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Talk me out of voting Haley
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Jan 25, 2024, 11:37 PM
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Two time Trumper, now thouroughly disgusted with the man.
But Nikki IS 'the man' they say; Warmonger, Social Security raider, Establishment, Inc, open borders, etc...
But Nikki ain't batshite sociopath like Trump, and she ain't dementia-fogged corrupt like Biden, so give me one good reason not to vote for her.
Heck, give me two. I'm all ears.
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You are making the right decision. Vote Haley.***
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Which of Trumps policies disgust you?***
Jan 26, 2024, 5:01 AM
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My guess is his policy of ignoring democracy and not
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Jan 26, 2024, 6:11 AM
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believing that he has to uphold and follow the constitution.
“This allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution.” -DJT
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Can you point me to that EO or bill?***
Jan 26, 2024, 6:49 AM
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Re: Can you point me to that EO or bill?***
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Jan 26, 2024, 3:08 PM
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Clearly, Trump made an impulsive statement, his justification for advocating for terminating ONE PART OF THE CONSTITUTION … if indeed a part of the Constitution codified this … was that no stolen presidential election should be allowed to stand unchallenged simply because going through the lengthy legal process to challenge the election and the bad actors who participated in the fraudulent election could not be indicted, tried, and convicted before the new (fraudulently elected) president was sworn in.
He’s got a point, as far as our laws having never made provision to redress election fraud, but his anger about Team Biden getting away with election fraud (even though it is not known whether an honestly thorough investigation would have led to. Trump win, ow whether Biden would have on anyways).
However, like it or not, The Constitution does not allow for an after-the-fact (by that, I mean after the new president had been sworn in) unseating of the fraudulently elected president.
That Trump didn’t persist in advocating to terminate THAT ONE PART OF THE CONSTITUTION that allowed stolen elections to stand shows that, once his anger had subsided, he knew that The Constitution is not a perfect document, and that our founding fathers recognized this. Thus, our founding fathers established a methodical process through which The Constitution could be modified (Amendments) to address matters which the founding fathers didn’t foresee.
Here is where your hatred of Trump has blinded you.
Trump spoke (words, not actions) about ONE PART of The Constitution that he didn’t like, and wanted changed or removed. Words only.
Nikki has advocated for the removal of anonymous free speech. Words, no actions, from Nikki. BTW, Ben Franklin and John Adams, among other prominent men during the time of America’s founding, frequently wrote anonymous letters that were published and made available to the public. (Franklin & Adams were justifiably scared of retribution from the English rulers; England had no such right for citizens to exercise free speech if that speech was critical of the government). Nikki’s words, probably made carelessly (they couldn’t have been made in the same vein of outrage as had Trump, who was aggrieved by the fraudulent election), suggested that the First Amendment meant little to her. The good news, to my understanding, is that, after she got blasted for this, one of her handlers told her that her ‘no anonymous messages on the Internet’ recommendation was an affront to the First Amendment. Thereafter, Nikki … again to my understanding … has cooled it as far as comments that collide with the First Amendment.
Much bigger is that the current OBiden Handlers Administration has blatantly flaunted The Constitution. Not by words, but by actions. Biden’s initiative to forgive student loans and transfer that burden to the American taxpayer was struck down by The Supreme Court. OBiden Handlers Admin has simply ignored the SCOTUS order and continues to set up the payment of student loans.
The Constitution has the three co-equal branches of government: Executive (president), Legislative (Congress),& Judicial (Supreme Court). However, the Executive branch controls the power to deploy the military and FBI (also, the CIA and DoJ); therefore, our OBiden ecevutive branch has, in effect, t9ld the judicial branch to 'try it … make me stop.'
Executive branch is charged with enforcing laws. OBiden admin executive branch chooses to not enforce numerous laws, including not interfering with or pushing political objectives into the activities of law enforcement FBI), Justice (DoJ), and Tax collections (IRS) departments. As we've seen with the Hunter Biden stuff, the OBiden admin Executive branch has deeply insinuatef itself into the leadership decionmaking forbeach of thevFBI, DoJ, and IRS.
(*). So, what's worse? Talk about changing / doing away with part of The Constitution, followed by backing away from that talk (i.e., the Trump & Nikki thing), or Deeds (with out any talk) to ignore The Constitution and simply use the federal government departments for the furtherment of political objectives?
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Re: Which of Trumps policies disgust you?***
Jan 28, 2024, 10:54 PM
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Apologies for ganking this back top, but after two days of Covid induced zombitude, I'd like to respond to Keowee at least, since he was first to reply and a known Trumper:
I agree with most all of Trump's policies, especially as regards foreign relations and the border, but the man himself is an intolerable #####. So many opportunities he's had to show graciousness, especially in victory, but again and again he's proved not to have a thimble-full of grace in him. After winning New Hampshire, he could have taken the podium and thanked Haley for a well-fought campaign, and maybe even invited her into the fold, but instead, he ridicules the dress she wore and calls her 'birdbrain'.
