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Speed trap on Easter
Apr 18, 2022, 9:00 AM
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I had to run out to the store Sunday before our big meal because apparently I don't know how to pick out strawberries properly on the previous day. As I ventured, I saw that Mount Pleasant PD had set up a speed trap on Highway 41. On a road that generally doesn't see much speeding because it's got so many people on it.
I'm trying to avoid the P&Rishness of this, but #### like this is why I don't get the blind adoration of law enforcement. This is a jerk move. It's Easter. People are probably either doing what I'm doing or on their way to see family.
Yeah, yeah, "But they're trying to keep us safe on a holiday!" No, they're trying to generate revenue on people who might be running a little behind on that day and they're pissed off they have to work.
Maybe some of us would be more supportive of cops if we didn't feel like they were always playing "gotcha" with us.
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Your last paragraph is the issue. They are there to serve
Apr 18, 2022, 9:04 AM
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and protect, not catch us doing something. It always feels like police are out to "catch" you and maybe those two things go hand in hand, but it is framed in a way that creates so much distrust in the police (and this doesn't include the actual shady cops who do bad things and get away with it because they are policia)
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Re: How much was your speeding ticket?***
Apr 18, 2022, 9:04 AM
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I got Waze, yo
Apr 18, 2022, 9:15 AM
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Some good other Wazers gave me a heads up to his presence. I don't speed on that road, anyway.
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Heisman Winner [135609]
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Would you provide a list of the roads you DO speed on?
Apr 18, 2022, 9:30 AM
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Please?
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Whichever one CharlestonTom lives on.***
Apr 18, 2022, 9:39 AM
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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I'm not sure you can speed on 41.
Apr 18, 2022, 9:49 AM
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I don't think I've ever been able to go faster than about 35 on it due to traffic.
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I get the sentiment, but how can you so quickly...
Apr 18, 2022, 9:05 AM
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dismiss that cops enforcing speed limits isn't, at least in part, about keeping the public safe?
I say that as someone who does not generally adhere to the speed limit...but if I get caught, that's on me....not the cop for catching me speeding. Unless the cops are doing something underhanded, like changing the speed limit sign without telling anyone, then why is it a "trap"?
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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I remember when the Cooper River Bridge was being built
Apr 18, 2022, 9:11 AM
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the cops dressing up like construction workers so they could clock people coming off the bridge without anyone knowing. Cops playing dress up to catch speeders? The cops in N Charleston have to be laughing at them for nonsense like that.
I could make a list of things of needless "law enforcement", but the simple fact is that the MPPD has been weaponized for revenue generation, and always have been as long as I can remember.
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So they were pulling over ppl for speeding...
Apr 18, 2022, 9:16 AM
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that weren't actually speeding?
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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no idea.
Apr 18, 2022, 9:46 AM
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But I doubt they had to play dress up to do it.
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I can agree if it's a known problem
Apr 18, 2022, 9:16 AM
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Like a particular road. But I drive Highway 41 a lot; not only are they never doing traps there, but it's usually a backed up roadway. I also have enough experience with the MPPD to know THAT particularly department doesn't give two ##### about safety.
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So they were catching a lot of people speeding on a...
Apr 18, 2022, 9:19 AM
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road where people don't speed?
Seriously, I'm missing the outrage/point here to a certain extent.
To me, you're either speeding or not speeding. If you're speeding and get a ticket...well, that's on you.
If you're not speeding and get a ticket, then that's wrong and should be fought.
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I don't know if he did...
Apr 18, 2022, 9:26 AM
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Because I didn't see him with anyone pulled over.
My point is that it's a major holiday on a road that isn't known for speed problems and an agency that cares more about revenue generation than safety. It's "gotcha". Yeah, if someone's speeding, they broke the law. But that's what MPPD tries to do.
Maybe it would be nice if they actually did their jobs after people are actually killed on Mt. P roadways, which they don't really seem to care about.
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how do you know that they weren't looking
Apr 18, 2022, 9:28 AM
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for someone that was reported as drunk or stole from the gas station or maybe a domestic violence issue. Many times they are hiding out waiting for someone specific.
Sounds like you just dont like the police.
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Sure...***
Apr 18, 2022, 9:39 AM
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How would speed enforcement on a road that doesn't....
Apr 18, 2022, 9:58 AM
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have a lot of speeding generate much revenue?
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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right***
Apr 18, 2022, 10:27 AM
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They may well be...at least in part...
Apr 18, 2022, 9:26 AM
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but I think a pretty good case can be made that frequent speed enforcement or speed enforcement at all, likely reduces overall speeding and reducing overall speeding reduces the chances of accidents.
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Yes, but that doesn't necessitate speed traps.
Apr 18, 2022, 9:34 AM
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The issue here is not patrolling for speeding, but using a tool that is designed for revenue generation, and on a holy holiday for that matter.
