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The most transparent administration in history
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JD: “Hey Pete, did you forget to turn on your disappearing text? “
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110%er [3628]
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The most transparent administration in history
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JD: “Hey Pete, did you forget to turn on your disappearing text? “
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108199]
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Lol, paywall is DOWN.***
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Paw Master [16338]
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Pretty shittie to publish the war plans imo.
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Mar 26, 2025, 9:38 AM
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Obviously a dumbbass mistake (i guess?) by the administration but why would you publish it for the world to see?
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Tiger Titan [48556]
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When you have Hegseth and an army of mouth-breathing Trumpers...
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Mar 26, 2025, 9:42 AM
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Calling you a liar about it, well, it's FAFO time. They did redact confidential information AND, get this, the CIA asked them to, so that means everyone in DC knows this was some bad ####.
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Paw Master [16338]
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I haven't read it, but I would hope you wouldn't publish classified info
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Mar 26, 2025, 9:44 AM
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for the world to see just because you have an agenda against a certain president, incompetent or not.
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Tiger Titan [48556]
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Re: I haven't read it, but I would hope you wouldn't publish classified info
Mar 26, 2025, 9:50 AM
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The magazine said it reached out to the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, the Pentagon and the White House prior to publishing the piece to alert officials they were considering releasing the entirety of the messages Goldberg accessed in light of their recent statements.
Not only did Hegseth call them liars, but Gabbard, Waltz, and others tried to claim nothing classified was in it, so they too were calling them liars. All in all, they committed a major security infraction, called the people they sent it too liars and lied to the American public about their own mistakes. Thus, it was worth publishing. This is Pentagon Papers level stuff of the government lying to the people and the people needing to know the truth.
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Paw Master [16338]
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Again, I've got zero problems calling out incompetence. That's what
Mar 26, 2025, 9:57 AM
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journalists should do and get paid to do as a service to the people.
I haven't read it, so hopefully, any true classified info was redacted and not published for the world to see. To me, that's where a pissin contest goes too far.
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Ring of Honor [22080]
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Various sources in Trumps admin said nothing classified was discussed
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:03 AM
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It is not the press’s responsibility to determine security classification.
Seems that you are suggesting holding the press to higher standards than Trump’s administration?
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Orange Elite [5231]
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Re: Various sources in Trumps admin said nothing classified was discussed
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:04 AM
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That is exactly what he is suggesting.
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Paw Master [16338]
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How am I suggesting that? Seems like there would be a way to hammer
Mar 26, 2025, 10:41 AM
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the Trump admin for this incompetence without exposing to the world classified info. And hopefully certain truly classified details were redacted. I just saw the headline.
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Ring of Honor [22080]
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At todays Senate hearing.
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:05 AM
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Gabbard maintained that classified information was not shared, but called the conversation "candid and sensitive."
If nothing was classified, then not requires redactions.
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Re: How am I suggesting that? Seems like there would be a way to hammer
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Mar 26, 2025, 12:09 PM
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They withheld the name of a CIA operative, and everything else had already happened. Remember, Hegseth even said, "It was a success." The Atlantic is not jeopardizing US national security; this administration is.
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Orange Elite [5417]
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That's the problem, even with the classified information bieng published
Mar 26, 2025, 12:57 PM
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the Republicans are refusing to hold Trump his and his incompetent cronies accountable.
They certainly weren't going to be held accountable by not publishing the texts. They were just going to lie about them.
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Re: I haven't read it, but I would hope you wouldn't publish classified info
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:29 AM
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He explained yesterday that he and his colleagues were still deciding what to do with all of the texts, what was in the public interest to see, and what needed to be held back. For example, there was an active CIA agent on the text chain, and they have been very careful to not expose that individual.
Journalists’ job is to be journalists. Thank god for people like the Atlantic, the WSJ, the NYT, etc. At some point the country will hopefully open its eyes to the reality that unsourced tweets and blog posts are not sources for truth and facts, they are sources for confirming one’s own biases.
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Re: I haven't read it, but I would hope you wouldn't publish classified info
Mar 26, 2025, 10:44 AM
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Pot meet kettle.