Birdbrain!
HIS freakin' UN Ambassador!
No way can I vote for such a petulant old child. Not again.
*fist bump to Cata for pointing out nobody can point out how Nikki's a warmonger.
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Re: Talk me out of voting Haley
Jan 26, 2024, 6:03 AM
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She's a woman
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I also highly suspect she has a vagin@.***
Jan 26, 2024, 9:07 AM
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Re: I also highly suspect she has a vagin@.***
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Re: Talk me out of voting Haley
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Jan 26, 2024, 7:32 AM
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Nikki is my man. I am voting for her.
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Nah. Stay the course.
Jan 26, 2024, 7:37 AM
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But I'm curious why people call her a warmonger? You're not the first person I've heard say this. What wars did Haley contribute to?
She doesn't favor open borders at all.
And if we wanna talk about someone who can get some jobs going with industry...
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Re: Nah. Stay the course.
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It’s just the MAGA slur-du-jour, that and “globalist” since right wing twitter has gone all-in on new world order conspiracies. I saw someone refer to Haley as a “corporatist” because of the industry she helped SC land, as if we’re now supposed to be opposed to manufacturing jobs and economic production.
It’s just low-effort mental gymnastics to justify supporting their lord and savior Donald Trump, it’s not that complicated.
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Re: Nah. Stay the course.
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Jan 26, 2024, 9:59 AM
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I saw someone refer to Haley as a “corporatist” because of the industry she helped SC land, as if we’re now supposed to be opposed to manufacturing jobs and economic production.
Anyone who doesn't recognize the benefit she brought to SC for industry and jobs and how that would translate on a national level is truly clueless about the economy. But then again, the MAGA folk don't really get how important this is. Better focus on hatin' some illegals!
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How is Nikki a warmonger or for open borders?***
Jan 26, 2024, 7:45 AM
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She isn't***
Jan 26, 2024, 11:45 AM
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I'm voting for Haley. Only drawback from here for me is the SS thing
Jan 26, 2024, 8:04 AM
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but luckily a President can't change the age of SS. Congress does. (I think)
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Re: I'm voting for Haley. Only drawback from here for me is the SS thing
Jan 26, 2024, 9:58 AM
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Frankly that’s one of the biggest reasons I support her, she’s the only one honest enough to acknowledge that you can’t address fiscal solvency without tackling entitlements.
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It's definitely needed. I just don't like it
Jan 26, 2024, 10:01 AM
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Agreed, but there are other ways to do that.
Jan 26, 2024, 10:54 AM
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There are A LOT of people on SS that shouldn't be.
I have 2 people down the street in their mid 40's from me that are on "disability", but have (2) new huge Ford F250's in their front yard. I see him in his yard weekly cutting firewood, or working in his car trailer that he carries his golf cart and side by side around on.
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It's been some time since I've looked into it...
Jan 26, 2024, 11:49 AM
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for myself, but I don't think the Soc Sec Disability Benefits part of the program is the problem in terms of long-term solvency. I'm not saying we shouldn't crack down on those wrongly on disability, but that's not going to solve the problem for the Soc Sec Retirement side.
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Are those not the same "bucket"?
Jan 26, 2024, 12:08 PM
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I've got to admit that I've never looked into it. I always assumed that SS/OASDI expenditures were just SS/OASDI expenditures.
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You beat me to a response...
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Jan 26, 2024, 4:32 PM
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but yeah...the non-retirement part of SS is part of the main budget.
It's the SS Trust Fund that funds the retirement part that is in trouble.
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Holy crap..SSDI benefits aren't taxable.
Jan 26, 2024, 4:48 PM
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I looked it up and I would net a little more than 1/2 of what I bring home now if I went on disability.
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Re: You are correct. I looked it up.
Jan 29, 2024, 3:49 PM
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The long-term disability he has through the police union likely guarantees some portion of his income when he became disabled, typically 50%-75% going by my non-police policy, but police might be and should be higher. But the catch with that type of disability policy is that it is applied "after" SS disability and any other supplements. So he gets a SS disability check and other benefits, then the disability policy from his job adds to that to bring it to whatever the policy level is. It wouldn't be 3X paychecks - it's a combination of benefits that brings him up to some percentage of one paycheck. I don't know how the pension counts in his case, but per my policy it would decrease the disability policy benefit.
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I have no idea.
