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Top TigerNet [29821]
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Fake injury solution.
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Oct 17, 2024, 12:48 PM
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Should be easy to implement.
When a player comes off the field due to injury he must remain out of the game until there is a change of possession.
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Oculus Spirit [42275]
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I think we should be able to trust sec teams to say if
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Oct 17, 2024, 12:53 PM
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They are injured or not. But the rest of them are just faking,
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All-Pro [765]
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Re: I think we should be able to trust sec teams to say if
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:19 PM
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Somewhere in the grove an Ole Miss player just fell down without warning.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [100837]
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Fake injury = sec timeout.***
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Oct 17, 2024, 12:53 PM
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Hall of Famer [8327]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
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Oct 17, 2024, 12:58 PM
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I like that...or something similar, at least. Today they just have to sit 1 play. I think at least 3-4 plays would be more reasonable.
Some "real" injuries are quick recovery, like a cramp or dead leg situation. It may be a bit too punitive to force those players out for an entire possession.
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All-Pro [765]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:24 PM
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Agreed. They can sit for 4 plays minimum or the Coach can opt for a 10 yard penalty. That would never happen but it would be fair imo.
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Paw Master [17976]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
Oct 18, 2024, 1:39 PM
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Or burn a timeout if the coach wants them back in the game before next change of possession.
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Hall of Famer [8397]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:00 PM
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I’m sure they’d just find some way to sub in a backup and then have them take a dive instead.
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Dynasty Maker [3313]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:00 PM
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Coaches would probably just put a ringer in the game to take the dive. Then, when he sits out it doesn't matter. Now, if teams didn't try to out hustle their opponents to the line of scrimmage, then there wouldn't be any fake injuries. Don't look for anyone with authority to address this issue, though. It gives the TV people a golden opportunity to play more commercials.
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Hall of Famer [8327]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
Oct 17, 2024, 1:04 PM
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At least that adds risk...if they put a sacrificial lamb in there to take a dive, he'd have to be in for a play first. If a coach wants to go so far as playing backups in critical situations so they can take a dive, and that guy gets beat or burned on a play, the lesson will be learned pretty quick.
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Varsity [104]
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Solution to that solution.
Oct 17, 2024, 2:45 PM
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Any backup that goes in for one okay and takes a dive gets the following...
1. Ejected from the game. If in the second half, Suspended for the 1st half if the next game. If the player transfers before the next game, the suspension goes with him.
2. 15 yard penalty against the defense that does it. If 15 is more than half the distance, 1st and goal from the 5.
3. Automatic first down.
4. $150,000 fine for Lane Kiffin.
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Heisman Winner [78185]
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Re: Fake injury solution.- If they are going to do that at least
Oct 17, 2024, 1:02 PM
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do some acting. This walking around fine a dn then collapsing in a heap when given a signal from the sideline is just a bad look.
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TigerNet Elite [69754]
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I have been saying this for years...
Oct 17, 2024, 1:04 PM
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since the "We didn't really want to be there" 2012 Peach Bowl game between LSU and Clemson.
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All-In [11048]
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I have a solution.
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:10 PM
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If you are caught faking an injury, you are punished by receiving a real injury.
Tonya Harding style.
The coach is also subject to this punishment.
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Varsity [104]
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So someone gets to take a crack...
Oct 17, 2024, 2:46 PM
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At Lane Kiffin with a tactical baton?
Hmmmmm.
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Paw Warrior [4874]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
Oct 17, 2024, 1:12 PM
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I like the idea of the player sitting out some length of time.
Also, charge the team a timeout? Maybe a little harsh
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Hall of Famer [8327]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:21 PM
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There are quite a few legitimate injuries...I think taking away timeouts is too harsh. The intent is to stop the fake ones, not penalize the real ones.
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TigerNet Champion [120830]
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That is utterly brilliant
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:21 PM
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the final drive of the game, down 2 points, and a Defensive End blindsides your QB and he is out the rest fo the game. O what if your center gets a leg cramp in overtime, that would be awesome huh?
