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Surprised Brownell can't attract a decent low post player
Mar 15, 2013, 12:06 PM
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given his coaching abilities and our roster.
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Re: Surprised Brownell can't attract a decent low post player
Mar 15, 2013, 12:09 PM
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I'm just surprised anytime we make a free throw.
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I know! He's had like 2 years already! Get another Stud like
Mar 15, 2013, 12:10 PM
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Bobo...
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Isn't this his 4th recruiting class?
Mar 15, 2013, 12:14 PM
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You could argue to throw out his first class. He has now had 3 full classes with 1 scholarship remaining.
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He's had 2 classes on campus...Only an idiot would count
Mar 15, 2013, 12:20 PM
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the class that OP ran off on and his "4th" class has yet to step on campus....2 classes...We'll see how Landry and Josh play out...
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Re: He's had 2 classes on campus...Only an idiot would count
Mar 15, 2013, 1:02 PM
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2 classes of his guys. he had Stanton who transferred after the first year. He was a BB recruit who came with him to CU in the job change after OP left.
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I realize that he came with Brad, but you can't say he had
Mar 15, 2013, 1:05 PM
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time to sign a REAL class at Clemson after he took the job...Cory was headed to Wright State and came with him...He wasn't recruited to Clemson...
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Re: I realize that he came with Brad, but you can't say he had
Mar 15, 2013, 2:01 PM
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that is my point and he isnt there so there are only two classes of guys this past season
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The age of true low post players is all but gone....
Mar 15, 2013, 12:13 PM
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...with all the 6'10" guys bombing 3's in the NBA now big guys don't want to get on the block. There are no Ewings, Jabbars, or even Howards anymore.....at least imo.
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Certainly not suggesting that, but that should not be used
Mar 15, 2013, 12:17 PM
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as an excuse for not signing quality players over 6-6 who can play the positions.
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Why don't you give him some time?***
Mar 15, 2013, 12:21 PM
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I think 4 years in basketball is plenty of time to establish
Mar 15, 2013, 12:30 PM
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what you can do.
We should know by the end of next year if he can get it done. But, I understand a sense of urgency on the part of the AD to get the basketball program on a money making path and avoid continuing down one that may be the wrong one.
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He hasn't had four years yet...***
Mar 15, 2013, 12:31 PM
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I get the distinct impression you aren't reading my posts.
Mar 15, 2013, 12:37 PM
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either that or you are making elementary reading comprehension mistakes.
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And I get the distinct impression that you can't count if
Mar 15, 2013, 12:39 PM
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you think he has had 4 recruiting classes...
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I can explain it to you, but I can't make you understand it.
Mar 15, 2013, 12:45 PM
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1st class: Stanton 2nd class: Hall, McDaniel, Coleman, Sapp, Sullivan 3rd class: Nnoko, Smith, Filer, Roper, Blossomgame 4th class: Rooks, Ajukwa, and 1 more scholarship.
Maybe he gets a stud with the last scholarship, but so far, it's as I said it was.
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Only an idiot would count the class that OP ran out on as
Mar 15, 2013, 12:47 PM
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a full class for Brad...He has had 2 full classes on campus...
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No, I am reading...You want to count his 11th hour class,
Mar 15, 2013, 12:58 PM
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because you know there were a lot of big men waiting around in April and you want to count a class that he has not finalized...That's how YOU get to 4...I say he has 2 classes to judge so far...
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You can't judge Rooks' and Ajukwa's height yet?
Mar 15, 2013, 1:05 PM
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everything I read says they are 6-3 and 6-5. He's got one more scholarship out of his last 3 classes to sign another big man, which was my original point.
And you missed the statement where I said you could argue to throw the first one of the four out.
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The Class isn't full yet...And I read you say that, then
Mar 15, 2013, 1:07 PM
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count that class...So where does that leave it?
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right where I said it was.***
Mar 15, 2013, 1:14 PM
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Wasn't arguing just think its hard to find 6'8"+..
