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Clemson Conqueror [11464]
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The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 3, 2022, 11:20 PM
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If it's not obvious that the SEC money/media has created massive separation, you didn't watch games today or the last 12 National Championships.
Right now, Clemson is getting left behind. Sure - Clemson has done a great job of hanging in there, but that's going to run out soon (SEC schools are making double what Clemson is getting paid, and soon it'll be way more than that). The PAC-12 fell behind long ago, any hope of the Big12 is going to the SEC, there's not a single ACC school trending up [unless they were at the bottom of the barrel and had no where else to go], and the Big10 is just doing enough to hang on... but that fight is unwinnable. There's still going to be a large delta.
Premier College football is owned by the SEC, and if you aren't already hooked into that train, you've already fallen behind. The longer you wait to get linked to the SEC, the further behind you'll fall.
I hate to say this, but if we don't act fast, we may soon find ourselves amongst VT, FSU, UNC, NC State, and other schools that have trashed their potential.
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You can thank President Clements for that
Sep 3, 2022, 11:24 PM
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By signing that awful Grant of Right, Clemson is stuck in the sinking ship.....er I mean the ACC til 2036. No there is no act. We are stuck!
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Orange Phenom [14602]
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####...Everyone thought it was a great thing
Sep 3, 2022, 11:30 PM
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at the time to stop the conference from getting raided. It is what it is now.
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Game Changer [1830]
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That's only because that's the way it was...
Sep 4, 2022, 1:09 AM
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spun to the media and lazily dispersed by the media. Only the very initiated who read the document, projected the revenue figures and compared them with the other 3(4) conferences would have noticed that although there would be revenue increases, the rate of increase would not match the other conferences. The disparity in revenue would increase.
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Re: That's only because that's the way it was...
Sep 4, 2022, 6:12 AM
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This is why I believe ESPN intentionally pigeonholed the ACC to further elevate the SEC.
Bc when JOs like Paul Finebaum speak, it’s to further that agenda. When he called our fan base schizophrenic, it was just further gaslighting. What scumbags love is pulling ones over on the gullibles.
And the scumbags took over college football so it will only get worse until it is unwatchable.
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Re: That's only because that's the way it was...
Sep 4, 2022, 7:10 AM
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Orange Elite [5125]
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110%er [6166]
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Clements is the only Clemson President to really care about
Sep 4, 2022, 9:49 AM
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Tiger Football since RC Edwards.
The results have been apparent to anyone paying attention.
That’s just a fact.
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Valley Protector [1488]
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 3, 2022, 11:30 PM
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Who cares. They are moving the playoffs to 12 teams. The SEC can do what they want. Take care of your team and don’t worry about other teams in the conference. They will beat themselves up and have a bunch of 3-5 loss teams stuck in the middle. Making money but no trophies to show.
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Clemson Conqueror [11464]
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 3, 2022, 11:35 PM
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Look at the delta in revenue and tell me how losing the first round playoff game will help us to compete.
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Game Changer [2023]
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 3, 2022, 11:31 PM
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I refuse to spend any more time worrying about something over which I have no control. My thoughts are on this season with hopes of seeing the Tigers once again excelling on the field.
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Clemson Conqueror [11464]
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 3, 2022, 11:34 PM
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Win the battle, lose the war. Good call.
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 4, 2022, 12:01 AM
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Control what you can--right now, that's on the field. Enjoy the season.
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Oculus Spirit [39224]
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 4, 2022, 7:48 AM
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I refuse to spend any more time worrying about something over which I have no control. My thoughts are on this season with hopes of seeing the Tigers once again excelling on the field.
Yessir. Correct
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Playmaker [373]
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 3, 2022, 11:31 PM
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Ah still stuck with that Tommy West positivity. Good to hear from you Archie Bunker.
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Orange Blooded [4083]
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We haven’t played yet, but we are already doomed?
Sep 3, 2022, 11:34 PM
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Is Brad now our football coach, too?
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 4, 2022, 12:08 AM
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Don't you worry, Clemson will be in the SEC soon enough. It's coming.
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Orange Immortal [65737]
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I have faith that Dabo, Neff, Clements, and the BOT won't
Sep 4, 2022, 12:13 AM
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stand by and watch as the ship sinks. I'm sure that's true of most schools capable of competing at our level. I don't givadam what kind of contract we signed, Clemson and the rest of college football won't let it happen that way. Sure, we will get to a point where some teams simply won't be able to keep up, and they will accept it and compete at a lower level as the landscape shifts and as the college football world changes. Having said that, I don't know if the SEC and it's member schools would want to be part of a college football league that only consisted of 20 teams. Dabo himself has said that college football would look very different in a few years, that we would have a new governing body, and that he felt we were headed for a complete blowup in which it the bigger power 5 schools, say 50 or so teams, would be in a division of their own. There is no reason that Clemson shouldn't or won't be included.
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Tiger Titan [50797]
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I thought you were joking at first.
Sep 4, 2022, 7:15 AM
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Then I read your long, whiny, negative post and realized that you are being sincere.
