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Game Changer [1724]
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I had a Bible study at my house and Malliciah Goodman came..
Jun 19, 2012, 9:26 PM
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I'm sure a college student has alot of fun options but the fact that he chose a bible study shows the type of guys we try to recruit. He is very humble and loves God. I'm proud to know him! Clemson is lucky to have Mr. Goodman and he is a GOOD-MAN.
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Re: I had a Bible study at my house and Malliciah Goodman came..
Jun 19, 2012, 9:36 PM
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That's great to hear. No doubt that Tommy Bowden and now Dabo put a premium on high character recruits.
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Orange Blooded [4506]
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Thanks for sharing. Tremendous to see the character and
Jun 19, 2012, 9:39 PM
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committment of these young men and our coaching staff.
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Commissioner [1273]
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Great to hear !!!
Jun 19, 2012, 9:42 PM
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Thanks for filling us in.
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Scout Team [175]
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All In for All of the Right Reasons
Jun 19, 2012, 9:49 PM
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Malliciah is hands down one of my favorite players on the team. He is one of the most polite guys you'll ever meet. I lived in Lightsey at the same time as him a couple of years ago. He had no problem meeting my family one weekend when they came to visit.
His character and faith make him one heck of a role model. Funny thing is that I'm seeing more and more players like him coming into the program.
The affect these quality recruits have on the field lasts for four years.
Their effect off of the field lasts much, much longer.
I'm glad that Dabo is building a good football program on the field, but I'm even more excited about where he is leading the character of the program.
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All-American [598]
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Re: All In for All of the Right Reasons
Jun 19, 2012, 10:02 PM
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Just had one of the new O-lineman at church..... great kid and is excited about the upcoming season
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Varsity [104]
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Was he delivering the pizza?
Jun 19, 2012, 10:02 PM
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102411]
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Oh no, you didn't.***
Jun 19, 2012, 10:11 PM
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Yes I did!***
Jun 20, 2012, 3:22 PM
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Connoisseur [374]
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Did you ask him his stance on dinosaurs?***
Jun 19, 2012, 10:12 PM
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CU Medallion [20212]
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Does he really have to have one?
Jun 19, 2012, 10:20 PM
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Mine though, shoot on sight.
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Varsity [104]
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Well, considering dinosaurs existed before time began
Jun 20, 2012, 10:17 AM
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(according to Christians) I think it's pretty critical to have a stance on said subject.
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CU Medallion [18213]
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You're painting Christians with a very narrow brush.
Jun 20, 2012, 10:45 AM
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It's funny how a select theology can be applied to all of christendom.
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Varsity [104]
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Whoa whoa whoa. Am I painting with a broad brush
Jun 20, 2012, 10:53 AM
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or a narrow brush? You Christians need to get your act together and paint me appropriately.
PS: my main purpose of posting in this thread is to point out the fallacy that "Christians are good people." I find it funny that the OP assumes Goodman is a good man b/c he's a Christian and we all know that "being" a Christian does NOT mean you're a good person.
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CU Medallion [18213]
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Actually, I am an ex-pastor of 20+ years. I'm doing
Jun 20, 2012, 11:03 AM
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other things now. And yes, you are attempting to define a very large and diverse group of people in very narrow terms. Now, why don't you take this to the politics and religion board if you want to have this kind of debate? Peace out.
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Tiger Titan [49905]
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Or, I can just throw some snakes at him.....
Jun 20, 2012, 11:11 AM
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...I find their reaction is pretty consistent, regardless of denomination.
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CU Medallion [18213]
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You can catch a few copperheads around my place.
Jun 20, 2012, 11:14 AM
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You can have as many as you can round up, too.
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Varsity [104]
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Why haven't you told the OP to take it to the religion
Jun 20, 2012, 11:14 AM
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and politics board? Are you trying to stifle me?
That's very un-Christian-like of you.
But I forgive you just the same.
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CU Medallion [18213]
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Re: Why haven't you told the OP to take it to the religion
Jun 20, 2012, 11:15 AM
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Because he wasn't trying to flame. You strike me as a guy who isn't as dumb as you let on; just a SA trying to stir up trouble.
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CU Medallion [19353]
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Re: Why haven't you told the OP to take it to the religion
Jun 20, 2012, 11:18 AM
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exactly what he is.
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Varsity [104]
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I'm a SA and you're a DumbA.
Jun 20, 2012, 11:22 AM
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OK. I'll go with that.
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CU Medallion [19353]
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Re: I'm a SA and you're a DumbA.
Jun 20, 2012, 11:23 AM
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Someone got their feelings hurt.
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Varsity [104]
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But he did make a religious post in a football board.
Jun 20, 2012, 11:20 AM
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So I'm a smart ### b/c you don't like what I'm saying?
Then based on that idea, I think the OP is a SA. I'm sure you don't b/c that would require you to see both sides of the argument.
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CU Medallion [18213]
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Re: But he did make a religious post in a football board.
Jun 20, 2012, 11:24 AM
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Son, the rules of debate are not very strong with you. No, you're not a SA because I disagree with anything you say. The SA part comes in where you twist things other people post just to cause trouble. I'm giving you credit for being smart enough to follow that logic, but I'm beginning to wonder.
