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Commissioner [907]
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So which is it??
Jan 6, 2020, 10:40 AM
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I hear that LSU beat 6 top 10 ranked teams this season.
And Clemson didn't play any.
If you ask me it's not that way.
You either get to count the ranking at the time you play them
or the ranking at the end of the season.
Some of the top 10 that LSU played aren't top 10 at the end of the season
And some of CU's wins (TAMU and UVA) were ranked when we played them.
Which way do you want to count it? Can't have it both ways
you bunch of bayou corndoggers
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TigerNet Elite [69825]
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Based on LSU academic rankings...
Jan 6, 2020, 10:42 AM
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counting doesn't seem to be a real strength for them.
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Tiger Titan [50814]
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Ha! Good one!***
Jan 6, 2020, 10:43 AM
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Varsity [231]
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where were UVA and Tamu when Clem played them?
Jan 6, 2020, 10:47 AM
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LSU fans didn't notice.
If they were Top Ten at the time, Clem played 2.
LSU played and beat 6, the most ever in the history of the AP Poll (started in 30s).
That does not mean that LSU will win but it does indicate that comparing statistics is a problem since data is from different samples.
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Commissioner [907]
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Re: where were UVA and Tamu when Clem played them?
Jan 6, 2020, 10:48 AM
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8 for TAMU and 24 for UVA I think
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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Don't forget we beat #2 Ohio State and are
Jan 6, 2020, 10:49 AM
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about to beat the ever loving shyatt out of #1 LSU.
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TigerNet Immortal [174744]
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both teams are going to play next Monday. Stats and records
Jan 6, 2020, 11:43 AM
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you can throw them out the window. It's not going to matter who you beat, etc. The game will be decided on the field.
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Re: Based on LSU academic rankings...
Jan 6, 2020, 11:01 AM
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But they are good with the alphabet.....SEC, SEC!!!!! Well, not quite.
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Re: So which is it??
Jan 6, 2020, 10:49 AM
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Nobody tried to have it both ways. Just stated a fact. The final polls won’t be released till after the season so it’s a bit premature to reference them. I think Clemson played two ranked teams during the season in the Aggies and Cavaliers, neither which were top ranked programs, neither of which were road games. Also, the rankings in season can mean something more as injuries do play a role in how a teams season unfolds. The more relevant point in citing the caliber of competitors is the continued stat comparisons being made by many Clemson posters. Is there a Clemson fan alive that doubts LSUs national rankings in various statistical categories would look a shade better if we swapped schedules with Clemson?
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [105932]
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Your defensive stats would look worse if we swapped
Jan 6, 2020, 10:52 AM
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schedules. Your offensive stats would look about the same.
Just remember, we bout to stomp a mudhole in y'all, so go pound sand.
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Dynasty Maker [3488]
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TigerNet Elite [69825]
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So would Clemson's...
Jan 6, 2020, 10:57 AM
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if we continued to play the starters late into the 4th quarter.
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Re: So which is it??
Jan 6, 2020, 11:41 AM
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"Is there a Clemson fan alive that doubts LSUs national rankings in various statistical categories would look a shade better if we swapped schedules with Clemson?"
Or worse. You'd probably have a loss.
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TigerNet Elite [69825]
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At least one ***
Jan 6, 2020, 11:59 AM
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Re: So which is it??
Jan 6, 2020, 1:08 PM
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Yeah lsu played a tough schedule this year. Congratulations. It’s just a talking point now. All that matters is what happens next Monday.
lsu should really be a double digit favorite. Greatest team of all time. They should be # 1,2,3 and 4 in the rankings since no one else stands a chance. No defense can stop Bureaux. Etc. Etc. All the talk will make the Clemson win even sweeter...
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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no team should get credit for "ranked when they played"
Jan 6, 2020, 10:52 AM
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it should always be current/present ranking
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CU Guru [1560]
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Re: no team should get credit for "ranked when they played"
Jan 6, 2020, 11:35 AM
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Huh?
it should always be current/present ranking?
That does not make sense to me. But perhaps you were being sarcastic.
If Team A is ranked #10 to start the season or at any other point in the season, then that is the subjective opinion of that teams's competitiveness.
If Team B beats TEAM A. Well, TEAM B beat a ranked team , ranked #10 when they played them. The ranking at the time they played was the subjective perception of the competitive superiority of the teams when they played.
If TEAM A goes on to finish below #10 or even out of the Top 25, whether due to losing players to injury or just being overvalued/overranked, their FINAL or even next ranking is not relevant to when TEAM B actually played TEAM A.
The "When they played" ranking should be what is used. Otherwise, it is looking back with present day knowledge.
It is like using a timemachine to jump into the future in order to know the true value of a team across the season that is about to be played.
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current rankings
Jan 6, 2020, 11:04 AM
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And as it stands clemson has the best win of the season.
Yes, LSU has a lot of wins vs ranked teams. The gap between #3 and #4 is historically big. Clemson would be undefeated with LSU's schedule. Not sure if LSU would be undefeated vs Clemson's (Ohio State).
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Q: What happens when the dumbest guy in Clemson moves
Jan 6, 2020, 11:07 AM
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to Baton Rouge?
A: Both towns become smarter!
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Valley Legend [12429]
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Re: Q: What happens when the dumbest guy in Clemson moves
Jan 6, 2020, 11:25 AM
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At least the dumbest guy from Clemson knows his alphabet.... ABC....instead of SEC.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [103006]
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That all becomes academic when you make the NC game.
Jan 6, 2020, 11:50 AM
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You guys worry too much about what sports writers and talking heads have to say. When you're the King of the Mountain it doesn't matter what the peons below think.
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National Champion [7763]
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Real fact is that none of it matters.
Jan 6, 2020, 11:59 AM
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They'll play in a week, and nothing else will matter in the end.
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