Dude, relax! We will be fine.
Deep breaths.
Yes, we need to address the revenue gap. But as most everyone here has said when I talk about money and our basketball program, it doesn’t matter. What matters is having the right coach to motivate and inspire players. I believe Dabo is that guy. Don’t you?
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Orange Immortal [63561]
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Re: I thought you were joking at first.
Sep 4, 2022, 9:21 AM
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Yes, you are correct on both accounts. And coaching does matter. Because it's coaches that recruit. What Marine said is spot on. He used yesterday as an anology, that's all... Not that yesterday proved anything on just one gameday. It's been evolving as Marine stated over the past 15 years.
It's never been a secret - follow the Jimmy and Joes in ANY sport. Bobby Bowden philosophically changed college football. There were others (west coast teams) that tried to emulate but they didn't have the j & j's. B1G was slow to change and it cost them. OSU adapted but only now they have the Jimmy and Joes at your specialist positions QB/WR.
So it's not ALL of the SEC, but simply follow the Jimmy and Joes of ANY sport. Who's responsible for that, the coach is, and it takes coaching to meld the j & j's into a functional team.
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Tiger Titan [48499]
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Lol this is great.
Sep 4, 2022, 7:29 AM
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You’ve seen some ACC teams lose or struggle against poor competition in week 1. You’ve seen the SEC win most of their week 1 games.
Then you rant about the same stuff people have been saying for the past 10+ years.
Enjoy rooting for Mississippi State or whoever your team is.
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 4, 2022, 7:52 AM
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It would seem your sky is falling
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 4, 2022, 8:22 AM
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Us as a fan base should start a Go Fund me page for the GOR $.
I’ll donate to the cause for sure!
Go Tigers!?????
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I’m not sure how all this will go down, but Clemson won’t just roll over.
Sep 4, 2022, 8:41 AM
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Keep beating good teams and the rest will take care of itself.
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Dynasty Maker [3350]
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Re: I’m not sure how all this will go down, but Clemson won’t just roll over.
Sep 4, 2022, 9:17 AM
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I get the sentiment but why praise the SEC so much? The BIG TV deal is better.
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Head Coach [984]
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 4, 2022, 9:17 AM
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Serenity Prayer.
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Clemson Conqueror [11464]
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Re: I'm surprised to see this from you, M1C.
Sep 4, 2022, 11:24 AM
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Just a recognition we're at a decision point, and 'no decision' is a decision. I'd hate to see Clemson get left behind.
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 4, 2022, 8:58 PM
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Well, it is not like this a new thing. Clemson had little hope in 1970,1975,2000, 2005,or 2010 either.
And yet since 1975, among big bad SEC teams only Bama has more Nattys than little ole,broke,4th ranked Clemson.
What Clemson has is an abundance of chicken little,no hope fans.
Go Tigers!!
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110%er [3821]
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What???
Sep 4, 2022, 10:43 PM
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FSU is saying “What???”
Did you even watch Norvell last year???
When the SEC actually plays the ACC in week one, what’s happening?
You know when you have that need to post? Don’t. Resist!
With the exception of VTech, the ACC you’re hating on took care of business in week one.
Were some victories tight? Yes. But tell me who lost against their cupcakes this week? I’ll hang up and listen.
It’s football, chief. You have no control over any of it. Sit back, enjoy, and ####. Really.
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 4, 2022, 11:11 PM
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If it's not obvious that the SEC money/media has created massive separation, you didn't watch games today or the last 12 National Championships.
Right now, Clemson is getting left behind. Sure - Clemson has done a great job of hanging in there, but that's going to run out soon (SEC schools are making double what Clemson is getting paid, and soon it'll be way more than that). The PAC-12 fell behind long ago, any hope of the Big12 is going to the SEC, there's not a single ACC school trending up [unless they were at the bottom of the barrel and had no where else to go], and the Big10 is just doing enough to hang on... but that fight is unwinnable. There's still going to be a large delta.
Premier College football is owned by the SEC, and if you aren't already hooked into that train, you've already fallen behind. The longer you wait to get linked to the SEC, the further behind you'll fall.
I hate to say this, but if we don't act fast, we may soon find ourselves amongst VT, FSU, UNC, NC State, and other schools that have trashed their potential.
At first I thought this post was an intentional joke. But maybe not. Where have you been this past three months MarineOneClemson® as this subject has been fileted, baked and stir fried? Anyway, if ESPN believes Clemson can help create additional viewers and revenue for the SEC, then ESPN will find a a way to overcome the ACC GOR, and the SEC will extend an invitation. And yes, accepting the length of the ESPN/ACC TV contract and the ACC GOR force play was gross negligence. Those who say the future could not be predicted should look at the SEC, B1G, BIG 12 and other conferences in more favorable contract situations.
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 5, 2022, 8:36 AM
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Exhibit A: LSU
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
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Re: The SEC is so far ahead that Clemson has little hope in its future
Sep 5, 2022, 10:06 AM
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Bump for the a.m. crowd. Drunk poasting is a bad idea, btw.
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