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TNET: Lesson Learned: Lack of focus, player issues led to Sugar Bowl loss
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TNET: Lesson Learned: Lack of focus, player issues led to Sugar Bowl loss


Dec 18, 2018, 1:21 PM

 
Lesson Learned: Lack of focus, player issues led to Sugar Bowl loss

New Orleans is known as a party city, and many Clemson players feel like last year’s Sugar Bowl loss to Alabama was a result of too much fun in the Big Easy, too many players putting themselves above the team, and not enough want to. Full Story »


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Re: TNET: Lesson Learned: Lack of focus, player issues led to Sugar Bowl loss

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Dec 18, 2018, 1:30 PM

True that!

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I knew it I knew it I knew it

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Dec 18, 2018, 4:05 PM

Last year they had a GREAT time in New Orleans. I wanted to hear about their preparation and practice and focus on the game, and instead it was all about the fun things they were doing. Fun fun fun.

I’ve been mad at Dabo ever since. I love him, I think he’s just the finest man, Clemson is so fortunate to have him.....but sometimes his instincts just aren’t killer enough. Fun times won’t beat Nick Saban on the football field. Dabo did not have the team ready to play Alabama.

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Dec 18, 2018, 4:40 PM

Get a life!

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Dec 18, 2018, 5:50 PM

When have you ever known Dabo to not have a great game plan, the loss to Bama was on the lack of the players, not the coaching staff.

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Dec 18, 2018, 6:47 PM

I respectfully disagree. I think that loss was on the coaches.

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Dec 18, 2018, 11:37 PM

you are correct. i recall hearing that stuff about having some fun and thinking it sounded more like Tommy West than Dabo. Dabo has always had the guys ready for post season; 'cept last year.

I want to hear more of how much work they are putting in and not what they might get to see or do in Dallas.

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Dec 19, 2018, 10:00 AM

The players can talk all they want about focus and whatnot. Clemson did no get beat because they partied. Anybody, anybody, who knows diddly about Dabo Swinney knows he would never let that happen. he didn't. They were ready. They got beat by a better team, they got beat because Clemson had second level wide receivers who would not compete for the ball and who frequently took the easy boundary route rather than the tough post routs, and we got beat because we had a QB too slow on his RPO reads taking away half of Clemson's offense, and then could not keep Alabama honest with deep throws.

In a large nutshell, that is it. Forget the rest of the mea culpas. Too many of us want to love our coach right up until we lose and then lecture him on what he did wrong. Clemson did as good as it was capable of doing. But those areas killed us.

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Dec 22, 2018, 11:22 AM

I don't believe they partied but there were a few who showed signs of a bad sugar crash after all the beignets and cafe au lait.

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Dec 23, 2018, 1:59 PM

Playing Alabama, you'd better be focused and it is amazing that we weren't. Now, can we learn from that and focus on a big, fast, talented Notre Dame team? If not, we'll go home early.

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Dec 18, 2018, 8:04 PM

They lost the game because Bama shut down the run and K B couldn't connect downfield

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Dec 23, 2018, 2:00 PM

I totally agree. KB was exposed---end of game.

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Dec 18, 2018, 1:34 PM

If confession is good for the soul, Notre Dame is in for a good public spanking.

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Well that and Alabama was just the better team.

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Dec 18, 2018, 1:36 PM

Last year's offense couldn't do squat against them.

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Re: Well that and Alabama was just the better team.

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Dec 18, 2018, 1:47 PM

If there was a gap, it wasn’t big. Remember, we beat Auburn and they didn’t. We came in as the #1 seed and our defense played well enough to win.

What it came down to is that their defense played better than our offense. Our offense looked unfocused and their defense looked mad about last year. KB was running for his life most of the night. Recievers dropped important catches. Just a poor effort from a lot of guys.

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Our offense looked like our offense always looked last year

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Dec 18, 2018, 1:50 PM

We basically had an LSU offense and it looked like a typical Bama-LSU game. We all know how those end.

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Re: Our offense looked like our offense always looked last year

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Dec 18, 2018, 2:06 PM

It was a rebuilding year for our offense and we were especially short handed when Tee Higgins got hurt, but I wouldn’t say we had an LSU offense. They were playing well at the end of the season.

We had a lot of opportunities to turn the game our way and the talent to do it, but we didn’t make plays.

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bingo***

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Dec 18, 2018, 3:32 PM



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Dec 23, 2018, 2:03 PM

We basically had a pretty good RB playing QB. Alabama shut down his running---end of game.

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Dec 22, 2018, 10:30 AM

Alabama likes to say they beat us badly last year. Truth is, their offense seemed only marginally better than ours. Our defense only gave up 10 points as I see it. The last 2 TDs were courtesy of our offense! But their defense won the game! They outplayed us.

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Actually what it came down to is


Dec 23, 2018, 2:57 PM

Their punter was better than our punter. We lost 10-15 yards of field position on each exchange. In a defensive battle, that was the deciding factor.

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Dec 18, 2018, 1:47 PM

If there was a gap, it wasn’t big. Remember, we beat Auburn and they didn’t. We came in as the #1 seed and our defense played well enough to win.

What it came down to is that their defense played better than our offense. Our offense looked unfocused and their defense looked mad about last year. KB was running for his life most of the night. Recievers dropped important catches. Just a poor effort from a lot of guys.

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Our offense looked like our offense always looked last year


Dec 18, 2018, 1:56 PM

We basically had an LSU offense and it looked like a typical Bama-LSU game. We all know how those end.

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Dec 23, 2018, 2:06 PM

In other words, they beat us. Game never in doubt. Domination.

