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TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:20 AM
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It sounds like Dave Doeren was in on that conversation.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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“Anonymous” ACC coaches speak .. no ballz to put your name to your words? You hire from within and it doesn’t work so you look outside. Sour grapes, these coaches need to go back into hiding. Line ‘em up - Go Tigers !!!
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 12:13 PM
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Agreed. Just like with Napier.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 6:22 PM
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Why don’t you just skip past the put up and go ahead and shut up!
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You gotta love “anonymous coach” … somehow I picture this
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:22 AM
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… this guy as a blacked out silhouette with his voice altered like some mob informant.
Then suddenly someone accidentally turns on the lights and there sits a wide-eyed, startled Dave Doeren.
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Re: You gotta love “anonymous coach” … somehow I picture this
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:34 AM
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Yeah somehow Doren fits in this case. Lol!
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Ain't Nobody But Daisy Doreen of NCSU; But who cares.....
Aug 2, 2023, 2:20 PM
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Lots of noise for nothing really. I read those comments in the magazine and thought; "is that why you lost out on the ACC title because Clemson wasn't threatening on that side of the ball or b/c there was only one reliable playmaker"? I mean, "what does that say about YOUR program if that's the case then"?
Just noise. Go play ball and get it done on the field and things will fall in line.
Time for talk is thankfully almost over.
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National Champion [8071]
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Reporter Making Up Stuff.. .. for hits/clicks/subscriptions
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Aug 2, 2023, 2:40 PM
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This very well could all be false as some other posters have pointed out.
Irresponsible journalism is so dangerous.
If you can get everybody riled up(similar to the kid at school that never fought; but always was in the middle of conflicts - the fight promotor). They can cover bigger stories and make juicier headlines leading up to or following a game when emotions and feelings get involved.
Best to just go out and "DOMINATE"! That way, if it is true they can proceed with their tail between their legs as they spew that nonsense.
If it's 100% fabricated and what some writer assumes coaches would say or paraphrasing a coach - "it's just bravo sierra"!
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Re: Reporter Making Up Stuff.. .. for hits/clicks/subscriptions
Aug 2, 2023, 3:13 PM
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The old “let’s you and him go fight”. Spot on.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:25 AM
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Well we don't care . Just line up and beat them.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:26 AM
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Smacks of sour grapes. Can’t beat ‘em so you bash em.
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National Champion [7999]
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:29 AM
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This has a sad wet wolf pup smell to it…
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:30 AM
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Hilarious. Guarantee you it is always Dave Doeren
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:36 AM
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One way to stop this nonsense. Beat Duke 45 - 7 (Playing the bench)!
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 2:58 PM
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Shut-Out! We too deep on Defense!
Go Tigers, Whoop Dook!
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Color us all shocked that they remained anonymous and
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:39 AM
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didn't say that while giving their names. lol
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Well, I got on her to say ....
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:45 AM
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... Dave Dorien but apparently everyone knew that
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NCSU coach, guaranteed.
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:48 AM
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Nm
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:49 AM
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Question the "Family" because we changed coaches is a reach. They are not looking at the totality of the Family only the one change they can target.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 12:15 PM
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Exactly!
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National Champion [7838]
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 10:58 AM
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The comment about our lack of skill players is accurate. But I have a feeling our WRs will look a lot better this year.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 1:29 PM
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God, I hope so!
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If ya can’t beat ‘em, then criticize them and make excuses.***
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 11:05 AM
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Family as part of the culture is very real at Clemson but so is accountability...
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Anonymous coach sounds jealous ... and scared.***
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Aug 2, 2023, 11:10 AM
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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I love the criticism of Dabo's hiring outside the family, when the past few years the criticism was for hiring within the family.
I'm glad talking season is almost over.
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Rival Killer [2879]
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That's why Dabo doesn't listen to critics
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Aug 2, 2023, 11:23 AM
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No matter what he does, he'll be criticized.
That's also why he's a great leader. He only listens to wise counsel.
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We're missing the point is all
Aug 2, 2023, 1:29 PM
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Look DABO was from out of the family----an Alabama realtor with no head coaching experience.
And he failed! But we stuck by him anyway.
The point seemed to be more about how it's simply not the recruiting advantage it once was for Clemson saying it's us-against-the-world. Is it a big difference? Culturally, maybe. Does it matter in recruiting for OUR success?
It doesn't. We CAN handle this stuff, I sincerely believe it, just not accidentally is all.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 11:20 AM
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I don't have an issue with any of that especially the game with Duke being huge. We have to go to Durham and play a complete and let the ACC and nation know that we are still THE Team to beat in the conference.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 11:25 AM
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Lol anonymous but we all know it's DD & PN. Go Tigers!!!!
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 11:26 AM
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Definitely smells of Doeren or Narduzzi at Pitt!!