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Re: I haven't read it, but I would hope you wouldn't publish classified info
Mar 26, 2025, 10:47 AM
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I don’t think you’re applying that idiom correctly here
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Re: I haven't read it, but I would hope you wouldn't publish classified info
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:42 AM
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To be fair Goldberg lied to the American public about the Iraqi war and successes in Afghanistan.
Goldberg and the Atlantic lied about the Russia/Trump hoax. Let’s not act like Goldberg is some partisan, journalistic saint. That’s absolutely laughable.
The signal leak is embarrassing and should have never happened. I do wonder why Mike Walz had Goldstein in his Signal app contacts, an app that comes pre loaded on government phones. Why would Trumps NSA have a known Trump-hating journalist in his Signal contacts?
Also, Trump told the public about his intent to take out military strikes on the Houthis before it happened. Certainly nothing as specific as was spoken about in this chat but we all knew it was coming.
Walz certainly needs to be investigated as he is the one who invited Goldberg to the chat. All that being said there is no excuse for this level of stupidity and it is certainly an embarrassment.
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Tiger Titan [48556]
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Do you have links to those examples where he and the Atlantic lied?
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Mar 26, 2025, 11:44 AM
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Or even just copy and paste text?
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Re: I haven't read it, but I would hope you wouldn't publish classified info
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I think you may just be repeating things you’ve heard others claim as justification to downplay this current story. A lot of MAGA folks dislike Jeff Goldberg because of his reporting on comments from John Kelly about Trump disrespecting dead US soldiers.
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Re: I haven't read it, but I would hope you wouldn't publish classified info
Mar 26, 2025, 11:20 AM
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Journalists’ job is to be journalists. Thank god for people like the Atlantic, the WSJ, the NYT, etc. At some point the country will hopefully open its eyes to the reality that unsourced tweets and blog posts are not sources for truth and facts, they are sources for confirming one’s own biases.
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Paw Master [16629]
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God help me, I agree with Cata regarding a journalist.
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Mar 26, 2025, 12:06 PM
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These f-ers got on TV and called the guy a liar, after he chose to rightly keep the confidential stuff under wraps. They are lucky if they don’t get sued for defamation. And then they sat in front of Congress and said that nothing Top Secret was in those discussions. Okay, great. If I’m the journalist, I’d say here you go…here’s the “not Top Secret” information that I “lied about” being in the Signal Chat.
I assume he didn’t provide the name of the CIA agent that is under cover? I would say that’s a bridge too far because at this point, I think it is the only thing “ongoing” in the discussion.
It is a bunch of unaccountable amateurs running things. A professional would be too embarrassed to keep their position for another day, let alone make excuses.
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Tiger Titan [48556]
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Technically, he wasn't under cover but...
Mar 26, 2025, 2:12 PM
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The CIA wanted his name redacted in case he needed to do foreign work in the future, so the Atlantic honored that.
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Paw Master [16629]
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Yeah, whatever it was. Good on them. Keep that person out of the discussion.***
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Hey Keowee!
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Mar 26, 2025, 9:42 AM
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Take this one lightly to the face. KeoweeIndians®
Prediction: Keowee disappears for the day.
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Ultimate Tiger [38937]
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Re: Hey Keowee!
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He’s probably just cycling Mt Everest and having dinner with LeBron James.
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Orange Elite [5417]
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I just genuinely cant comprehend how the right
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Is so willing to allow their politicians to openly lie to them.
I can live with two people wanting to find the truth coming to two different conclusions. I can’t live with one person just ignoring the truth.
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Ultimate Tiger [36205]
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It's not "the right." It's Trumpers.***
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Ring of Honor [22080]
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Is there a difference between MAGA and Pubs and Conservatives and the Right?
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:26 AM
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Seems they have coalesced into MAGA loyalists with no room for dissent. The Left / Dems never coalesces on anything _ and now MAGA has adsorbed all Conservatives and embraces many unAmerican values and policies.
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Paw Master [16629]
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I dont know about the Right but certainly Conservatives are different.
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That’s how I would describe myself and Trump is not that. He’s a populist politician and that is what the Republicans have become. There really isn’t a Conservative home right now. And Trump is doing some things that we would embrace (closing borders, cutting government spend) but no…he’s foreign policy and mockery of the truth AND the Constitution are indeed a collective bridge too far.