Jan 29, 2024, 4:42 PM
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All I do know is that he said he is 'disabled'...whatever that means, younger than me, has 2 new F250's in his yard, and doesn't work.
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Re: I looked at how much I would get per month on SS Disability
Jan 29, 2024, 3:57 PM
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Depends on the work you do, whether that would count for disability or not.
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Re: Talk me out of voting Haley
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She has my vote. We need someone that's an adult and someone whose mind is not a vegetable.
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She doesn't move her teeth when she talks.
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Jan 26, 2024, 8:22 AM
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Creeps me out, man.
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Im voting Haley
Jan 26, 2024, 8:46 AM
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And everyone else should nut up and do it too.
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I'm going to switch over and vote for Phillips in the Dem primary
Jan 26, 2024, 8:52 AM
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A vote for Haley in the primary is like voting for the Dem candidate in the national election in SC - it's not going to mean much since Trump is going to roll Haley in the primary.
I'll hold my nose and vote Pub in the national, unless by some miracle RFK Jr or Phillips get anywhere in the polls before the election...
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So you don't want to vote for someone like a Dem.
Jan 26, 2024, 9:07 AM
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Unless you have the option to vote for a literal dem?
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I'm just hedging bets - there is zero chance that Trump isn't the Pub
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Jan 26, 2024, 10:31 AM
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candidate, barring death or jail. Much more likely chance that someone else like Phillips could replace Biden. No real chance for RFK Jr as an independent, and he probably ends up siphoning more Pub and independent votes than Dem votes.
I don't really think Trump can get the votes in the national election at this point, so if I can help get someone other than Biden and Harris in the White House for four years, I think a vote for Phillips is more helpful than a vote for Haley in the primaries. Just my opinion...
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Welp. I respect the thought you've put into this.***
Jan 26, 2024, 10:33 AM
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Do you realize that all of these polls were BEFORE the NH primary and
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Jan 26, 2024, 2:12 PM
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before DeSantis dropped out, and most of the polls noted were when the field was pretty well flooded with GOP candidates?
Poll results WILL change when the next round, post-NH, is done. Trump won't have nearly the same lead he had back when there was a full field of challengers.
He'll find himself with a single or low double-digit lead and he'll continue his melt-down and put-downs and that'll do nothing but drive more voters to Haley, which will perpetuate the cycle.
VOTE FOR HALEY! If all of us who don't want to see Trump in the general do that, regardless of what polls say, then it can happen.
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Re: Do you realize that all of these polls were BEFORE the NH primary and
Jan 26, 2024, 4:17 PM
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Something to consider: No candidate has gone on to win the presidency after having lost an SC primary, in either party, ever. At least in that same election cycle. We're kind of a big deal in that distinction.
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Re: I'm going to switch over and vote for Phillips in the Dem primary
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The GOP is currently infected with cowardice and appeasement. Never thought I'd live to see the day that Democrats had bigger balls than Republicans.
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Re: I'm going to switch over and vote for Phillips in the Dem primary
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If it comes down to Biden vs Trump, I’m voting for the Libertarian (that’s what I did last election) or I’ll just sit it out.
I can’t, in good conscience, vote for either of those two clowns.
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Re: Talk me out of voting Haley
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Here's a solid reason. She's a RINO unlike DJT who has switched his party affiliation at least 5 times.
He registered as a Republican in 1987, joined the Independence Party in 1999, became a Democrat in 2001 where he remained for 8 years, became a Republican again in 2009, then became unaffiliated in Dec 2011.
In April 2012, he rejoined the GOP.
Do NOT vote for a RINO like Nikki Haley. Vote for Trump a true conservative and rock ribbed Republican.
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RINO actually means
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"not a 100% committed and paid-off Trump supporter", but I can't make the acronym work....
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She's not Trump
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That's pretty much the only reason.
If you want someone who will spend the majority of their presidency fighting their own legal battles (currently 4 indictments and 93 criminal charges) - vote for Trump, not Haley.
If you want someone who will exclude everyone who doesn't toe their line 100% and actually promises to alienate and deliberately isolate them - vote for Trump, not Haley.
If you want someone who takes their base for granted, doesn't campaign, doesn't make any effort to reach out to the electorate - vote for Trump, not Haley.
If you want someone who refuses a challenge, is afraid to debate the issues in a public setting, and chooses juvenile schoolyard putdowns instead - vote for Trump, not Haley.
If you want someone who has publicly stated that their OWN political appointments were incapable and unqualified and ineffective, then vote for Trump, not Haley.
I could go on, but I think that's probably sufficient to answer your question!
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South Carolina should lead, not follow
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… and a vote for DJT is following … too much for me. So there is your reason to NOT vote for Haley … you enjoy being a follower.
