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Clemson Conqueror [11637]
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DOGE must be stopped - uncovered yet another Fed agency for outrageous fraud
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May 2, 2025, 11:30 AM
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This time, it is the US Institute of Peace that DOGE has exposed.
It keeps getting easier and easier to figure out which Americans (I.e., people that we don’t personally know) work for NGOs, the Federal Government, colleges, and various entities that get much of their funding from the govt and NGOs.
They are the ones that hate DOGE and Trump the most.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/05/bombshell-doge-staffer-reveals-u-s-institute-peace/
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Clemson Conqueror [11637]
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Re: Inside the Trump family's 100 days of presidential profit
May 2, 2025, 1:02 PM
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I don’t do Apple News, not suggesting that it’s not legit, I just don’t want the spam that will come from subscribing.
Would you be so kind as to summarize the article?
Feel free to emphasize the most famous dam-ming aspects.
Thanks.
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Paw Master [17331]
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The Libs of Tnet will be burning Teslas all weekend over this.***
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May 2, 2025, 1:05 PM
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Re: DOGE must be stopped - uncovered yet another Fed agency for outrageous fraud
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May 2, 2025, 1:11 PM
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Once again when the left wing trash don't like the OP they attempt to detail the thread. Whats next, gonna hold your breath? Grow up moron.
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"DOGE staffer"
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May 2, 2025, 1:33 PM
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So a 23 year old kid who has no idea how the government works or what the function of global outreach and humanitarian programs are in building and maintaining "soft power" across the planet.
Keep in mind that exactly zero proof of anything this unnamed staffer has claimed exists, it's just things he's telling Jesse Waters. Musk and his team of former cybercriminals have spent months exaggerating or outright lying about what they're finding, but suddenly, THIS is all 100% true? This is called "confirmation bias", RTD. Look into it. This is a very, very dumb shell game of "look over here at $55 million dollars and terrorists and stuff!" while Musk gets $30B no-bid contracts from gutted agencies that won't be able to provide oversight into his companies now.
You probably still believe that 20,000,000 people over 150 years old are getting Social Security checks, so I don't expect you to examine any of this critically.
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Clemson Conqueror [11637]
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Re: "DOGE staffer"
May 2, 2025, 2:02 PM
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You’ll feel even worse when selected staff and managers of this agency get sentenced for criminal activities.
This whole DOGE thingy of shedding light on government corruption has just got to stop.
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Indictments are coming any day!***
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May 2, 2025, 2:06 PM
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Meanwhile, Trump is the arbiter of the unregulated crypto market, from
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May 2, 2025, 2:19 PM
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which he's made several billion dollars in the last 6 months. Any foreign individual or government has a direct line to curry favor with the President. The Trump family's World Liberty Financial cryptocurrency company is OPENLY advertising access to the President as a reward for investment.
But hey, we better get to the bottom of that $130,000 payment to some guy in the Middle East, and predictably, the "DOGE staffer" will end up being full of shit and it'll be a non-story. But don't let that stop the feel-goods you're experiencing from tackling all this corruption.
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Simply put, you're full of ####,***
May 2, 2025, 6:11 PM
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Paw Master [16721]
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I think it's important to remember that Elon Musk is not the MyPillow guy.
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May 2, 2025, 2:38 PM
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I'm not going to get on here and vouch for everything Elon Musk or DOGE do. I'm not saying that their processes are perfect.
But this current narrative that Elon Musk took this job in order to remove all of the oversight into his contracts...
No. I don't think so.
Please remember that this is the richest man in the world. He is not a recovering cocaine addict convict trying to hock his pillows. He doesn't need a government contract and he sells his services all over the world. His Starlink solution provides a unique capability. Many countries around the world utilize his services and a couple of US contracts are not making or breaking either him or his company. And if his goal was to gain unencumbered government contracts in order to enrich either himself or his companies, his actions over the past six months are clearly counter-productive to that cause. Many people boycott him and he has invited intense scrutiny now and animosity from Democrats if and when they regain control. He could have way more easily donated some campaign money to the right people and taken his contract. You know...the traditional way.
So, I'm not buying that story.
I'm generally pro-DOGE...warts and all. I'm actually a bit concerned about it's future with Musk leaving because it seems to me that it needs a force of nature to enact change. And change is needed. $1.83 trillion budget deficit last year. This is not a partisan knock. We need to change trajectory. My hope was that DOGE would turn a focused eye on the DOD before Musk left. Slash, slash, slash.
Yes yes yes...Institute of Peace...soft power...we don't have the money. And I think this line of thinking that those slashing just don't understand how it works is part of the problem. Great...DOGE doesn't understand...and the advocates of the Institute of Peace can't make their case beyond condescending. Soooo...slash. Gone. If two or three years down the line we realize that was a mistake, okay, lick our wounds and start to rebuild it. But everyone likes to act like these are sacred cows and anyone who touches it is taking milk away from babies and is the devil...so just give them their annual 4% budget increase and be quiet.
We don't have the money.
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A couple things:
May 2, 2025, 3:49 PM
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1. his companies exist because of US government contracts and tax breaks; he probably wouldn't have a hundredth of his current wealth without them (which would still be more than 99.999% of people will ever see)
2. He absolutely IS driven, perhaps the primary motivator, by his irritation at several agencies exerting regulations, fines, and limits on what his companies can do. That's not even arguable. Technocrats are a pretty unique breed that most of us don't understand, but the Thiels and Gates and Musks and a thousand other slightly lesser knowns believe government is inherently inefficient (they're not entirely wrong) and that it should be scrapped and run by a CEO type focusing on efficiency (they're wholly wrong). Musk in particular very clearly does not believe that ANYBODY should have the ability to tell him what he and his businesses can or cannot do, which is exactly what the Department of Labor, the CFPB, USAID (yeah, look it up), DOT, USDA, EPA, DOD, DOI, DOJ, and the SEC have done over the past two decades. Anything on that list that wasn't targeted by DOGE? And this is not to say that evaluation and cuts weren't needed, but it certainly shouldn't have been done the way it was, and it will take years to fully understand the impacts and reverberations from these slashes.