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Re: Definitely. Lots of anti-Trump conservatives in here.
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well, it seems a lot of them are Christian nationalists, groomed since childhood, whether they realize it or not.
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Re: Definitely. Lots of anti-Trump conservatives in here.
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That may be, but that's not inconsistent with what I wrote.
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TigerNet Champion [121014]
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I was not arguing Christian Nationalists had an Identity
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I thought it would be fun to steal the word grooming from crash and use it a post.
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Orange Elite [5417]
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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I would agree if you qualified it with elected republicans...
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there are plenty of registered republicans and people that consider themselves to be republican party supporters that don't like Trump. I think that was evidenced in the initial primary race, where there was 40-50% of GOP primary voters picking someone other than Trump.
But there sure as heck aren't many elected republicans putting country above party/their own seat right now.
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Orange Elite [5417]
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Yet, they voted for him on election day
Mar 26, 2025, 1:39 PM
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so not too opposed to him.
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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opposed to him as the GOP leader...but preferred him over Harris/Biden***
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Orange Elite [5417]
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Then you have to own him as your guy
Mar 26, 2025, 2:43 PM
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If the Democrats ran a candidate as bad as Trump, I wouldn't vote for that person.
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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I didn't vote for Trump FWIW***
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Can you explain the reasoning for voting for Trump over Harris?
Mar 26, 2025, 4:38 PM
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The chaos he's brought in just the few months he's been in office was telegraphed and, at times, explicitly told would happen by Trump himself. Project 2025, Tariffs, the destruction of NATO, blowing up the Federal Government, etc., were all known givens, so I don't understand how, even if you don't like Biden/Harris, you could knowingly be more okay with voting for chaos over them.
And let me say, I think you are one of the few rational and authentic Republicans/Conservatives on this board whose opinions I do like reading and learning from. I don't want this to feel like I'm trying to attack you; I'm genuinely interested in how you made your decision.
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CU Medallion [18950]
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I just saw you post you didn't vote for him, so you can ignore that part***
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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I worded it poorly...I did NOT vote for Trump...
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I was speaking to other republicans.
I am a never-Trumper to be sure.
However, I think Biden and Harris were really bad options as well. To the point where I can see how others might have held their nose and voted for Trump.
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CU Medallion [18950]
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I apologize for thinking you voted for him, I should have understood you didn't
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I want to make it clear I'm not saying Harris would have been a homerun choice or that there weren't clear issues with her, but in comparison to what Trump knowingly represented for the future of this country, I don't understand how anyone could vote for him (holding one's nose or not), what was their predicted upside with him?
To me, the better calculus for those people would have been to hold their nose and vote for Harris with the assumption the Republicans would carry the House/Senate as was predicted, limiting her power.
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Orange Elite [5417]
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He just doesn't want to admit he voted for Trump
Mar 26, 2025, 6:25 PM
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so he has more "credibility" as an independent thinker.
He 100% voted for Trump.
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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Umm...you haven't been here for very long, have you?...
Mar 26, 2025, 7:51 PM
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You're making yourself look stupid.
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Orange Elite [5417]
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That's the beauty of a secret ballot
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You can say a lot of things but when you get in the booth, you can hide what you actually do.
You're far too politically active on this message board to to waste your vote on a Libertarian candidate you know has no chance to win.
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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I voted for Randall Terry Constitution Party, but....
Mar 26, 2025, 8:17 PM
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I appreciate you calling me a liar!
I've never voted for Trump and have been pretty vocal on the topic, but you seem to have it all figured out, so carry on.
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Tiger Titan [48556]
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I wondered how long it would take you
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To digress back to your old bad habits here. Flow has been adamantly anti Trump pretty much from the beginning of the first term; someone even threatened to report him to the SC GOP years ago for not voting for him.
A more direct way to say this: Calm your t!ts.
I haven’t voted Pub or Dem since 2008. Am I lying about that because I’m too active here?
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Your posting style hits the mark for someone that would
Mar 26, 2025, 8:45 PM
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vote independent.