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I'd rather leadfoot drivers pay cops' salaries than me
Apr 18, 2022, 9:41 AM
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the more money they can get from the careless, the better off the rest of us are.
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Speed traps don't target high risk drivers
Apr 18, 2022, 9:52 AM
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exclusively. That's the problem. Last week NC had a week dedicated to pulling over drivers going even 1mph over the speed limit. That's the mentality of speed traps versus standard enforcement. That's the problem here.
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That's a rather broad brush statement...
Apr 18, 2022, 10:00 AM
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how can you say fixed speed enforcement (I'm not calling it a trap) doesn't target high risk drivers?
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Geeez ol crackers - we get it dude - you don't see a problem
Apr 18, 2022, 10:26 AM
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with a cop being out of view or positioned in a way so as to "catch" speeders.
There are a bunch of us that do.
Have a nice day. And G O T I G E R S !
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Because it's going for an easy symptom rather than an
Apr 18, 2022, 10:28 AM
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effective one. It's easy to point a radar gun and pick someone off. It's not as easy to pull a left lane hog, or someone not using a turn signal, or someone on their phone (in states where it's illegal), or someone blowing through a yellow/red light, or a tailgater, but all of those are driving behaviors that are far more detrimental to overall road safety than speeding, yet they're largely ignored by police.
Cops targeting speeders in the name of traffic safety (as their primary effort) is like an oncologist charging patients to take their BP and listen to their lungs as their primary effort in the name of cancer treatment.
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I gotta say, you're just inserting a lot of opinions...
Apr 18, 2022, 10:35 AM
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and saying here without much "ompf".
I pull a lot of time on the interstate each week. I've seen ppl get pulled over for tailgating a few times recently. One was actually on my tail as I was going fast in the left lane behind traffic while passing cars in the right lane. I saw lights go on 2 cars back and thought we were all going to get pulled for speeding. Both of us got into the right lane and cop pulls to the left of us and we both pulled over. Cop came up to me (in front) and told me I could leave...he was after the guy behind me for following too close. I told him the guy was a jackarse and had been riding me close for some miles.
Now, that is 100% anecdotal in nature...but I don't think it's fair throw out blanket statements that fixed speed enforcement is bogus because cops aren't patrolling and enforcing other dangerous behavior.
Anyways...we've probably beaten this horse to death at this point.
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This
Apr 18, 2022, 1:03 PM
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You don't ever see Mt. P police yanking people who tailgate aggressively, and I can name two incidents in that town (where the police did little afterwards) that cost people their lives.
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*Deep Breath*
Apr 18, 2022, 1:06 PM
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WHAT DO YOU KNOW WHO MADE YOU A CEO YOU'RE A BOOT-LICKING CLOSET DEM/FAKE INDEPENDENT I'M REPORTING YOU TO THE GOP PARTY IN SC1!!!1!!
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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MPPD?? I can't believe it.
Apr 18, 2022, 9:06 AM
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Its amazing how different the police depts are just 4 miles apart. I felt like I moved to another country on IOP. The MPPD is just another wing of revenue enhancement.
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Thought you would be all about "business as usual"
Apr 18, 2022, 9:07 AM
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on a major Christian holiday.
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I drank a good bit of beer
Apr 18, 2022, 9:18 AM
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Smoked a bad ### piece of meat, and skipped the prayer. Boy, it was business as usual.
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Did you get got?***
Apr 18, 2022, 9:10 AM
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Re: Speed trap on Easter
Apr 18, 2022, 9:22 AM
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You need some more problems
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pro tip
Apr 18, 2022, 9:27 AM
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don't break the law when breaking the law. don't wanna get caught speeding w/ a fresh bag of "strawberries", nomsayin?
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The ole "never break two laws at the same time" rule of life
Apr 18, 2022, 2:59 PM
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has served me well.
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Waiting for Lakebum to see this thread
Apr 18, 2022, 9:27 AM
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Re: Waiting for Lakebum to see this thread
Apr 18, 2022, 9:35 AM
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I actually should have tagged him. Lakebum1®
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Oculus Spirit [79429]
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I share your sentiment
Apr 18, 2022, 10:32 AM
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I would go into more detail but I’m waiting for happy drugs so I can have part of my colon removed.
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Re: Speed trap on Easter
Apr 18, 2022, 9:45 AM
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It is not a trap. If you do not speed, not a problem.
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Maybe true, but a question for you
Apr 18, 2022, 9:51 AM
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Hoo TF are U?
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Re: Maybe true, but a question for you
Apr 19, 2022, 10:43 AM
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Why do you keep asking me that?
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Cause you're not a regular jounger***
Apr 19, 2022, 12:06 PM
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Also
Apr 18, 2022, 9:49 AM
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Everyone in here doing the "if you don't speed..." BS. You speed. You know you do. We all do. Don't pretend you're setting your cruise control right on the speed limit every time.
There is 0.0 percent chance any one of you doesn't ever break the law in some way, shape, or form while driving.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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Or in Mt P, standing in your yard with a beer.