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Funny how Dave Doeren...
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Aug 2, 2023, 11:28 AM
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...is the universal, first one that pops in the head that would say that. Exactly something that clown would say.
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As a 47 yr veteran of the press…
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Aug 2, 2023, 11:29 AM
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… I, nor any of my associates, would write an entire article based on (much titled) anonymous sources. Most of the time, it’s a biased reporter asking and answering his own narrative. As readers, please never believe for one second anything you read adjacent to “an anonymous source.” It’s chicken p00p journalism at best.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102421]
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OP-EDs draw as much attention as fact sheets these days.
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Aug 2, 2023, 12:55 PM
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Football articles are just as popular during the off season as anything. It can be an obvious lie and many will read it anyway.
The only news I hear is here except for a small org publication called The Pour Over. It's a Christian site which hits my email once a day and never blast me with constant links to their articles. If there's any sort of spin I haven't detected it. I believe you would like it because it's so different and condensed.
https://ref.thepourover.org/b8525c58/
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Re: As a 47 yr veteran of the press…
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I’m thinking these “anonymous sources” are just reporters making shitz up. I can never see Dabo participating in that type of conversation.
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Re: As a 47 yr veteran of the press…
Aug 2, 2023, 8:13 PM
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The quotes are from assistant coaches.
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There’s no reason to doubt this stuff
Aug 2, 2023, 8:11 PM
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Athlon does it for every team, and they’ve been doing it for years.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Streeter Clemson:
GA 2004-05
QB and Recruiting coordinator 2014-2021 @$250k/yr
OC 2021-2022 @$900k a year and a payout of $1.85M at termination
All of this while living in Clemson, SC eating free food most days and getting most of his clothing for free as well. I wish my family had been as nice to me in my adult years…
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What about as a player?
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Aug 2, 2023, 1:27 PM
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Don't forget, Streeter was a great player for Clemson. Some of us are old enough to remember him here, even.
He famously played in a game to help us win with a broken arm. The guy kinda literally bled orange, which is why Coach Swinney has been explicit about keeping him if he wasn't able to hire Riley away sight-unseen.
It's OK to hire new guys; after all, Coach Swinney was an Alabama realtor with no experience as a head coach. THANK GOD we didn't fire him after year 1 (or 2, 3 or 4, for that matter).
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Re: What about as a player?
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Streeter would still be our OC if he benched DJ5 at halftime of the coot game.
Clemson wins, Cade starts the UNC game, and we make the playoff.
Streeter had to make that move to keep his job, and he didn't.
If he called a better game, putting TD's on the scoreboard against Tennessee, and winning, he would still be here.
In clutch time he did not adapt in those two games, and it cost him his job.
I was really pulling for him to be successful, but it didn't work out. That's life....
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Maybe!
Aug 2, 2023, 3:59 PM
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Maybe?
I guess my thing is Coach Swinney has said so many times this summer he was never going to even consider replacing Coach Streeter this year if not for one single person agreeing to take the job: Garret Riley
The part that's unique is they hadn't even met before the offer was ready, & that's OK; it's simply a change is all, like, OK, maybe it's more like the traditional big guys, but that clearly also has its advantages when you can get the top-rated OC as a result.
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Cowards...
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Speaks a lot to his program.
Go Tigers!!!
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Seems tame and mild. I just want Finebaum love.
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Aug 2, 2023, 12:05 PM
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And maybe a little side Klatt action.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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I miss Paul Johnson. We always knew his “anonymous” quotes.
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Two words - SOUR GRAPES.*
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qqqqq
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 12:33 PM
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Every year they publish these, Dave is always who comes to mind.
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Since when does replacing a staff member...
Aug 2, 2023, 12:37 PM
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Who isn't performing to the "standard" mean our "family" culture is bogus? How you go about says more about the family culture he was handled with.
If Dabo knew he was over his head and left him there a few more years, wouldn't that jeopardize Dabo & Clemson's "best is standard" being bogus too?
As far as my guess of acc coaches making these comments, I'd say Dave Dorian, Pat Narduzzi, and maybe BC's new coach from Ryan Days buckets staff...any one else being negative toward Clemson would probably be the beginning signs of our upcoming exit from ACC.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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All these ACC coaches should know Clemson is about family, Dabo is all of em's DADDY!
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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And still year after year our Clemson family cuts all your ##### and wins the title. It's hard being on top and staying sharp when all we have to play are a bunch of D3 level schools. Must really suck to be Dave Doorknob!
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Aug 2, 2023, 12:53 PM
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anonymous comments. It gives us a much better understanding of what they really think. That wouldn’t possibly be as Frank with their names attached. And of course they have to question our strengths. It’s the only hope they have.
Now all we have to do is go out on the field and win. Easy-peasy. Go Tigers.