The problem for Flow is that his posting style perfectly tracks the type of person that's misleading pollsters the past several elections.
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What have I ever posted that makes you think I'm MAGA or at all support....
Mar 26, 2025, 8:47 PM
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Trump
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Why don't you give us a breakdown of the difference in positions between
Mar 26, 2025, 8:52 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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You're the one making claims on here...and I asked you to back it up...
Mar 26, 2025, 8:59 PM
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You can't back it up by trying to give me an assignment. Try again.
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The fact you can't answer the assignment is my proof***
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Lawd, Jesus, no it's not.
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You accused him of being something he's not and he challenged you to prove it.
You've stepped on your d!ck here. Bail out. The man even said he voted for Biden in 2020, if I recall correctly.
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I struck a nerve because you know I'm right
Mar 26, 2025, 11:57 PM
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you support Trump's actual policies, you just don't want to be associated with the harm you know they will cause.
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Tiger Titan [48556]
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Why are you being like this? Again?
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This is the same BS you used to pull on the Mange. He's posted many times opposition to Trump's policies, but you know what? Not all of them. Hell, I'm not opposed to everything the man has proposed in the past, like cutting spending or government fat.
Like Flow, I can't stand the man or his execution of any policy, and I know his end game is a dictatorship.
You're wandering in here at the start of this new administration and making claims against a poster who has, for years, spoken out against Trump and his actions and demanding he do your "assignments" because what? He dared to disagree with you on one issue? Again, same #### you'd always pull on the Mange years ago.
G T F O, Cooter. You don't swing any clout here.
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Orange Elite [5417]
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Which Trump policies is he opposed to?
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You've already claimed he voted for Biden in 2020 when he claims he voted for the Constitution Policy. Maybe you're not accurately describing the poster the way you claim you are.
From what I've seen of his posts, he falls into the camp of "DOGE sucks...but they're right here..."
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"Trump is an idiot...but the federal government shouldn't fund school lunches..."
I've asked him to describe the the policy proposals that differentiate Randall Terry from Donald Trump but he's refused to describe what made him choose Randall Terry. In all reality, Terry is even more extremist and irrational than Donald Trump. That's why Flow doesn't want to actually break down "why he voted for Terry" because there is no reasonable reason to pick Terry over Trump. It's just a cover for supporting Trump.
Who else did Flow vote for in the past several years? Did he vote Graham or Scott? Who is his Representative? Did he continue to vote for those MAGAs who enable Trump?
Flow's entire schtick is that he's somehow a conservative that's different than Trump. But all Trump is the embodiment of the post-Nixon Republican Party. So if you were voting for Reagan, Bush, McCain, Romney, etc. you were just clearing the path for Trump. You're not somehow better than all the other ones who cleared that same path.
If you were actually anti-Trump you would be supporting the actual opposition to him and not enabling him.
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Mar 27, 2025, 1:11 PM
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He said he voted for Terry in 2024. Not 2020 because Terry didn't run then. I THINK he voted Biden in 2020 but can't remember.
You are waltzing in here and attacking someone who is, right now, your ally in the battle against this insanity. He has been anti Trump to the core. You are attacking him because he's not "liberal enough" or whatever your criteria is, and that is behaving EXACTLY like a Trumper. They table anyone who isn't exactly like them as a radical leftist.
Stop acting like that. Be better.
Flow has been railing against Trumo before you ever slinked back onto this board after your gifted win in 2022 (which it was). He has been in extensive, sometimes heated arguments against the idiot Trumpers here.
Take him at his word. Trumpkins always wear their badge of idiocy on their foreheads. Behave like an adult and just accept you disagree on an issue but that he still sides with you on Trump.
In other words, quit acting like you used to.
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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Hey man, seriously, you're just doubling down on stupid here...
Mar 27, 2025, 8:08 AM
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shouldn't you at least browse my post history before making stuff up?
You didn't strike any nerve, outside of being annoying.
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Tiger Titan [48556]
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Why would he or anyone for that matter lie about who they voted for here?
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Mar 26, 2025, 8:56 PM
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Everyone here wears their choices as a badge of honor; and we have some who are just as honest and straightforward as flow who admit they once supported Trump but have turned. He's never thrown support behind the man that I can recall, and yeah, he is a conservative Republican.