What would we do without Brett FSU's intelligent posts?
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Hall of Famer [8327]
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Re: That is utterly brilliant
Oct 17, 2024, 1:25 PM
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What's your solution?
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TigerNet Champion [120830]
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I do not have one
Oct 17, 2024, 1:35 PM
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nor do I pretend to better infromed than the people who make the rules and consider the consequences, although that was not hard to discect. In my experience, people who are insecure baout their intelligence think they know everything, more so than the experts in their repsective fileds, people who are not, can say, I have no f'g clue.
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Hall of Famer [8327]
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Re: I do not have one
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:36 PM
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It seems like you don't understand the point of sports message boards. Stick to politics.
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TigerNet Champion [120830]
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Insetad, How abbout you don't tell me what to do
Oct 17, 2024, 1:54 PM
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and admit the OP did not think through the unintended consequences of tampering with player safety rules. Another consideration sis a guy could really be hurt,and not leave the field cause he has to sit out the drive. if you honestly do not believe that all of these considerations have not been exploited by the league, then you are very naive.
Yes, I understand the purpose of sports chat boards, I have been and active meber of this one for over 20 years, and have donated well over $1000.00
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Game Changer [1830]
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Re: That is utterly brilliant
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:45 PM
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Fake injuries ae rarely done by the offenseif a guy goes down he's hurt nearly 100% of the time.
If a player is hurt enough to stop play he's hurt bad enough to go sit down for a while. A rule like this might be in the best interest ofplayer safety also.
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TigerNet Champion [120830]
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Re: That is utterly brilliant
Oct 17, 2024, 1:55 PM
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so a guy get a leg cramp and has to sit out the final drive, or gets the wind knocked out him? No, you do not punish teams who play by the rules because of a few bad actors.
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CU Medallion [20831]
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Would you like to show Tnet where Bret...
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:48 PM
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...touched you? Geez, chill out.
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TigerNet Champion [120830]
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Re: Would you like to show Tnet where Bret...
Oct 17, 2024, 1:56 PM
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You have not been paying attention have you?
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Top TigerNet [29821]
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What in the world does a DE blindsiding a QB....
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Oct 17, 2024, 2:18 PM
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.... have to do with my post?
As for a player getting a legit cramp, It has been my experience that it takes more than 30 seconds to get over it, rehydrate, etc. I don't think sitting out until there is a change of possession is too excessive.
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Game Changer [1830]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
Oct 17, 2024, 1:40 PM
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I agree. This is the best anti-football turning to soccer solution.
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Clemson Icon [24717]
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:46 PM
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Hall of Famer [8327]
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Re: They already solved it in an appropriate manner.
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Oct 17, 2024, 1:52 PM
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No, that was for 12 men on the field.
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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The status quo is better than that . . .
Oct 17, 2024, 1:51 PM
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. . . and the status quo is not good, but that would result in even worse stuff. Imagine a guy gets a cramp or a painful hyperextension and has to go out for a play or two to recover, and every time EVER that happens ever (fast pace offense or not), he can't come back for the rest of the possession. That would FAR outweigh, both in frequency and effect, the number of times fake injuries cost an offense a pace advantage. It would also incentivize vicious hits to force their hand in that sense. Make a guy see stars for 30 seconds and you knock him out for a whole possession. Defenders would be licking their chops. Bad idea. I don't deny it would work, but that's too high of a price to pay.
There doesn't seem to be a great solution, but a better middle road would be to mandate they be out for say, 2, 3 plays. Also not great, but better than the rest of the possession.
They could also consider giving teams a pre-set number of free "injury delays" per game, with anything further than that penalized or assessed in some way (Lose a time out, a short yardage penalty (maybe 3 yards)), or something like that. This also, has it's down sides, like everything else.
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Hall of Famer [8327]
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Re: The status quo is better than that . . .