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Dec 23, 2018, 3:09 PM

You didn't play them. You just got your usual curb stomping from UGA. I think they are scheduled to curb stomp your coots next year

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Re: Well that and Alabama was just the better team.

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Dec 18, 2018, 2:25 PM

Well, their offense couldn't seem to do squat against Clemson either...10-6 with less than 6 minutes left in the 3rd qtr...

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Right but they are much better at that style of football***


Dec 18, 2018, 2:42 PM



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Still was a winnable game

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Dec 18, 2018, 3:32 PM

Bama was only up 14-7 at the half in the 2016 game. Not surprised the defenses dominated early.

We had RRM wide open for an easy 6 on that first interception, but KB wasn’t given time to throw.

Next offensive play was a deflected pick-6 that Deon Cain should have caught.

It’s frustrating because 2017 was the closest thing Bama will ever have to a “rebuilding year” and we couldn’t capitalize.

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Dec 18, 2018, 2:07 PM

I'm sure everybody's first thoughts went to Cain and McCloud when "thinking about leaving early" was mentioned.

That may be true but remember Taylor Hearn also decided to leave early.

In my opinion an offensive lineman who is not prepared and not focused on the game can cause a lot larger of an issue than a WR or two.

Everyone discusses how our line just couldn't hold up and blocking was terrible. Many people have suggested that our o-line simply wasn't good enough. Maybe there was more to it than ability to block Bama.

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Dec 23, 2018, 2:13 PM

Okay, so what is your point? If our OL couldn't block them, what could they have done beyond that, cheer?? KB couldn't pose a down-field passing threat, so they load the LOS. End of game.

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Dec 23, 2018, 3:11 PM

I'm still confused. When exactly did YOU play them?

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Dec 18, 2018, 2:16 PM

Talk is cheap. Pollard and the O line need to prove they can block. O Line had juniors and seniors in NOLA. Clemson O line pushed was around like a wet mop by Bama.

Score could have ended at 10-6 were not for the pics - still a loss. O Line really needs to step up in Dallas, and hopefully, in Santa Clara.

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Dec 18, 2018, 2:19 PM

See my post just above yours. Hearn may have played a huge part in our looking lost up front. Cohesiveness is huge for an o-line.

I also find it odd that you remove 2 turnovers from our offense (one was at mid-field) and you automatically assume that no more points would have been scored on our part.

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Dec 23, 2018, 2:20 PM

I've seen several regarding our inability (or unwillingness) to recruit top offensive linemen. It seems that we just don't get the 5 (or even 4-star) guys guys there, although given our current recruiting class this may be changing----Putnam!! Our current class ranked in the top five in the nation! Hats off to our coaching staff. I'll gladly take this.

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Dec 18, 2018, 2:34 PM

Same issue as 2015. Kearse and TJ Green if I recall correctly, and maybe others.

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Thats exactly who I was thinking and who you compared them too***


Dec 18, 2018, 2:39 PM



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There is 1 player you can see trailing behind on every Bama

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Dec 18, 2018, 2:59 PM

TD. Just saying.

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Dec 18, 2018, 3:35 PM

Secondary looked lost without Mackenzie Alexander.

Then there is dumb luck. Calvin Ridley completely whiffed when trying to block Baker only to throw a perfect block on Kearse.

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Dec 23, 2018, 2:38 PM

We have top WR's in this class.

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I remember that narrative that we all embraced how much

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Dec 18, 2018, 4:19 PM

more fun our players had compared to Bama. We declared our way superior.

Ooops. ;)

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Dec 23, 2018, 2:26 PM

Yeah, and you don't go to these games to have "fun." Hope this has sunk in with our players.

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So you get all the way to the playoffs, busting your butt to get there

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Dec 18, 2018, 4:26 PM

and you have a ‘lack of ‘focus’?

It’s times like these that I have to remind myself that these are 18-21 year old young men. That and a few deep cleansing breaths.

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Grown men often throw away years of work..


Dec 18, 2018, 4:28 PM

with a single bad decision too.

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Not if your’re dead...solid....perfect. ??***


Dec 18, 2018, 4:33 PM



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Re: So you get all the way to the playoffs, busting your butt to get there


Dec 23, 2018, 2:31 PM

Oh gee. And how old are the Notre Dame and Alabama players?? If you guessed 18-20, you guessed right. So have they been drinking a "maturity" potion not available to our players?? I think not. If I'm wrong, please let me know. So, the point??

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TNET puts a photo of Cain with this article.

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Dec 18, 2018, 4:34 PM

Subtle!

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Dec 18, 2018, 4:39 PM

Only one person is making $millions in the Clemson organization. I hope Dabo is putting this out that his team wasn't prepared. Buck stops with the head coach. The kids are talented unpaid athelete making millions for Clemson and the coaching staff.. Wouldn't fault them to thinking ahead to what is potentially possible for them and their family.

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you tell them


Dec 20, 2018, 1:40 PM

coot

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Dec 23, 2018, 2:36 PM

And how would they reap these millions without first proving themselves in college football?? Players at an elite program like Clemson are given an all-expense-paid opportunity to showcase themselves to the NFL. Have you seen the facilities they have available, the food, the weight training?? Hello?

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Is this photoshop? Cain actaully catching a pass in that ga

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Dec 18, 2018, 4:40 PM

me?

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These sound like excuses. We just got whipped.***

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Dec 18, 2018, 6:34 PM



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With our personnel last year it would have taken a focused performance by our team to win


Dec 23, 2018, 2:47 PM

They obviously didn’t get that. We will never know if it would have been enough but it’s nice to know our guys have learned from it. Imagine what this year’s team can do with a focused approach!

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Let's hope so. ND will be a tough out.***


Dec 23, 2018, 3:13 PM



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