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Orange Blooded [3362]
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Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 1:20 AM
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Dabo doesn’t exude confidence at all in Cade. Seeing them sitting beside each other on the platform taking questions, you can tell there is a distance between them that Dabo doesn’t have with DJ.
Dabo seems down, sad, disappointed. Something is off. I’m sure he knows DJ will likely transfer.
Makes me wonder if it is something off the field, leadership, etc. Cade is clearly the better QB, but Dabo doesn’t seem thrilled.
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Well to be fair a young kid just made him look like a #######
Dec 4, 2022, 1:23 AM
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On national TV
And everyone knows it
Maybe that gives him the sads
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Re: Well to be fair a young kid just made him look like a #######
Dec 4, 2022, 1:52 PM
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Sums it up.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 1:25 AM
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When DJ was melting down last year with this family situation, I suspect Dabo promised DJ's Mom that he would make sure that he would be a big success. And here we are.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 1:36 AM
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If he promised that then he is certainly at fault. He has handled this situation badly, pouted like a child every time a question was asked and praised DJ for mediocre play that has hurt our team. I don't believe Cade was scheduled for the 3rd possession tonight, in fact he said it would be the 3rd or 4th or maybe later. Dabo is quick to criticize our defense, receiver drops, really everything other than DJs play. Not that it matters to anyone but his overall arrogance has caused problems this year and last.
Thank God for Cade's performance.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 1:33 AM
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I'm fine with us being a finishing school for young men,
Dec 4, 2022, 1:35 AM
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even if it means sacrificing highly winnable games.
The leader of that position though likely doesn't merit 8 figures a year in income.
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LMAO at finishing school.
Dec 4, 2022, 1:41 AM
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You’re on a roll tonight! Thanks for the laughs.
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Re: I'm fine with us being a finishing school for young men,
Dec 4, 2022, 2:02 AM
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Lot o points [155901]
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So did we lose SC because of poor skill play or
Dec 4, 2022, 2:12 AM
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because Dabo left DJ in because he knew he was hurting? You've offered both in this thread. Either way, you're excusing your way around the fact that a singular player substitution would have almost certainly have won that game for us, and that as far as we can tell, there was no real logical reason for not even attempting that substitution.
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Re: So did we lose SC because of poor skill play or
Dec 4, 2022, 3:00 AM
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Re: So did we lose SC because of poor skill play or
Dec 4, 2022, 1:54 PM
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Defense secondary was Swiss cheese ? in the coot game.
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Orange Blooded [2753]
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also on the field a bunch when the offense was ...
Dec 4, 2022, 2:21 PM
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sucking repeatedly.
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Re: I'm fine with us being a finishing school for young men,
Dec 4, 2022, 12:14 PM
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“ Well no offense but this is probably why you are where you are in life and Dabo is where he is”
Oh T3Tiger,
Please, by all means, explain to me where I am in life…
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Re: I'm fine with us being a finishing school for young men,
Dec 4, 2022, 12:15 PM
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Re: I'm fine with us being a finishing school for young men,
Dec 4, 2022, 7:10 PM
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Correct. Apparently by your logic I should also stop questioning the president, the guy who claims he “is the science”, celebrities trying to sell me FTX crypto, and everyone else that makes a bunch of money. Of course they are never wrong, right??
Or maybe Dabo can be a great coach and person but have completely botched this QB situation. Maybe people who get paid millions and/or are in very powerful positions should be scrutinized that much more. And maybe, just maybe, those people know, or should know, they signed up for it. Heavy is the head that wears the crown.
But for you, by all means, continue to bow down to those who make more than you because for certain, they must be right.
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Re: Seriously
Dec 4, 2022, 10:31 PM
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Re: I'm fine with us being a finishing school for young men,
Dec 4, 2022, 2:43 PM
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except "those who refuse to study history are doomed to repeat it" 2 YEARS of Dabo treating DJ like he was a scared 6 year old girl have cost the team, the players (all of which other than DJ Dabo has no problem throwing under the bus) and the trust and respect of the fan base (you know the ones who PAY Dabos multi million dollar salary)
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Re: I'm fine with us being a finishing school for young men,
Dec 4, 2022, 9:40 PM
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You don't have a clue where he is in life. And I find it ironic that the people to take personal attacks on fellow posters always hide behind anonymity. If you were such a big success, why don't you tell us all about yourself so we can see where you are in life.
Also, it's foolish to claim hindsight is 20/20 when people were saying DJ would cost Clemson games and Cade could start since the off-season. That's foresight, not hindsight.