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Varsity [104]
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Typical of a so-called "Christian" the non-name-calling
Jun 20, 2012, 11:32 AM
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name-calling.
If you believe in he!! it's gonna suck when you realize you're there with so many just like you.
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TigerNet Legend [147167]
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Check reasons.org???
Jun 20, 2012, 10:23 AM
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That's like telling a dumbocrat that doesn't believe in conservative views to check Fox News.
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Rival Killer [2768]
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This is not really necessary.
Jun 20, 2012, 9:00 PM
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Sure, there are a ton of Christians that make Christianity look horrible, but the majority of them that I know think the Earth is approximately 7 billion years old. There are also a ton of Atheists that make Atheism look terrible. Those types of people, who attack people's beliefs or non-beliefs, or who make snarky remarks such as this, do nothing to set a good example of whatever they believe or do not believe in. As for Goodman, I'm glad he was attending Bible study instead of a kegger and I am glad his personal convictions are so strong that they would have him do something so boring, when he obviously has the opportunities to do much more fun and selfish things.
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Game Changer [1663]
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110%er [7971]
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Thanks for sharing, I think it's great when any young person
Jun 19, 2012, 10:42 PM
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shows their faith in this day and age. I find it disgusting that many on here choose to make a joke of it or that someone would TD your post. I may get TD's for this post, but I'm not ashamed to speak out for my beliefs.
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110%er [3966]
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Many? A couple maybe.
Jun 19, 2012, 10:47 PM
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Most were positive in their response.
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Game Changer [2083]
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and you're painting with an awfully broad brush
Jun 20, 2012, 10:23 AM
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that's mighty douchey of you....
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Varsity [104]
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Broad brush? I only commented on 1 person and
Jun 20, 2012, 10:24 AM
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2 things that that person stated. It's a very compact argument I make and not a broad stroked one at all.
Your name-calling is very Christian.
Thank you,
CBS
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CU Medallion [19353]
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Re: Broad brush? I only commented on 1 person and
Jun 20, 2012, 10:28 AM
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You do know in this thread you are doing the very thing that most of the anti religion people accuse religious people of doing right?
This is coming from a not very religious person.
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Varsity [104]
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I just asked what his stance is on dinosaurs.
Jun 20, 2012, 10:50 AM
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I think its a valid question for Christians. I'm a Christian. Was born/raised a Christian. But I have to wonder, how do we explain things found that we dated to a time before the Christian's start of the world?
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CU Medallion [19353]
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Re: I just asked what his stance is on dinosaurs.
Jun 20, 2012, 10:56 AM
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Yes your "spaghetti monster bless you" post def screams that you are a christian.
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Varsity [104]
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I was a Christian, before I started gathering facts and
Jun 20, 2012, 11:17 AM
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reading stories about Jim Baker and the Catholic priests ###### young boys and Westboro Baptist Church.
Given the likes of those people, I choose NOT to associate myself with them.
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CU Medallion [19353]
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Re: I was a Christian, before I started gathering facts and
Jun 20, 2012, 11:19 AM
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lol So I guess you are now associated with people who burn down churches.
I mean if we are going to associate millions with the actions of a few that makes sense.
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CU Medallion [19353]
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Re: I was a Christian, before I started gathering facts and
Jun 20, 2012, 11:21 AM
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btw thanks for manning up and admitting your previous post was full of #### where you said you were a Christian.
If you are going to troll and be a ###### bag outspoken anti religious zealot who throws his ideas at others just as bad as any bible thumper at least have the balls to be honest about what you are.
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Varsity [104]
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dummies like you drive people from Christianity.
Jun 20, 2012, 11:23 AM
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Now, shouldn't you be suckering people out of their life savings or ###### little boys? that's what you Christians do.
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CU Medallion [19353]
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Re: dummies like you drive people from Christianity.
Jun 20, 2012, 11:26 AM
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Not a Christian buddy.
Haven't attended church in a decade.
I would describe myself as more agnostic than anything else.
I also believe that people who push their beliefs on others or attack others because of their believes are ###### bags.
Let people believe what they want how is it hurting you?
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It's not hurting me. I just pointed out that its wrong
Jun 20, 2012, 11:34 AM
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to say someone's a good man b/c they're a "Christian" when so many "Christians" are responsible for so much pain and suffering in this world.
and it is the OP trying to promote the "Christian" way with his original post.
OP, keep religion off the main board and on the R/P board.
That's all this is about. The banter with y'all is just nonsense to get both sides stirred up.
Now, about those dinosaurs, OP?
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Follower [285]
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dinosaurs
Jun 20, 2012, 12:53 PM
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The Bible is not incompatible with dinosaurs. Some Christians believe in a young earth. I personally disagree with this view. I believe the earth is 4 billion years old, and I find the Bible consistent with that view.
You asked about dinosaurs. So if you're serious, I heartily recommend again that you spend five minutes on reasons.org. Search dinosaurs, and then measure and judge the evidence presented.
If you're asking a serious question, it's worth five minutes of your time. If you're being a doooosh, then it won't matter what the OP says.
