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The ridiculous bickering sucks most of the joy out of Tiger hoops
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The ridiculous bickering sucks most of the joy out of Tiger hoops

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Dec 10, 2023, 10:47 PM

We are off to good start, currently pretty solid inside and out and have the funnest mop head to play college ball since that Adam dude from Gonzaga. I’m a longtime Tiger hoops fan, so I know it is far too early to make any wild-ash claims about how good we are. But we are fun to watch.
Yet neither side in this endless spew will shut the freak up and allow this basketball season to determine the future of Clemson basketball. And I am beyond sick of it.

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GoTiguhs!!


Re: The ridiculous bickering sucks most of the joy out of Tiger hoops

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Dec 10, 2023, 10:55 PM

I’ve followed for years( back to the seventies). Sometimes you just need to enjoy the ride.

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Tnet message boards aint real life

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Dec 10, 2023, 11:00 PM

No one outside of memaw’s basement feels anything but happiness about the start of the basketball season

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I have hoped we be good in basketball almost my whole life

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Dec 10, 2023, 11:11 PM

Cliff Ellis came close but we lost our best coach to Texas, it’s been a kiddy ride so far, sometimes we have a big hill at the beginning but never all the way through.

I will always pull for them to make a final four! Connecticut broke our hearts!

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We keep getting better & better everyday, in every way!
“The only disability is a bad Attitude” Dabo Swinney!!
Let’s Go Tigers!


Re: I have hoped we be good in basketball almost my whole life


Dec 11, 2023, 6:16 AM

I remember him being a big time Clemson man, and then leaving for the money.

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Dec 11, 2023, 6:18 AM

The Texas/ Tennessee guy I’m talking about. Not cliff Ellis. I’ve always liked coach Ellis.

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Rick Barnes wasnt a Clemson man.

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Dec 11, 2023, 7:45 AM [ in reply to Re: I have hoped we be good in basketball almost my whole life ]

He just acted like one for a while to get what he wanted out of us.

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Re: Rick Barnes wasnt a Clemson man.

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Dec 11, 2023, 7:49 AM

Wait. I thought our athletic department has refused to support basketball. How would that make him the guilty party based on, idk, roughly 25k of your 30k of your previous posts.

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Perhaps the loudest are just scared of another midway let down.

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Dec 11, 2023, 1:19 AM

We've started strong, no doubt.

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Certainly some truth there. I got excited last January and


Dec 11, 2023, 11:02 AM

we shat the bed so badly I hadda have a new mattress

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you have an answer, whether you actually wanted it or not


Dec 11, 2023, 5:30 AM

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/thread/stark-raving-brad---dear-jackorange-2315430?tstart=0




jackorange®

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You're a low life free-loader and

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Dec 11, 2023, 6:59 AM

Have zero right to pull the stunts you do here. The difference between you and Judge Keller® is he contributes to T-Net. You simply suck up bandwidth and harp on and on ad nauseum, while belittling folks. You can't be banned fast enough, yet, it's on Crump and B-Meist whether they value you...or the paying members who (supposedly) support this site's operations. Cross your fingers on their decision...and if you're still around when my next contribution is due, I'll walk.

I'm a Clemson fan...and enjoy banter with some of the members here. Most, I don't even acknowledge due to their tenor...legit members included. Life isn't about reinforcing one's misery with others, yet that seems the focus of you and others. Regretfully, social media has given voice to many who should not be heard and most definitely wouldn't express their views from anywhere other than from behind their keyboard.

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well, you clearly don't read what I write...


Dec 11, 2023, 7:37 AM

Because I provide facts before espousing any opinions. Facts, and then I ask those who want to discuss, or even argue, to do so.

You apparently are of the variety of Mountaineers, who believe that just because you have a different opinion, that means you can not only disparage but you get to also deny me access. That's rich given that you're in no way beholden to read a single word, and with the Ignore button available, you're in now way even required to see what I write.

You haven't even deigned to argue even one little fact that has been brought up. No, you simply just started denigrating.

You're quite the little Tyrant now, aren't you?

What you'll find is that I don't answer to you, nor care if you have pitched a fit like a child.

So..... have at it. But let me ask one question before you trundle off....

Were you a "Clemson fan" at any point during the last 13 years, or did you just sign on because the team is undefeated (good on them)? Lots of front-runners around here... not so many real "fans".