Oct 17, 2024, 1:54 PM
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I agree - a handful of plays. 3-4 was my suggestion.
If you are just dinged and need to sit out a play, jog off. Don't lay down and stop play.
Also, give coaches the option to call a timeline to sub back in a player that was forced off due to injury.
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TigerNet Champion [120830]
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Re: The status quo is better than that . . .
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Oct 17, 2024, 2:05 PM
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hard to do with a leg cramp, or if you do not know how serious your injury is. Player safety is the MOST important thing here, you just don't mess with it in case you are wrong. Punishing teams who play by the rules, again, is ot the answer, and it very well could lead to more cheap shots and late hits if you can get a guy to sit an entire series. The will take the 15 yard penalty if they can knock the guy out for the final drive.
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All-TigerNet [5706]
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I like the idea of using time outs to stop the behavior
Oct 17, 2024, 2:03 PM
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I can’t take credit for this, but I saw someone propose that a team would be charged a timeout for every injured player that could not remove themselves from the field of play.
Once the offending team’s timeouts are depleted, then timeouts would be given to their opponent.
They even went into detail about the application of the rule change (injuries resulting from penalties such as roughing the passer, targeting, illegal hands to the face, face mask, blocks in the back, chop blocks, late hits, or unnecessary roughness would not be subject to loss of timeouts)
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Top TigerNet [29821]
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That used to be the rule. But, it was changed for player safety.
Oct 17, 2024, 2:24 PM
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As it should have been.
When a player was truly injured he was "encouraged" to try as hard as possible to get off the field so that the team would not have to burn a timeout.
So, they changed the rules they didn't force the team to use a timeout due to injury. You don't want a guy crawling off the field with a torn ACL because you want to save the timeout.
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All-TigerNet [5706]
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Or we could just give kiffin and lifetime ban***
Oct 17, 2024, 4:02 PM
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National Champion [8074]
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Fake injury is dealt with as follows:
Oct 17, 2024, 3:04 PM
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Coach/player suspended remainder of current game!! Coach is the head honcho of each team and is therefore responsible for such actions and it is coached to lay down and play injured.
If it is in 2nd half of the game, the coach & player will not be allowed to coach/play the 1st half of the next game. Unlike the targeting call where only the player is penalized, the coach also gets booted for the next games 1st half.
University has to send a handwritten apology, from the head coach, about how irresponsible and immoral faking an injury is. It needs to be stamped and sealed with the official emblem of that higher learning institution and accompanied by a $10 gift card to the local Applebees for each member of that football team can share in some redemption for such an egregious act suffered by them at the hands of such a terrible fake injury.
Also, the players Mom/Dad need to call the opposing head coach and sing an apologetic song from the heart about how remorseful they are for what their child did.
Consequences are how we all learn. Consequences shall be suffered by all who forge into the fire that is the fake injury plague of 2024!!!! Let the embers burn hot upon all those who feel the urge to step over that boundary
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Paw Warrior [4755]
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Re: Fake injury solution.
Oct 18, 2024, 10:09 AM
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Perhaps just until the next 1st down ??
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Orange Phenom [14555]
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There's just alot of collateral damage there
Oct 18, 2024, 10:15 AM
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QBs pretty frequently come out for one play after getting hit. Losing your starting QB for an entire possession is a massive blow for most teams.
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Re: Fake injury solution.
Oct 18, 2024, 10:31 AM
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You get 1 “freebie” per half then the team either must use a timeout or take a 5-yd penalty. That would stop it immediately. I might make an exception for a head injury situation but then the play has to sit (at least) the rest of the series.
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Re: Fake injury solution.
Oct 18, 2024, 12:56 PM
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At the end of the game, run a walk-on out on the field as a 12th man and run some time off the clock, fake an injury so your defense can get a set play to combat a hail Mary ..... and then celebrate!
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National Champion [8074]
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Sounds sketchy, and familiar LOL
Oct 18, 2024, 1:03 PM
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talk about sportsmanship, what a ploy!
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