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I wonder how much of it is propaganda trying to mislead
Aug 2, 2023, 1:24 PM
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recruits?
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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What is he supposed to do? Let his coordinator run his program into the ground for the sake of "keeping it in the family"?
Dabo continues to do things the right way but animosity runs deep in this conference with some of these other HC's
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It's changed, & that's OK
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Look, the culture here at Clemson HAS changed. And that's OK! Unprecedented success will do that. It's still inherently special, make no mistake. How much you change & what direction you change in is what matters most.
But it's also OK to say things have changed rather than insist they haven't.
We hired a realtor from Alabama to be a first-time head coach here named Dabo Swinney.
He pretty much failed, & for several years in a row.
BUT we stuck by him. In fact, we were explicitly vocal in supporting him, & for years in spite of his inability to beat our rival or win the league, & we stood up for it & for our Coach (OK, I know not everyone did but largely it defined Clemson nation then, for sure).
It is OK things have changed to where we are OK to fire a guy after just 1 year who bled orange for decades to instead hire a coach with zero Clemson ties sight-unseen from a relatively chance encounter at an annual coaches meeting (even in spite of Coach Swinney saying he would have kept Streeter if we hadn't been able to immediately hire Riley the day they met).
For example, we also make room on the staff for guys like Tajh Boyd, CJ Spiller & more. Clemson is unique, but it's OK to recognize things have changed from being exclusively fighting for family as much as we did before, & THANK GOD we kept Coach Swinney through all that went on in his first 4 years in particular rather than switching to someone else. Love Dabo, always!
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Re: It's changed, & that's OK
Aug 2, 2023, 1:25 PM
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Haters always gonna hate
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It's both, & that's OK
Aug 2, 2023, 1:45 PM
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It's both, isn't it?
Look at Coach Venables; he was ALWAYS Oklahoma for life, but his time at Clemson made him family, & now WE have been vocal about supporting him & his wife & their family en masse in the fight against her cancer diagnosis.
We haven't done nearly that for Coach Streeter in spite of his decades of commitment to Clemson as a player, leader & coach (I'd argue it's the opposite as many fans literally hate him now), & I don't love that, & it IS different is all, compared to how we so vocally stuck up for an inexperienced realtor from Alabama in his first few bad years in his first head coaching job here at Clemson.
Then we replace him with a guy Coach Swinney just met & with no Clemson ties outright. And that's OK!
At the same time, we still hire guys like Tajh Boyd, CJ Spiller, Nick Eason & more from the family.
It's NOT the same recruiting advantage it once was seems to be the point of the statement, & he KINDA has a point.
Problem is Clemson is now recruiting even better so the entire point seems moot. Yes, Clemson's culture has changed, but results matter, too, straight up, & that's OK.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Athlon has quotes from anonymous coaches every year and it quotes coach(es). None would use their name.
DD is probably one but I don't think he's by himself.
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"If you luv yer family how come ya din't marry yer sister!?"
Aug 2, 2023, 1:48 PM
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DUR HUR!
What a moron.
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Solid Orange [1393]
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 1:56 PM
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Called jealousy
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 5:49 PM
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I agree.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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If you running a business and got a family member dragging it down and not getting Job done you have to cut them loose no matter if it hurts
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 2:15 PM
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Agreed.
Except for Coach Swinney. Those first few years were rough (but to your point he wasn't really family).
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110%er [3696]
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 2:04 PM
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The two most obvious candidates are Doreen and little man Hafley. This coach is obviously cheesed we win all the recruiting battles against them so process of elimination is Doreen, Cristobal, or Norvell. Hafley doesn’t compete with us for recruits. UConn maybe. Not us.
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Top TigerNet [31946]
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"Offensively, let’s see how much of the TCU stuff goes in and how much he’s calling it,"
Aug 2, 2023, 3:16 PM
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Umm.....
Dabo let Chad Morris call the offense.....
🙄🙄🙄
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Orange Blooded [2490]
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
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Aug 2, 2023, 3:36 PM
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Odds on favorites to say this crapola...you guys named the usual suspects. With some crazy odds, I will bet Dabo said these things to fire up his young men and have something else to put on the board. Even money hecks no, but 1 dollar bet to win a hundo, why not?
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Rival Killer [2781]
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Re: TNET: The answer to this
Aug 2, 2023, 5:22 PM
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will be the Tigers play this year. No better way to shut folks up than to mash them in the mouth......repeatedly..... from start to finish.
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 5:48 PM
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I don't give a rats ash what Anne Anonymous thinks.
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Tiger Spirit [9788]
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 6:06 PM
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Bless her heart.
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Freshman [0]
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Re: TNET: Anonymous ACC coaches question Clemson 'family,' new offense impact
Aug 2, 2023, 9:00 PM
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Please play merciless this year. If you’re up by 21 make it 28 and keep going.
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