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Re: You're a low life free-loader and

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Dec 11, 2023, 7:51 AM [ in reply to You're a low life free-loader and ]

OleMike has posted about 1% of the volume as JK and whether disagreeable or not isn’t a blantant troll. There is no comparison between the two. JK should be a pariah on this board

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nah, don't worry about defending me... no one's home out there


Dec 11, 2023, 8:05 AM

they're all clams, with their nice little walled-in opinion safe-spaces and feedback loops.

It will never cease to amaze me though just how defensive they are about those opinions,

but generally simply too lazy? ignorant? politically-motivated? collusive? community-aware? to actually argue reality.

have a good'un.



viztiz®

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Dec 11, 2023, 12:09 PM [ in reply to Re: You're a low life free-loader and ]

I'm going to respectfully disagree with you. Anyone who wants our team to lose simply so they can bash the coach is an absolute troll. JK does it in football and OleMike does it in basketball. I see little to no difference. Maybe there is a volume difference in posts but the results are the same.

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Re: You're a low life free-loader and


Dec 11, 2023, 12:35 PM

Salty was saying Mike was worse to the point he should be banned. Keller trolls the board constantly. Mike makes his long post after each game. It’s a lot easier to ignore.

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Liars Lie and that's on you SLW Coot....


Dec 11, 2023, 12:56 PM [ in reply to Re: You're a low life free-loader and ]

you've never once heard me pull for the team to lose. If think you can find a quote where I say I hope they lose, you should go for it. And LOFL at you wasting 14 hours looking through post history, dude. LOFL.

I don't have to pull against them; anything I might do is pittance compared to the self-destruction that Brownell accomplishes. Even if he has a good team this year, he's still a Loser. Anyone not willing to recognize that is simply an enabler for an Athletic Department that apparently makes up its own rules now.

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I don't want our football team to lose.

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Dec 11, 2023, 1:35 PM [ in reply to Re: You're a low life free-loader and ]

You are ridiculous for saying something like that, simply because you don't like what I have to say.

My criticisms of our football program have been based on the fact that we have done less with more the last three years. This is largely because Dabo has hired unqualified coaches for most openings lately, and also hasn't taken advantage of the transfer portal. These are reasonable criticisms, which plenty of other Tiger fans have had.

In contrast, the griping and complaining about basketball on TNet is typically based on lies and half-truths. I don't care if people want a new coach, but the reasons should ideally consist of more than "we always underachieve under Brownell," "we always have a late season collapse," and other derp-worthy statements.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


if the Dude could Lie any better, he'd be the Devil himself***


Dec 11, 2023, 1:38 PM



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Yall are very similar indeed

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Dec 11, 2023, 2:04 PM [ in reply to I don't want our football team to lose. ]

Your “facts” are merely opinions with a bunch of statistics that you think support your opinions. Both of you.

JK - “My criticisms of our football program have been based on the fact that we have done less with more the last three years. This is largely because Dabo has hired unqualified coaches for most openings lately, and also hasn't taken advantage of the transfer portal.”

The facts stop at we have done less the last 3 years. The “with more” part and your description of why is pure opinion. Don’t bother responding with your usual star rating, etc justification because those are also just someone’s opinions and these star ratings are frequently wrong in both directions. But they are convenient stats that support your criticisms of Dabo. At least in your opinion.

Mike - quotes historical stats about Clemson basketball ad nauseam and always uses them to justify some criticism of Coach Brownell.

You are both masters of spin and never wrong (in your own opinions). And both of you promote negative agendas regarding Clemson coaches. JK is just a lot more passive aggressive and tries to be just vague enough to provide an exit strategy when called on it, and Mike is just aggressive in his approach. In the end you are both just petty and critical.

Very similar indeed.

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You should have been here during football season too.***


Dec 11, 2023, 8:40 AM



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I was, which is why the plaintiff cries of these children are so revolting.***


Dec 11, 2023, 8:44 AM



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Don't let the bastages get you down.

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Dec 11, 2023, 1:02 PM

Long-suffering hoops fans are enjoying every moment this season.

Go Tigers!

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Stop reading about it here then. Watch the games and read TNet articles about


Dec 11, 2023, 1:37 PM

the team. But if message board bickering is taking your joy out of ANYTHING, you should do yourself a favor and stop reading it.

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Re: Stop reading about it here then. Watch the games and read TNet articles about


Dec 11, 2023, 1:40 PM

joeyb® said:

the team. But if message board bickering is taking your joy out of ANYTHING, you should do yourself a favor and stop reading it.



Or block the offending posters

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