He has no reason to lie about it, and you look silly claiming he is. Once again, you're trying to generate a conflict when there isn't one.
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One of the bigger differences I've noticed is MAGA becoming more Un-American
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Pro-Russia
Against Free Speech
Anti-immigrant
Pro-Monarch/Oligarchy
Pro destruction of Federal Government
Against Due Process
Against NATO/European allies/Canada
Anti-Farmer/worker rights
etc...
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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Most MAGA are not "the right"....
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I would say they aren't anything because they clearly have no distinguishable political belief system...no "center" so to speak.
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Paw Master [16196]
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Re: The Atlantic Publishes War Plans Discussed In Signal Group Chat
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:12 AM
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It was unacceptable when Hillary was doing her DA stuff and it’s absolutely unacceptable that a host of people essentially got on a party line.
This in my opinion is worse because there were multiple people who should have known better than to use a phone app, whether encrypted or not, to blather about national security issues.
This was really stupid and there should be repercussions.
For those who were on HRC’s case, to give Trump’s people a pass on this, where’s the logic behind that?
Multiple people should be fired.
What else has been discussed on Signal that our adversaries, not a journalist, now has possession of?
Total ineptitude has been demonstrated.
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Agreed. And for the record both Clintons were condescending elitists .
Mar 26, 2025, 10:31 AM
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… but politically astute. Didn’t vote for either but in retrospect, Slick Willy was slick.
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Re: The Atlantic Publishes War Plans Discussed In Signal Group Chat
Mar 27, 2025, 10:55 PM
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There was a difference with Hillary, for most of you who forgot or don't understand these matters. There was not a law (or even a policy) against having a private email server at that time. The Bush administration had used private email servers and accounts, including Colin Powell who preceded Hillary. The laws covering transmitting classified or sensitive unclassified have been in place a lot longer than internet mail has been around, since even before bitnet (that we didn't even call mail). Hillary's mistake was a general emailing her some material that had a couple of confidential markings in the middle of a paragraph without the required footer and header. Send from the wrong system to another wrong system. I recall a total of two emails like that, and the dirty truth is that the originators of those emails were the ones subject to potential prosecution, not the receiver. Not a box full of classified documents by the toilet in a club frequented by foreign spies, not details of a pending attack on a free messaging app on private phones that are surely monitored by all of our adversaries. So I would ask all of the ignorants to stop blasting "but her emails" out of their anuses until they gain some proper education.
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Re: The Atlantic Publishes War Plans Discussed In Signal Group Chat
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:16 AM
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Completely unpredictable that a weekend TV host for Secretary of Defense and a dingbat congresswoman for DNI would make such rookie mistakes with national security information.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [108199]
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Re: Here, tell me if you buy this explanation......
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Mar 26, 2025, 10:30 AM
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I accept his explanation of carelessness and sheer dumbassery as the only possible explanation here.
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Re: The Atlantic Publishes War Plans Discussed In Signal Group Chat
Mar 26, 2025, 7:58 PM
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I found Fox articles highlighting a later memo that recommended targeted staffers use encrypted messaging like Signal. Of course, they present it in a way to confuse people. The later memo recommended staffers use apps like Signal instead of sms messaging for their personal business. CUI is still not allowed on non-managed apps.
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Re: The Atlantic Publishes War Plans Discussed In Signal Group Chat
Mar 26, 2025, 1:11 PM
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Not even the propaganda peddling Atlantic thinks these were "war plans" as they've already changed their own headline to "attack plans". Will you morons ever stop believing whatever you're told? Wait no need to answer as it's already pretty obvious.
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Youre grasping at straws, this is just sad***
Mar 26, 2025, 1:41 PM
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Holp crap, you aren't this big of an idiot...
Mar 26, 2025, 2:02 PM
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right?
The exact timing of the strikes, the sequence of the strikes, what equipment is to be used, and who they are going after...and you come on here and type "Will you morons ever stop believing whatever you're told?"
What I'm told? I READ IT! And the message chain has been authenticated by NSC.
What the effing eff would you call it?