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Re: Maybe you missed a few of his accomplishments
Dec 4, 2022, 1:46 AM
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You can absolutely blame Dabo for the DJ situation. If Cade started again USCjr, we're in the playoff. Dabo put his ego ahead of the program.
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Re: Maybe you missed a few of his accomplishments
Dec 4, 2022, 12:18 PM
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Exactly ^^^^^^ What he said!
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Re: I'm fine with us being a finishing school for young men,
Dec 4, 2022, 6:18 PM
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Yet, SOMEHOW, with this mentality, he has won us 2 nattys, got us to the GAME 2 more times. Y'all need to suck it up. Keep your friggin crying up and see what happens when we have to go get some flame out, up and comer. Y'all are some friggin short sighted bammer fans. Tjere are going to be some down years....wow, a 10+ win, down year. Y'all have friggin cried enough about Dabo. ####
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 1:51 AM
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Dabo has done all he could do. The player has to play and make it pay off.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 2:11 PM
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It seems as though DJU embodies everything Dabo is trying to continue establishing (Team first, great young men, hard working, great in the community, graduating, teaching life lessons through the game of football, etc.)
I agree 1000% it was more than warranted to make the change and without it I think we lose by 21+ points. That being said I also believe that for the first time in a long time, it didn't seem like DJ had the weight of the world on his shoulders. If he was attracted to Clemson and the elements of the culture, specifically family, it probably would be great for him to be able to relocate and play with his brother at like a UCLA or something like that.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 9:43 PM
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This didn't age well. I wanted Cade since the off-season because I believe all your decisions have to be geared for the post-season. DJ, even at his best, couldn't beat a top 10 team. His ceiling just wasn't that high (whether that's because of him or because of Streeter, idk).
I don't know DJ. He might well be a great young man. I don't know and neither do you. He did graduate. I am rather close to the Clemson community and know he doesn't do anything to warrant that praise. He's definitely not team-first, as the second he was no longer the starter, he's leaving (not that I blame him for that, but that's not putting the team first). And what life lessons have you learned from him through the game of football?
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Orange Blooded [3730]
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I think this is probably 90% TRUE…
Dec 4, 2022, 2:29 PM
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While I said that I would follow DJ to the “gates of h311”, but not into Dante’s Inferno, for CDS, I will be right beside him in the Inferno.
Although, CDS is get too Christian off a man to have as his destiny Dante’s Inferno.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 6:03 PM
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But are you really describing a good quality? Sounds like straight up favoritism. It may be heartwarming to see the closeness to DJ,but what about all those other guys? A QB who was overlooked. Receivers who weren’t given the opportunity to show what they could do. Players who were called out as the “real reason” for losses. And the whole team misses the playoffs. Do you think they didn’t really care about that so it was OK to put favoritism ahead of their interests?
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 12:42 PM
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Although Klubnik was highly recruited, is a good christain and highly talented young man, IMO, Klubnik did not fit the mold of DW4 and TL16 and it cost him. He's more of running gun slinger than a drop back pass and run when you have to QB. Dabo and Streeter can't change his style, it's all he's known, and it affected his play time. The Clemson offense is not built as a plug and play for Cade. Maybe this was a wake up call for everyone.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 1:43 PM
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Are you implying that DJU DOES fit the DW4 and TL16 mold, and deserves to play for that reason?
In my opinion DJU had great practices but didn't transfer that play to real games. CK2 didn't practice as well so wasn't given many chances to play in the first half of games. So much of how a QB plays the position depends on what's going on in his head. DJU played like he wasn't always thinking clearly.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 2:17 PM
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I was all in for DJ when he was recruited but now I don't care if he ever steps on the field for Clemson again. Just saying there are a lot of old Chad Morris playbook pages that need to be dusted off. CK2 is a run and gun QB with accuracy and arm strength. That's the way he's always played with just enough drop back, pocket passing to make it interesting.
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Our current Offense is MUCH better suited to Cade than DJ.
Dec 4, 2022, 1:51 PM
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That's not even possibly debatable.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 1:57 PM
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I don't think there are any problems between Dabo and Cade. I think Dabo has been doing everything possible to give DJ a chance to have success, even though it cost the SC game. Why is the big question. Did he promise to let him start every game if he'd keep playing football? The rumor is DJ wanted to quit the sport.
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Dabo doesn't like admitting he was wrong***
Dec 4, 2022, 2:15 PM
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a 2yr mistake***
Dec 4, 2022, 2:16 PM
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Who should he have played last season?