Also, if child rape is really your reason for abandoning Christianity, do you also support the elimination of public schools? Children are more likely to be sexually abused in public schools.
To be clear, everyone should be repulsed by the church abuse scandals. But it is an irrational response to reject your prior belief in God because of the despicable actions of priests. Atheists / agnostics preach rationalism -- so I tell you, your decision to leave the faith for that reason is not rational.
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I don't care what you or anyone else thinks about religion.
Jun 20, 2012, 3:14 PM
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It's your own view and you're entitled to it. I just don't want to read the type of stuff in the OP here on the football board.
There's a politics and religion board for posts like this.
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Follower [285]
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then why take the time to throw a dart
Jun 20, 2012, 3:46 PM
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about dinosaurs?
or post anything at all on this thread?
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Varsity [104]
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To ruin it so people don't start religious threads in the
Jun 20, 2012, 4:16 PM
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Varsity [104]
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But it is about a player ON THE FOOTBALL TEAM
Jun 20, 2012, 5:15 PM
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If he had said he had a pampered chef party at his house and Goodman came and continued on and on about how good of a person he was to come to that to support his or his wife's hobby of selling cookware, would you still be pushing this to go to some other forum? I think we all know the answer to that. You wouldn't have cared if it was about that and wouldn't be preaching (pardon the term here) about how this doesn't belong on the main board.
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Paw Warrior [4867]
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Re: But it is about a player ON THE FOOTBALL TEAM
Jun 20, 2012, 7:37 PM
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It's pretty obvious that the only reason that he said that he was a good man is because he's Christian. In your example, his actions would have said a lot about his character.
Simply being a Christian doesn't make one a good person. After all, roughly 90% of prisoners are Christian.
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If he came on here talking about pampered chef,
Jun 20, 2012, 10:26 PM
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I'd ask him to take it completely off of tnet and then I would petition for his permanent removal from this site.
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Ring of Honor [22313]
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I don't recall calling anyone elses beliefs disgusting, or
Jun 20, 2012, 10:29 AM
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stating that I don't believe dinosaurs existed. What I said was making fun of someones beliefs is disgusting, please check your facts before you question my Christianity.
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Spaghetti Monster Bless You.***
Jun 20, 2012, 10:41 AM
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CU Guru [1898]
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Good News To
Jun 20, 2012, 12:01 AM
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hear. Hope some media type will tell of the faith and priorities of this young man. I doubt that will happen though - they want the scandals.
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MVP [503]
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Re: I had a Bible study at my house and Malliciah Goodman came..
Jun 20, 2012, 8:39 AM
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I heard him give his testimony at the Shrine Bowl FCA breakfast 2 years ago in front of all the players (including Clowney). Got to talk to him before the breakfast. Great young man! Glad he's a Tiger...even more glad he's a brother in Christ!
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Re: I had a Bible study at my house and Malliciah Goodman came..
Jun 20, 2012, 8:55 AM
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Along those same lines...The AJC reported that our empahasis on christian student athletes was one of the deciding factors for RN choosing us.
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and may also be the reason for getting crucified in bowl
Jun 20, 2012, 3:47 PM
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games.
wut?
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Amateur [36]
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That's awesome
Jun 20, 2012, 12:09 PM
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To hear of players with a commitment to Christ, before football. Good deal tigers.
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Re: That's awesome
Jun 20, 2012, 4:55 PM
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Yeah, because there is a real shortage of Christian athletes in this day and age.
These types of threads should be in the PnR Bored.
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Great! Good good for him and whole bunch....
Jun 20, 2012, 4:01 PM
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I've read several reply posts about this topic. While it might need to go in another board I think there is some misunderstanding about Christianity. Christians should not think they are better than anyone but should be humble servants of Christ. Remember Christians are drawn to Christ because they recognize they are sinners and NOT PERFECT (not the other way around) and therefore need a Savior who can save them from eternal separation from a perfect GOD (also called Hell).
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Clemson Icon [24064]
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I salute for having the Bible study in your hame.
Jun 20, 2012, 7:43 PM
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It's just an added extra "blessing" that a football player that has 1000 other things to do, placed this at the top of his list.
I guess your screen has 2 meanings.
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Re: I was a Christian, before I started gathering facts and
Jun 20, 2012, 8:30 PM
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Now that's a good reason not to be a Christian.
I'm not a holy roller, but I remember saying to my grandfather before he died "why do you give 10% of YOUR money to the Church just so the pastor can have a free house and use it to buy a new Lincoln?"
He simply told me that he has complete faith in God an that he was doing his part to support the Church. You can't worry what other people do as long as you have faith.
As I mentioned before, I'm not a huge Christian, but to stop being one because of little boys getting raped and Jim Baker be a loser is just plain non sense.
There's been plenty of drug addicts, murderers and criminals in general that we're Clemson fans. So tell me, are you going to stop associating yourself with us? And stop being a tiger fan?
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Game Changer [1663]
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Re: I had a Bible study at my house and Malliciah Goodman came..
Jun 20, 2012, 10:23 PM
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Luck had nothing to do with it. If you are a Christian then you know it was God intervening and nothing by chance or luck happens to Christians.
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