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Orange Beast [6464]
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FSU may be pretty good
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Jul 27, 2025, 10:31 PM
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I’ve said it before, Dj made an already expected down year even worse. I think it was definitely going to be a down year in 2024 with Jordan Travis leaving, but then on top of that DJ was taken in. And he made it worse. Norvell hired Gus Malzahn at OC and and a new DC. He brought in Castellanos from BC, who really is a decent QB. He really is mobile and slippery.
I think it’s all about the trenches. They desperately need to pick that up. That seems to a recurring pattern with Florida State. Bad O-line play.
I just get the feeling Norvell isn’t an idiot and he knows what he’s doing. And yes, it pains me to say that.
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Hall of Famer [8768]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
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Jul 27, 2025, 10:35 PM
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Feels like 8-4 is their ceiling.
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Reasonable guess.
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Jul 28, 2025, 7:04 AM
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Vegas has the over/under at 7.5. I think 8-4 is the most logical guess, with 7-5 being more likely than 9-3.
Optimistically, I think 9-3 is the ceiling. But, a ceiling is something you seldom reach.
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Ring of Honor [22803]
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Re: Reasonable guess.
Jul 28, 2025, 9:43 AM
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Vegas has the over/under at 7.5. I think 8-4 is the most logical guess, with 7-5 being more likely than 9-3.
Optimistically, I think 9-3 is the ceiling. But, a ceiling is something you seldom reach.
7-5 and under and Norvell won't be back...
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All-TigerNet [5890]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
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Jul 27, 2025, 10:38 PM
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after what DJU did to ND in their house during the covid year when TL got covid, there has to be an ESPN 30 for 30 on what in the heck ever happened to that guy..
was it the parent's divorce? Was it the Bojangles NIL deal that made him put on a few pounds??
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Hall of Famer [9088]
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Re: Truly Bizarre Contrast ---
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Jul 27, 2025, 11:36 PM
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Had all year to gear up and prepare for Georgia that next year....and he stood in that pocket like an ancient statue holding the football. Then he was Stay Puft Marshmallow Man for the rest of the season after that. At that Notre Dame Game... even in a loss he was a precise assassin. WTH??????
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Ultimate Tiger [35937]
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ND had to focus on Etienne. They were willing to let DJU beat them
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Jul 27, 2025, 11:41 PM
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and he nearly did. When they started to pressure him in OT, he crumbled.
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National Champion [8013]
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Thats revisionist history- DJU was great that game and set the all time passing
Jul 29, 2025, 12:06 AM
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yards record for a QB at ND stadium.
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Paw Warrior [4700]
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Re: Truly Bizarre Contrast ---
Jul 29, 2025, 7:04 AM
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He had receivers in that ND game. He never had receivers after that.
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Heisman Winner [87657]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
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Jul 28, 2025, 1:08 AM
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The pick 6 against Georgia broke him mentally.
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National Champion [7958]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 29, 2025, 1:16 PM
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That one play started out decent. We have started back up in my opinion but will have to use the portal the most ever for our 2026 team or we could get embarrassed.
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Clemson Conqueror [11910]
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Jul 28, 2025, 10:57 AM
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Notre Dame pretty much figured him out in OT. Blitz the house and he’s toast.
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Campus Hero [13778]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
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Jul 28, 2025, 12:01 PM
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Exactly .... the ND Blitz and the Georgia game pretty much was something he never overcame.
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Tiger Titan [51082]
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The 30 for 30 would be a 30 second production.
Jul 28, 2025, 12:07 PM
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"ND was a limited exception to what Clemson, OSU, and FSU would later learn: He's just not that great. The end."
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Standout [-93]
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Jul 28, 2025, 12:15 PM
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He was smoking way too much ganja at Clemson
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Gridiron Giant [15983]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 28, 2025, 10:57 PM
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I often SERIOUSLY wondered if he was sandbagging to make $$ on betting, via proxy of course. Later I realized he was lazy, believed the hype about him and had zero preparation.
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Ring of Honor [23125]
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As many as not have divorced or never-married parents
Jul 29, 2025, 8:06 AM
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My two cents ... Spending of at-the-time generous NIL funds, complete lack of coaching & development, and immaturity and lack of discipline leading to massive weight gain.
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Heisman Winner [83829]
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Say and one more time, you incipit coot.***
Jul 27, 2025, 11:39 PM
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Rival Killer [2998]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 27, 2025, 11:49 PM
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I know Norvell is an idiot and he doesn’t know what he’s doing. It does not pain me to say that.