Seriously, why even post on this topic and type something like that? Have you just given up...assume everyone already knows you're a clueless lap puppet...so what the heck, you'll just continue to post your insane BS on here, because what more harm could really happen to your image? You're really to the point where nothing you post on these kind of subjects can really be surprising to anyone with any sense.
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What strikes
Mar 26, 2025, 2:51 PM
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Do you have the location of the strikes? What about the country that the strikes occurred in? After the fact you might be able to figure it out, but not before based on what has been provided.
It was a mistake and they should make sure that the Atlantic has no access what so ever to any information that is not public.
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Ultimate Tiger [34913]
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umm...the Houthi are in Yeman...specifically...
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Mar 26, 2025, 4:42 PM
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in an area that attacks ships passing to and from the Red Sea.
Was this really a serious comment from you?
I can tell you that every military expert I've heard talk on this says that if this info was in the hands of the Houthi that it would have put our pilots in danger. Are you really disputing this?
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Re: Literally one of the text messages has a timeline of what will happen.***
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This is the kind of screwup that could have led to the loss of drones, planes, and lives.
The old adage of “loose lips sink ships” is true and what happened is unacceptable under Trump or any other Administration.
Defending this is defending the indefensible. Period.
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Not just indefensible, it's Un-American to defend it.***
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Re: Not just indefensible, it's Un-American to defend it.***
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Correct. It matters not one bit that the Houthis didn't destroy any of our military materiel or that the attack went off as apparently intended.I'm glad that is true, but that is not the issue.
The facts are that multiple people were on a group text discussing a military operation and that operational security was jeopardized.
This shouldn't have happened, there should be repercussions, and this should never happen again.
I would have been just as critical if this had happened under Biden or Harris and I suspect many here who are making excuses for this lapse in judgment would be loudly criticizing Biden or Harris officials had this occurred on their watch.
Gotta call balls and strikes. I was for firing Lloyd Austin for his failure to notify Biden that he was not only not on the job, but was hospitalized and even in the ICU for a time. That had nothing to do with who was President.
Defending this carelessness and or ineptitude just because this is a Team Trump issue is not a good look.
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And yet MAGA is defending it because they are
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in a cult. They will never utter a word of criticism of the savior they worship and his appointees. They will defend everything this administration does no matter what. The usual suspects here are perfect examples of that.
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Re: The Atlantic Publishes War Plans Discussed In Signal Group Chat
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War plans are for a war. We are not currently in a war so attack plans are more accurate BUT no matter what this is called it’s still obvious this IS classified info no matter what they call it. Just spinning $hit like usual. It’s the Trump way to deflect and blame. These cabinet members are just imitating the tangerine turd. Just embarrassing
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Re: The Atlantic Publishes War Plans Discussed In Signal Group Chat
Mar 26, 2025, 8:09 PM
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Just saw Pete close to flipping out answering questions in Hawaii. He's definitely drunk tonight.
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Re: The Atlantic Publishes War Plans Discussed In Signal Group Chat
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The longer this story is in the news the more likely Petey will get canned. He has to be on edge. Let him have a drink. Or TEN. They would have been better off owning up to it and taking responsibility for effing up. Lesson learned we won’t do it again. Instead they are lying and deflecting and it keeps the story in the forefront of everyone’s minds. Big mistake 🤡
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When you're losing even Tomi Lahren....
Mar 27, 2025, 7:41 AM
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She's about as Pro Trump as it gets and she's had enough of the lame defense of the Signal mess.
People don't like it when government officials lie and obfuscate. I didn't like it at all when KJP and Mayorkas fed us the BS that the border was secure and I don't like it when officials in this Administration defend the indefensible.
Most of us teach our kids to accept responsibility for screwups, face the consequences and not repeat the screwup. Apparently, DJT doesn't subscribe to that philosophy.
https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/politics/2025/03/27/republicans-grow-weary-of-trump-teams-signal-chat-denials/
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Re: The Atlantic Publishes War Plans Discussed In Signal Group Chat
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Is it a war plan when: I say at 1830, I'm going to drop a shot of Irish whiskey in a Guinness and slam an Irish car bomb. I never knew.
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