Now … I see a fascinating opportunity sitting right in front of all South Carolina citizens. Vote for Haley and 1) start the end of DJT and 2) show our nation that South Carolina knows what leadership is.
BTW, another result of getting rid of DJT, … Haley will beat JRB so our nation will be rid of him too.
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Re: Talk me out of voting Haley
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Congratulations on potentially escaping the cult.
Nikki is a Republican, not a right wing psychopath. If you want a Republican in the race, she’s the only one.
Sounds like you believe what Trump says, without bothering to fact check, even when it’s an outright lie…you may be too far gone. Trump depends on people being gullible and too lazy to check out his claims. Of course he’s convinced his followers that ANY negative reporting on him is fake, so if they do fact check, they believe everyone else is lying.
MAGA is a cult. Period. Get out while you can.
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The only clue I've seen that she's for open borders is from Trump ads. I tried
Jan 26, 2024, 10:48 AM
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to find the basis for that claim - unsuccessfully.
Is she a warmonger because she supports helping Ukraine?
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Haley should be running ads against Trump on the board issue...
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He had 2 yrs with GOP control of Congress and, to the best of knowledge, didn't introduce any sweeping immigration reform then. He did a lot with EO's, but didn't try to push anything with Congress until the dems controlled the House in 2019/2020.
In other words, he didn't want to push lasting change...he wanted it as a campaign issues...same as now.
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It's almost like he was president before and nothing changed.***
Jan 26, 2024, 12:02 PM
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Did he, really? I'm not convinced...
Jan 26, 2024, 1:12 PM
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Again...he had 2 yrs with control of Congress...is the wall built?
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He didn't have enough control to just do stuff. The only way to get anything
Jan 26, 2024, 3:51 PM
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through Congress these days is to use reconciliation - and I don't think the wall fell into the correct category for that. It seems like the wall kept getting struck down in the court system.
Caveat - I'll admit that I don't recall the specific order of things. I just remember Trump making attempts - maybe the Pubs (like Romney) that didn't agree with the idea were enough to stop it...
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I don't recall Trump's budget requests being...
Jan 26, 2024, 4:31 PM
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denied on border security his first 2 budgets (1st at least would have been GOP control of both houses).
And since when does Romney not support border security? He was against the DREAM act and strong supports enforcing the border and immigration laws. Mitt is actually a conservative.
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"Is the wall built?" - I'm just saying that Trump didn't have a super majority
Jan 29, 2024, 12:26 PM
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in Congress in 2016/17. Wouldn't he have needed some Dem support to get it done, since it wouldn't have fallen into a reconciliation bucket?
I didn't mean to imply Romney didn't support border security - I was trying to say that I don't think he supported the wall specifically.
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All-In [31908]
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She also isn't "Warmonger, Social Security raider, Establishment, open border"***
Jan 26, 2024, 11:45 AM
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Here's 4. Warmonger, Social Security raider, Establishment, Inc, open borders,***
Jan 26, 2024, 11:53 AM
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I think the OP is looking for reasons that are actually true.(Partially kidding)
Jan 26, 2024, 12:06 PM
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I see no evidence that Haley is for "open borders"
She acknowledges there is a looming issue with SS funding - I guess that's where SS raider comes from..
Is she a warmonger because she supports supporting Ukraine?
Establishment - yes.
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thank goodness haley=
Jan 26, 2024, 6:36 PM
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no chance
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Hope you enjoy Kamala as POTUS***
Jan 29, 2024, 2:58 PM
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Re: thank goodness haley=
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Jan 29, 2024, 4:17 PM
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Perhaps you should apply the same calculus to DJT’s chances of beating Biden. If you were a logical person, you would vote Haley. She’s the only one with a shot.
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Re: thank goodness haley=
Jan 29, 2024, 7:09 PM
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whats her name may do a better job than haley
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How do you define "establishment"?
Jan 29, 2024, 4:56 PM
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She's held public office more than once. Yes. Has she made a career out of it? No. Has the power-broker's club been a big supporter of her? I'd say no. Especially now, when they'd rather support a proven misogynist and sexist like Trump rather than a strong-personality minority female.
I'd say that she's not part of the establishment, otherwise the endorsements of current office-holders in South Carolina - and nationally - would be reversed, with her supporters being the majority and Trump - the "non-establishment candidate" - being the minority.
As it stands, Trump has the support of all the major current office-holders and the party, so I'd say that pretty much makes HIM establishment and Haley non-establishment.
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Re: Talk me out of voting Haley
Jan 29, 2024, 4:58 PM
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I'm voting for her unless someone can give me a reason or two not two. If Trump gets the nomination I'll hold my nose and vote for him or not vote at all
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