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Game Changer [1945]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 27, 2025, 11:50 PM
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Now there are more teams that Malzahn has NOT coached for than he has coached for
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Top TigerNet [32043]
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My very simple anaylsis of FSU.
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Jul 28, 2025, 7:01 AM
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The coaching talent has been upgraded SIGNIFICANTLY. If it hasn't, then FSU is in trouble and Norvell will soon be sking Jimmy Sexton to find him another job.
The talent is not 2-10 bad, but it is also not 10-2 good either. The 13-0 season was in spite of the coaching, not because of the coaching. If FSU goes 9-3 this year it will be because of the coaching more more than because of the talent. Example: FSU will have at most one guy (DT, Darrell Jackson) on first team ACC. Probably only have 4 or 5 2nd or 3rd team list.
The OL line will be better. 5 new starters, all transfers from P4 teams who were starters on the team they transferred from. They will be far better coached, for sure. But, how soon can they gel, and how soon will they buy in to Herb Hand (the OL coach)?
The defense will be more agressive and physical than last year, but that is a low bar to clear. The common word used to describe last year was "soft." And, that is an underestimate. The 13-0 team had 5 guys drafted and, I think, all 5 are still on a NDL roster now. Jared Verse and Braden Fiske covered up a world of sin for that defense. (Just go watch the ACC championship game and see how those two guys dismantled the Louisville offense.)
The journey of a 1000 miles begins with a single step. The journey back from 2-10 is a long journey. It won't be completed in 1 year. But, this year better be a good start down that road or Norvell is in trouble.
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Orange Beast [6464]
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Re: My very simple anaylsis of FSU.
Jul 28, 2025, 10:22 PM
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I think pairing Gus Malzahn along with Thomas Castellanos will play out very well. And ironically, you more than most people should know about what Malzahn did with Nick Marshall. Because of the scare they gave you in 2013. I think Malzahn ought to try and use Castellanos similarly, as I see similarity to Nick Marshall in the way Castellanos plays. Gus is at the very backend though. He said he was going to retire if not for this job. We’ll see about that.
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Game Changer [2043]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 28, 2025, 7:18 AM
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I don't like how Norvell has been fire and brimstone at the podium, seems like he has a young team that he needs to motivate.
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Tiger Spirit [9595]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
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Jul 28, 2025, 7:23 AM
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Norvell has been a bad coach whose teams were less than the sum of their parts every season at FSU, other than the one where he caught lightning in a bottle. Odds are they underperform again this season.
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All-In [11086]
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FSU last year had the best defensive front in all of college football
Jul 28, 2025, 8:07 AM
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it was a unanimous perspective shared by everyone
the 2024 Florida State defense was pre season goated
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 28, 2025, 9:36 AM
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7-5 with losses to Bama, Miami, Clemson and Florida and one loss they should win VT or NCSU.
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Paw Warrior [5047]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 28, 2025, 11:57 AM
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When you bring in basically a new team every year it's hard to predict results.
You just have to hit on a LOT of the chances you take to be really good.
One question is why you think a coaching staff that thought DJ was the answer has started evaluating better.
He wasn't a likely success that just missed. We all knew he was going to be a dumpster fire and so did anyone who watched him at Clemson or at Oregon State.
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Mascot [27]
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Jul 28, 2025, 1:18 PM
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FSU has to open with Bama, play Clemson and Miami (all preseason ranked top 10 or so) and Florida...an 8 win season would be a triumph for this rebuilding team.
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You dont go 2-10 if youre not an idiot***
Jul 28, 2025, 2:05 PM
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Heisman Winner [83829]
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So, basically,
Jul 28, 2025, 11:41 PM
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Blah, blah, blah, your message bored opinion is the same coach you're saying knows what he's doing recruited DJ to his third failed team as a QB1. Got it.
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Paw Warrior [4700]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 29, 2025, 7:03 AM
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DJ was the best player on that offense. They had no receivers, no running backs, and a putrid offensive line.
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Jul 29, 2025, 7:11 AM
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No. Norvell is an idiot and doesn’t know what he’s doing. Have you ever listen to the guy talk?
He caught lightning in a bottle in 2023 and still would’ve gotten destroyed in the playoff with Jordan Travis.
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 29, 2025, 1:13 PM
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Novell sees new BC QB as being similar to Jordan Travis. Hope that does not happen.
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Mascot [27]
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Jul 29, 2025, 8:37 PM
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From Jordan Travis Bio....