Mar 15, 2013, 12:26 PM
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in todays generation that is willing to be just a big block guy....they all think they can score like Durant....which lends itself back to the 'system' argument again....i'm a Brownell fan and really with where we are now have no problem giving him at least 2 more years....basketball today can be fixed quickly with so many guys wanting to jump to NBA (warranted or not) so you have ability to recruit yourself to a winning season but often its short lived unless youre the BIG DOGs.....i say let's see if he can establish a program and if in 2 years we are still here then go hire the HOT new guy and let him give it a shot....but remember im just a girls hs hoops coach so take all the above accordingly....
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I guess he's still working hard on Demetrius Henry.
Mar 15, 2013, 12:20 PM
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and maybe the Djitte kid out of Fayetteville. There are very few 4 or 5 star guys left in this cycle.
and he has no shot at those 2 five star PFs.
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Demetrius Henry has eliminated us, I believe. He has the
Mar 15, 2013, 12:22 PM
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gamecocks in his final three. Surprised Brownell couldn't make the cut there, especially considering SC did.
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Are you really surprised? Or are you glad?***
Mar 15, 2013, 12:24 PM
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Why would I, a 1982 Clemson grad who has followed the
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Mar 15, 2013, 12:34 PM
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Clemson basketball program since the 1960s and who loves basketball be glad that we lose out on good players that will make our team better?
What a stupid question.
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So you can b1tch...***
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Mar 15, 2013, 12:36 PM
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Put the coffee cup down and come back when you can
Mar 15, 2013, 12:38 PM
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have a reasonable conversation about how to improve our basketball team to a point we can all be proud of.
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Like your opening jab at OUR coach?***
Mar 15, 2013, 12:40 PM
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It's a valid concern for anybody that enjoys Clemson
Mar 15, 2013, 12:47 PM
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basketball. You can't just click your heels together and wish it away.
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I enjoy Clemson Basketball, and I support OUR coach...Taking
Mar 15, 2013, 12:49 PM
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digs at Brad makes us better how?
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It's obvious you're upset and I see where this is going, so
Mar 15, 2013, 12:56 PM
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I'll let you have the last word.
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I'm not upset, but I don't suffer fools lightly, and YOU
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Mar 15, 2013, 1:00 PM
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started this thread off with a dig and have tried to bactrack into "I'm just want a reasonable discussion about getting better" when it is obvious that you just wanted to take a shot...
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"I'm surprised Coach Brownell hasn't been able to attract
Mar 15, 2013, 1:13 PM
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a big man given his coaching abilities and our roster."
After 4 recruiting class, one of which you can throw out, he only has 2 big man. He has one more scholarship to use in this class, possibly on another big man. Up to this point we only have 2 men(most understand this is less than desirable).
I thought I would consolidate my statements for you.
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Thought you were going to let him have the
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Mar 15, 2013, 1:17 PM
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last word
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CU Medallion [18243]
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He also said he would throw out Brad's first class, but then
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Mar 15, 2013, 1:18 PM
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he counts it everytime...
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I know it was a dig and that you are reluctant to admit it
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Mar 15, 2013, 1:20 PM
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now...
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I would call it a valid observation. A truth, if you will.
Mar 15, 2013, 1:26 PM
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your point is just silly.
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You're pitiful...Least you could have done was admit it...
Mar 15, 2013, 1:41 PM
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What a coward...Takes a shot and won't cop when he's called on it...
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You should go to Chuck E Cheese and celebrate your victory!***
Mar 15, 2013, 1:48 PM
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And you shouldn't take shots if you're not going to stand by
Mar 15, 2013, 3:24 PM
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them...
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I do stand behind what I said.
Mar 15, 2013, 5:20 PM
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If anything is clear from this thread, it is that.
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Miami and South Florida.***
Mar 15, 2013, 12:34 PM
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Im not surprised at al.. he cant recruit and its showing..***
Mar 15, 2013, 1:08 PM
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Oh, so the braintrust weighed in...Or have you been hacked?
Mar 15, 2013, 1:10 PM
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Again...
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