3. "the Institute of Peace can't make their case beyond condescending"...not sure what that means, but does anybody believe this was a discussion, and not just a rugpull like DOGE has done with every other agency that has been cut? I didn't read the whole article in detail, but if the "condescension" coming from IOP is based purely on this DOGE staffer's account...how believeable do you think that is, based on their record so far?
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Paw Master [16721]
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All good.
May 2, 2025, 4:00 PM
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1) That's fine. My point is that he's not doing what he is doing now so that he can get a couple of government contracts without oversight.
2) Also fine. I don't know if you are right or not about Musk and his philosophy. I would argue that if he believes the government should stay out of HIS affairs, he wouldn't have done what he has done. He would have quietly made the political moves to minimize their involvement with his companies. He wouldn't have publicly slashed it unless he thinks government shouldn't' be involved in ANYONE's business, which is certainly possible, but again, doesn't speak to someone just out to get a couple of contracts and be left alone. I would add, also, that very few business leaders love to have government involved in their business, but for a guy like Musk...if he has 100xx the wealth he would have had without government contracts, I would assume he'd be MORE entwined with them, not less. He clearly knows how to work the system in that case.
3) No, you're probably right. I didn't read the article either. I'm just going off of the constant vague reference to "how things are done". Musk has no interest in that and he shouldn't. If you can make a compelling argument as to the value of your organization, and why everyone else in America should pay for it, make it. Otherwise he's going to slash it. And maybe they didn't get the chance and that's a shame...we'll see how we get buy as a country without all that money supporting that function.
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Re: A couple things:
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May 2, 2025, 4:58 PM
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TDS and MDS means haters going to hate. You appear to not have been involved with or have not worked with anyone that was fired for fraud and theft. I've seen it and was glad when they were fired and not really surprised when they were arrested.
The government needs more cut and slashed along with legislation to prevent it from coming back in the future.
In the future, all money spent needs to be available from traceable government budgeted accounts made directly to the recipient by the Treasury Department. No NGOs, no go betweens, nor indirect payments involved. Therefore, no need for Departments like USAID, Institute for Peace and even more. Let who wants or thinks they need money come directly to the President and ask for it. The POTUS can have someone look into it and determine if it's a valid request and is there anything in the budget discretionary funds to cover it. If no discretionary funds are available, then Congress and Presidential approval is required by reallocating finds or it waits until the next budget. You know, like what businesses and families have to do when deciding on discretionary spending.
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This is an unserious response.
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May 2, 2025, 5:11 PM
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You want to blow up the whole NGO model? Like...what? I don't think you understand what they actually do in the global ecosystem or how much worse off the global community would be without them.
And you think the President should be approving every single request for funding? Again...what? Congress does that, and every bit of the funding that has been cut the past few months WAS approved by Congress, and the large majority of it can't legally be removed WITHOUT Congressional approval. Trump did it anyway, and that should alarm anybody of any political stripe with the audacity of that kind of power grab.
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Re: This is an unserious response.
May 2, 2025, 5:21 PM
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No worse then the crumbling society we are currently in. The global community will do fine without American intervention. These NGOs are nothing but a money laundering operation. Unless it is in the business of trafficking humans to include child exploitation, cheap labor, and the boatload of middle aged men from cesspool countries infiltrating and destroying our country. At this point if you are against finding where the money went you are either in the grift or just anti-america. Possibly a communist. Meanwhile, our republic is being shredded by complete and total corruption and people like you are upset that some scumbag ms-13 criminal is getting what he deserved.
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That's what agency OIG office is for, not a bunch of kids. What they are doing
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is building a massive unsecure gov database with the narrative of weeding out fraud, blah, blah. Brought to you by GROK
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Even Musk is acknowleging that DOGE has been a failure, let it go.***
May 2, 2025, 5:04 PM
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Re: Even Musk is acknowleging that DOGE has been a failure, let it go.***
May 3, 2025, 10:07 AM
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DIGE has been successful at identifying corruption and fiduciary sloth within the government. Musk’s special value contribution is his fame. When Musk points something out, it gets everyone’s attention.
Why is it that so many Americans hate DOGE? Do they really like it that the federal government and the parasites that are welcomed to suck America’s blood is fighting like mad to continue to support fraudulent activities? The fraud that the government condones for its insiders would cause a politically unconnected private citizen to be thrown under the jail.
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If there is all this Fraud you speak of then why hasn't anyone been arrested!!!!
May 2, 2025, 6:09 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11637]
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Re: If there is all this Fraud you speak of then why hasn't anyone been arrested!!!!
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May 3, 2025, 10:14 AM
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Exposure of the fraud is a difficult endeavor because crooked judges (who overstep their authority) and crooked politicians & bureaucrats are fighting like mad to block DOGE from exposing them.
DOGE’s activities are similar to a comprehensive audit if the government. In a private sector audit, all departments in the company get evaluated for information that may lead to identification of fraud that was initiated by a different department.
Yet, for the federal government, huge effort is applied to prevent the cross-checking of potential fraud that is taking place via coordination with the other department.
The crooked courts try to quash this effort by citing the illegality of a ‘fishing expedition.’ But that is precisely what an audit does. It ‘fishes’ through the entire company for clues that might lead to finding fraud.
The leftists are fine that audits take place … as long as the govt does not get comprehensively audited.
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