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Ring of Honor [22001]
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For all of you that think kids transferring out isn’t an issue
Dec 11, 2021, 8:12 PM
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because most were not starting or going to contribute much anywhere…
They do contribute. To depth. Every single one of them. And right now we are getting extremely thin at multiple positions.
So, yes, they do matter even if they didn’t see the field a significant amount. We all saw this season what injuries and other issues can cause if you don’t have depth.
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Ring of Honor [22331]
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It hurts some, but the guys transferring were
Dec 11, 2021, 8:16 PM
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3rd-4th string. Not having 24 scholarship players available by game 12 is what killed our depth this year. That type of injury situation is not likely to repeat.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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simple math.......
Dec 11, 2021, 8:20 PM
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-60ish currently on scholarship (i don't know if that counts the last couple of transfers or not)
-Sign a class of 13-15ish this year b/c Dabo doesn't oversign
-Left with 10-12ish available schollies to fill between now and next Fall
Dabo has 3 options:
-offer a late schollie to a fallback or what many like to call "diamonds in the rough"
-hand out walk-ons to the incoming Daniel High class
-Dip into the transfer portal (not doing it is the reason we're in this position to begin with)
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Ring of Honor [22331]
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Pretty sure we'll see some February signings
Dec 11, 2021, 8:37 PM
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Pretty sure we'll see some portal in
Pretty sure we'll see a few walk ons get a scholarship
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Asst Coach [817]
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Re: Pretty sure we'll see some February signings
Dec 11, 2021, 8:39 PM
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Sometimes the walk-ons get them because somebody has to. You have to use all 85 scholarships in the Fall in order to use the mid-year replacement rule.
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Ring of Honor [22331]
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Many times they've earned them as well
Dec 11, 2021, 8:47 PM
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and I'm not just talking about the Renfrow's or soon to be Will Taylor's or Hunter Helms.
Our long snapper never had a truly bad snap.
Swinney never botched a hold in 66 games.
Will Speirs punted for 66 games.
Will Brown certainly earned his this year
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Asst Coach [817]
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Taylor was on scholarship from the start
Dec 14, 2021, 3:19 PM
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We would have used his baseball scholarship, but they have a rule to keep schools from counting football players against other sports. We've got enough margin to add Wiles to the scholarship instead of waiting another year. (Still the rule: walk-on who is on team 2 years can be added without being an initial counter?)
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Asst Coach [817]
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It might be a huge class like in 2019
Dec 11, 2021, 8:38 PM
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29 that year, at least 10 of which are off the team for one reason or another. The small classes and back-counting of Jan enrollees gives a lot of margin with the initial counter limit of 25. The transfers are using the blue-shirt loophole, which needs to stop.
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Asst Coach [817]
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I just read about the one-year waiver to add 7 replacements
Dec 14, 2021, 2:50 PM
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of transfer players. We don't need it because the 12 or so early enrollees will count against 2021. We have room under the regular initial counter limits for 18 mid-year replacements because only 7 of the 2021 signees count for that year. We've had over half of each class since 2018 count against the previous class, even the class of 29 in 2019.
This was setting up to be an advantage for teams with better retention and smaller signing classes, then they changed the rules.
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Re: For all of you that think kids transferring out isn’t an issue
Dec 11, 2021, 8:35 PM
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Everything matters in life dude…even this post…just some things more than others…it’s gonna be okay sir!!!
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Dynasty Maker [3459]
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Looked like Tarzan
Dec 11, 2021, 8:41 PM
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Played like injured Jane
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Paw Warrior [5074]
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Re: For all of you that think kids transferring out isn’t an issue
Dec 11, 2021, 8:43 PM
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Depth does matter, but someone like Ajou was simply not going to play anytime soon. If he barely played this year with all the injuries we had then how likely is it he’ll play next year with so many guys back and 2-3 incoming freshman? I do think the portal sucks, but it’s not like Clemson is unique when it comes to losing guys to the portal.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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of course they're not unique losing to the portal.......
Dec 11, 2021, 8:50 PM
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they sure as h3LL are unique when it comes to BRINGING in from the portal.
-130 FBS teams around the country
-127 FBS teams have utilized the portal
-Air Force, Army, & Clemson HAVE YET to use it........and you can understand the military academies.
this is why we're in the situation we're in numbers wise.
I'm just waiting to hear somebody say....."it's all good, we only need 11 for defense and 11 for offense"
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CU Guru [1573]
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Re: of course they're not unique losing to the portal.......
Dec 11, 2021, 8:56 PM
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they sure as h3LL are unique when it comes to BRINGING in from the portal.
-130 FBS teams around the country
-127 FBS teams have utilized the portal
-Air Force, Army, & Clemson HAVE YET to use it........and you can understand the military academies.
this is why we're in the situation we're in numbers wise.
I'm just waiting to hear somebody say....."it's all good, we only need 11 for defense and 11 for offense"
they sure as h3LL are unique when it comes to BRINGING in from the portal.
-130 FBS teams around the country
-127 FBS teams have utilized the portal
-Air Force, Army, & Clemson HAVE YET to use it........and you can understand the military academies.
this is why we're in the situation we're in numbers wise.
I'm just waiting to hear somebody say....."it's all good, we only need 11 for defense and 11 for offense"
Well, that is true, sir. In technical terms, you only need 22 to fill out a roster.
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They will take some from the portal
Dec 14, 2021, 3:12 PM
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I just don't see a lot of good options past the UVa OL for now. Get a couple from the portal, then sign more 3* high-schoolers like in 2019. Take a look in the middle to bottom of the 2019 list - at least 4 starters we wouldn't have in a typical small class: Davis Allen, Landen Zanders, Ruke Orhorhoro, Mason Trotter.
There will be more guys after spring practice who transfer out and more available in the portal. Have to get to 85 one way or another.
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Game Changer [1999]
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In my day, we played both ways
Dec 14, 2021, 3:12 PM
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17 or 18 players was a gracious plenty.
With all the players we have these days, we would give the Fordham Seven Blocks of Granite or Alonzo Stagg’s University of Chicago teams all they could handle.
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Re: For all of you that think kids transferring out isn’t an issue
Dec 14, 2021, 3:19 PM
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It'not. Dabo planned for everthing.
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