Dec 4, 2022, 2:30 PM
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We saw more than one backup stink up the field last season. If you'd remember you wouldn't make such outlandish statements.
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Re: Who should he have played last season?
Dec 4, 2022, 3:04 PM
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Dabo said it last night on ACCN after the game, they had no one to go to last year. That was different story this year but it took too long to make the move depending on which side of the fence you're watching from.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 2:21 PM
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Dabo
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 2:22 PM
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Dabo got exposed. He had lied about Cade ",not being ready" and Cade came out and looked like a Heisman front runner.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 2:25 PM
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 3:14 PM
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So you think anyone could play like that because the other team is expecting another QB ? LOL
The UNC D was on fire before Cade came out and he promptly put it out . Cold off the bench!
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 4:36 PM
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How did DJ do against that same D.?
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 2:23 PM
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I think you’re reading something into it that isn’t there.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 2:28 PM
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You are right something is off. With the fans who are still griping and whining that our head coach owes some kind of explanation or whipping with a switch or something. It smells more like trolls from somewhere...........attempting to sow discord with our most successful coach ever.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 6:48 PM
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You are right something is off. With the fans who are still griping and whining that our head coach owes some kind of explanation or whipping with a switch or something. It smells more like trolls from somewhere...........attempting to sow discord with our most successful coach ever.
Some of these people you call trolls have thousands of post way more than you and certainly more than me but if you don’t like the comments it’s a troll. Please define your version of a troll ?
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 6:54 PM
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You are right something is off. With the fans who are still griping and whining that our head coach owes some kind of explanation or whipping with a switch or something. It smells more like trolls from somewhere...........attempting to sow discord with our most successful coach ever.
In slang, a troll is a person who posts or makes inflammatory, insincere, digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages online, or in real life, with the intent of provoking others into displaying emotional responses, or manipulating others' perception. Wikipedia
So In slang, a troll is a person who posts or makes inflammatory, insincere, digressive, extraneous, or off-topic messages online, or in real life, with the intent of provoking others into displaying emotional responses, or manipulating others' perception.
So in the above definition why questioning coaches decisions or ego falls under any of these? Don’t use troll you fall under that definition but just say you disagree ?
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Perhaps Dabo feels as if he failed DJ.
Dec 4, 2022, 2:28 PM
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Dabo said he relates to our players like he relates to his sons. Sometimes a man does what's right and it doesn't turn out to suit him. That's life. You do your best and fail. Sometimes it's your fault for your management of the situation and sometimes, like with DJ, there's no way to force the outcome you want.
Prayer just changes you so that you accept life as it comes. It only changes your attitude sometimes.
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Re: Something is off
Dec 4, 2022, 3:07 PM
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DJ has the ability to be the QB that Dabo wants him to be. He simply is too inconsistent. I tend to think it is between the ears, but there are some things with his mechanics that could lead to inconsistency as well. Dabo just refused to give up on DJ not being what he wanted him to be.
It isn't anything against Cade, but DJ is the coach's pet. DJ is easy to root for when you look off the field even if it is just on the sidelines. He does all of the things outside of playing that you want a young man to do. I am not saying that Dabo's bias is intentional, and I don't think that he recognizes it. I just wonder a little about why the rest of the coaching staff was not telling him to think with his head and not with his heart.
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I watched very bit of the postgame interviews
Dec 4, 2022, 3:11 PM
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And celebrations and didn't get this vibe at all. He seemed happy to me on ABC, the Huddle. Interview and cutting up with Cade's family on the field after his acc huddle interview.
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That's a weird take. I saw Dabo hugging him like a son and
Dec 4, 2022, 5:22 PM
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congratulating him on taking over the starting role.
Do some of you dudes just sit around looking for negative ways to spin things?
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Dabo Unlike Most Other Self-Centered Coaches Out
Dec 4, 2022, 9:05 PM
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There, I believe genuinely cares about his kids, his program and his University and any non-pyscho human would show signs of grief knowing what is transpiring. I would rather see that than the personality disorder garbage from Saban or the other big name guys.
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Creepy Dabo forced to eat crow
Dec 4, 2022, 10:12 PM
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And then in 1st post game interview Dabo continued to pump DJ sunshine which disrespected Cade standing right beside him. The obvious disconnect everyone notices is Dabo doesn't even know Cade and Cade most likely will never have much trust in Dabo now. Dabo has become as creepy as his criminal brother.
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