2023
Started season’s first 11 games before season-ending injury…was 207-for-324 passing for 2,756 yards with 20 touchdowns and only two interceptions…added 176 yards and seven touchdowns rushing…ACC Player of the Year…ACC Offensive Player of the Year…finished fifth in Heisman Trophy voting…eighth player in program history to finish in top-five of Heisman vote and first since Jameis Winston in 2013…Manning Award finalist…semifinalist for Walter Camp Player of the Year, Maxwell Award, Davey O’Brien Award and Jason Witten Man of the Year…Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award Top 10…Davey O’Brien Award QB Class of 2023…first-team All-ACC…FSU Offensive Player of the Year…one of two players nationally with at least 20 touchdown passes and two or fewer interceptions thrown…led ACC and ranked 21st nationally with pass efficiency rating of 154.5…first player to lead ACC in pass efficiency in back-to-back seasons since 2021 No. 1 overall NFL Draft pick Trevor Lawrence in 2018-19…led ACC and ranked 22nd nationally with average of 8.51 yards per pass attempt…ranked second in ACC and 23rd nationally with average of 13.31 yards per completion…average of 250.5 passing yards per game was second in conference…ranked third in ACC and 22nd nationally with average of 14.7 points responsible for per game…average of 266.5 yards of total offense per game was third-best in ACC…completion percentage of 63.9 ranked third in ACC, and average of 18.8 completions per game was fourth-best in conference…produced streak of 184 passes without interception that was fifth-longest in FSU history and 13th-longest in ACC history…opened season 23-for-31 passing for 342 yards and career-high four touchdowns while adding 38 yards and one rushing score in 45-24 victory vs. No. 5 LSU…registered 99.9 ESPN QBR in second half vs. Tigers, highest rating in any half nationally against ranked opponent since 2013…only player nationally with at least four touchdown passes and at least one touchdown run against top-5 opponent in past 10 regular seasons…named ACC Quarterback of the Week, Maxwell Award Player of the Week Manning Award Star of the Week and Davey O’Brien Award Great 8 for his performance vs. Tigers…recorded career-high-tying 27 completions for 268 yards and two touchdowns while adding 62 rushing yards and one touchdown in 38-20 win vs. No. 16 Duke…broke FSU’s career total offense record on go-ahead touchdown run in fourth quarter vs. Blue Devils…named Davey O’Brien Award National Quarterback of the Week and ACC Quarterback of the Week for his performance vs. Duke…was 21-for-37 passing for 289 yards and two touchdowns with one rushing score in 31-24 victory at Clemson…second touchdown pass was game-winning score in overtime and broke FSU’s career touchdown responsibility record…named Manning Award Star of the Week and Davey O’Brien Award Great 8 after his performance at Tigers…despite missing two All-ACC receivers, passed for season-high 360 yards and one touchdown on 22 completions while adding rushing touchdown in 24-7 win at Pitt…named ACC Quarterback of the Week for his performance at Panthers…registered season-high 388 yards of total offense in 41-16 win at Wake Forest…was 22-of-35 passing for 359 yards and three touchdowns while adding 29 yards and one touchdown rushing…passing yards total at Demon Deacons included career-long 80-yard touchdown…named ACC Quarterback of the Week, Manning Award Star of the Week and Davey O’Brien Award Great 8 following his performance at Wake Forest…was 19-of-31 passing for 265 yards and one touchdown in 27-20 victory vs. Miami…first FSU quarterback to start in three victories vs. Hurricanes…was 23-of-37 passing for 284 yards and one touchdown and added two rushing touchdowns in 41-3 win vs. Syracuse…posted seventh career game with multiple rushing touchdowns…was 15-of-24 passing for 223 yards and two touchdowns while adding 38 rushing yards in 31-29 win at Boston College…completed 15 passes for 175 yards and two touchdowns with 20 rushing yards in 66-13 win vs. Southern Miss…was 18-of-24 passing for 170 yards and two touchdowns with 25 rushing yards in 39-17 win vs. Virginia Tech…completed two passes for 21 yards and had 16-yard rush in 58-13 win vs. North Alabama.
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Rival Killer [2998]
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Re: FSU may be pretty good
Jul 29, 2025, 8:50 PM
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You are smoking really bad bad stuff. FSU gonna suck this year.
Sounds like you’re saying they are going to be good because they no longer have DJ. That’s fabulous logic.
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Gridiron Giant [15609]
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What is pretty good? 7 wins?***
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