Apr 18, 2022, 9:52 AM
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Or parking in parking lot with a boat trailer. Or going too slow. Or driving a golf cart. Or driving after 1 am. Or living in a house that someone they used to be after lived in.
There's about a million ways to break the law in Mt P that don't seem to exist anywhere else.
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I freely admit I do....
Apr 18, 2022, 10:01 AM
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I just don't bish about it when I'm caught and when police try to catch me 
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Oculus Spirit [83125]
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You can set your cruise control to 9 miles over the speed
Apr 18, 2022, 10:20 AM
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limit and never get at ticket. This has been my life experience.
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go do 9 over on Ocean Blvd on IOP. Lemme know how it goes.***
Apr 18, 2022, 10:29 AM
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Pretty sure I have when I lived in MP, but maybe not...can't
Apr 18, 2022, 10:33 AM
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remember. Remember being stopped on SI a couple of times and having to recite my ABCs...
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They might, MIGHT give you 5 over on IOP if they're in a
Apr 18, 2022, 10:36 AM
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good mood.
I had a couple friends back in the day get DUI's when right at the limit when originally pulled over for a few MPH over or a headlight out.
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Oculus Spirit [81061]
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They just lowered the limit to everything being 25mph
Apr 18, 2022, 10:37 AM
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they give you a couple over, but I wouldn't test it.
Unless you have a resident sticker.
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If you're there between March and October....
Apr 18, 2022, 10:39 AM
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its pretty difficult to 9 mph consistently..much less 9 mph over anything.
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I usually do that...
Apr 18, 2022, 1:02 PM
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Especially on the Interstate, but that's still speeding in some cops' eyes. At least, by the law it is.
I had an MPPD officer pull me years ago on Coleman after leaving a bar on my way to IOP just after dinner time. I had one beer at dinner. I saw him coming and made sure I set the cruise to the limit. He pulled me. I had my old vehicle then that probably looked more like a teenager's car. He seemed very surprised when he walked up and found a bald dude in his late 30s. And one who was sober at that.
He said he pulled me because my license plate light was out, and this was just a warning. When I got to my destination, I checked it. It worked fine.
Dude was trolling for a ticket or an arrest. I wasn't doing anything wrong and he lied about why he pulled me. Again, this is more of a Mt. P problem; I don't expect this to happen downtown or Up Chuck.
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True dat. Nor Pinewood.***
Apr 18, 2022, 8:57 PM
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I quit going that way.
Apr 19, 2022, 9:35 AM
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For some reason. Back roads at night I don't do for sure.
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you didn't factor in
Apr 18, 2022, 10:22 AM
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TheProdigal guarantee that guy has extra special alarms for when his car is over the speed limit by 1mph.
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I do set my cruise control to the speed limit.....
Apr 19, 2022, 7:44 AM
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Because of insurance. I'm not telling you everything because you don't need to know. I'm not in a hurry. I don't care.
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Re: Also
Apr 19, 2022, 10:49 AM
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But that does not make it a trap.
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To Serve and Protect. lol***
Apr 18, 2022, 12:17 PM
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Had one yesterday on Scuffletown Road in Simpsonville.
Apr 18, 2022, 5:44 PM
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I like what they do on Pawleys, just park a cop car in the medium in different places. Locals know no one is in it, but I guess it helps slow down tourists.
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Back in the day, it was one word... Mauldin. Before 385 and
Apr 18, 2022, 8:43 PM
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all that, you had to go thru Mauldin to get to the beach. And it was a notorious speed trap town. The old saying for Greenvillians was - if you can get past Mauldin, you're home free all the way to Myrtle.
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Man, it was the worst.
Apr 19, 2022, 12:18 AM
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They would sit right at that bend coming off 385 where it went from 55 to 35 with almost no warning, and then it was 35 all the way to the Dukes plant.
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Used to be a guy that sold old Corvettes that had a sign
Apr 19, 2022, 9:34 AM
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about it iirc.
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Lol, Don Gore’s Corvette World
Apr 19, 2022, 9:36 AM
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I think he’s dead now but still has his name on a lot on Mauldin Rd near CCES.
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Oh yeah, he used to have a sign out front that typically had
Apr 19, 2022, 12:40 PM
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somewhat controversial sayings and jabs... there was one that I quoted many times over the years, but I cannot pull it out of my memory right now, galddanggit. I do remember that some were critical of our state leadership in Columbia... "sumptin sumptin 90 miles ahead". I swear, when I remember the classic quote he had one time, I will post it. This is frustrating that I cannot think of it right this minute.
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All-In [47750]
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Joined: 11/15/99
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I about got caught on Sugar Mtn Sunday....Some nice dood
Apr 19, 2022, 12:58 PM
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blinked his lights to warn me (for the record I wasn't speeding on Grouse Moor Rd as it's quite curvy....Close call too cuz there may or may not have been an open container in the car.
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