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So fake and lacking of intellectual capacity

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Nov 21, 2021, 5:39 PM
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Re: Rittenhouse. These a-holes spew these vague and divisive statements. They use no facts. Do they know the facts? Or do they care?

Buttigieg, back from his time off futt-bucking his boyfriend, makes remarks about pain and arousal:

"Look, there’s a lot of pain in this country, and that pain and that frustration was aroused by the entire case, including the verdict," Buttigieg said. "And for a lot of us, there’s just a lot to be upset about, a lot to be concerned about, but we’ll move forward as a country.

"The president continues to believe and this administration continues to believe in America and we’ve got to continue working to bring Americans together," he said.

Buttigieg’s comments on the trial were similar to those of President Biden, who said in a statement Friday that the verdict "will leave many Americans feeling angry and concerned, myself included."


Pathetic people that should not be in influential positions.

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Nov 21, 2021, 5:48 PM
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I can see why people would be frustrated that are anti roaming the streets with AR15's like Kyle did, but I cant understand why some are frustrated with the verdict. There was never a case there.

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Nov 21, 2021, 6:41 PM
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“I can see why people would be frustrated that are anti roaming the streets with AR15’s like Kyle did,”. Couldn’t we argue the same about the public/private-property-destroying, people-injuring “protesters”? For those claiming K.R. shouldn’t have been there, who decides it is or is not acceptable for citizens to help protect their community and fellow citizens? The law? The law said it was okay for K.R. to be there (armed), so I too can’t understand why some are frustrated with the verdict.

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Nov 21, 2021, 6:56 PM
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I don't like the protesters, nor do I think Kyle should be have been there as he was. That said, he was acting in self defense.

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Nov 22, 2021, 10:45 PM
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I wish people would stop calling attackers and arsonists, protestors.

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Nov 21, 2021, 5:53 PM
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“There’s just a lot to be upset about, a lot to be concerned about”….even if we can’t factually and accurately name it. In other words, we’re just upset because that’s what we do.

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Nov 21, 2021, 5:55 PM
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They might be just using it to focus on some gun laws. Who knows?

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Nov 21, 2021, 6:02 PM
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That’s the goal of all of this. That’s why they keep intentionally misstating the thing about him taking a weapon across state lines. That’s why they keep talking repeatedly about his “big assault weapon.” That’s why they are calling gun violence a “health emergency.” Everything is geared towards things they know they can’t win Constitutionally with 2A. They aren’t stupid and none of it happens by accident.

And what he’s likely referring to there is the continued lie that this had anything to do with racism and white supremacy or that Jacob Blake was treated unfairly.


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Nov 21, 2021, 6:22 PM
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They also acted like a skateboard wasn't a weapon. He could have been knocked out and lost his gun.

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Nov 21, 2021, 6:35 PM
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Or just flat out cracked his skull. I’ve seen enough Perry Masons and Matlocks in my lifetime lol. They always start out with somebody getting cracked over the head.

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Nov 22, 2021, 4:55 PM
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Skateboard as a weapon

https://twitter.com/Sheckyi/status/1273053586407260160

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You can't allow a prosecution to win when they say

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Nov 21, 2021, 6:14 PM
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The defendant should've let the mob attack him and “everybody takes a beating sometimes.”

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Nov 21, 2021, 6:45 PM
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SO the Naval intelligence officer with the Harvard degree is the one that is lacking intellectual capacity, or are we talking about ourselves here NC_Tiger_?

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Re: So fake and lacking of intellectual capacity

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Nov 21, 2021, 8:08 PM
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Pete B is obviously very intelligent and is a political animal with aspirations to become President.

Taking the stand he has taken will not hurt him among Democrats and would help him in a future primary.

Maybe Pete really believes what he is saying.

However, the facts remain that Rittenhouse was legally able to carry the weapon he had in Kenosha.

Rittenhouse was not an indiscriminate shooter. When confronted he retreated. The pathologist testified that Rosenbaum had wounds consistent with attempting to take the weapon from Rittenhouse and pursued Rittenhouse along with a host of people.

Rittenhouse shot Huber after he was struck in the head and neck region with a skateboard at least once and was threatening further violence.

The third person shot in the biceps was only shot when he aimed a pistol at Rittenhouse, not before, and Rittenhouse did not shoot him again after the threat was removed.

Rittenhouse then retreated towards the police. He shot 3 people who attacked him, no one else.

Was Rittenhouse stupid to be in the streets armed with an AR-15 and 30 rounds? Absolutely.

Were the mayor of Kenosha and the Governor of WI negligent in not putting down the violence?

Were the politicians and media honest in their portrayal of the Jacob Blake shooting?

Are Biden and Harris making the situation worse by expressing their opinions that this was not a legally proper outcome?

There are a lot of things to be upset over, but Tbalm what would you have found Rittenhouse guilty of?

Sure, extremely poor judgment was made by Rittenhouse to hit the streets, but sticking strictly to the legal facts, it is difficult for me to see anything but this being a case of self defense.

There are those on the right who will promote Rittenhouse as a hero. He is not.

There are those on the left who will promote the verdict for their own purposes.

The jury indeed was extremely deliberate in their consideration of the facts and I feel the system worked.

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Nov 21, 2021, 8:19 PM
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Wahoo! I literally went line by line and didn't disagree with a thing you said, man.

Again...I think the kid went there to get on the scoreboard, but the law's the law...and by Wisconsin law, and given the lead-footed prosecutor who went after Rittenhouse, it's hard to see how he didn't beat the charges as they were presented.

Had he gone after lesser charges to begin with, taken the case as actually stood by law, I think a savvier prosecutor might have made the case Rittenhouse bore at least some share of the blame for effectively deputizing himself and being in the position of blasting away on a street with zero symbols of authority, thus contributing to the notion he was an active shooter. But he didn't...and the kid beat the charges he was charged with, and them's the breaks. The law's an imperfect instrument but it's the one we have. Deal with it, haterz.

Joe and the Dem establishment - which includes Pete - come across as haterz for questioning that, and it isn't good form. I thought we were all about "honoring the law" here, not political perception?

You get the idea Pete is almost cravenly afraid to be on the wrong side of any race issue and is diligently collecting every racial brownie point he can, the better to get Jim Clyburn's blessing next time, as opposed to getting blown up after winning the first couple of races in the circuit. I don't like that much and it makes me...feel less about him, and I doubt it works anyhow. It's insincere.

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Nov 24, 2021, 10:43 PM
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Why you think Rittenhouse was there doesn't mean Jack Squat and you are insinuating it's unlikely for anyone at all to be there for the reasons Rittenhouse stated. Shame on you.
I'd love to get on the scoreboard myself because I think that's what millions deserve but I don't have the courage to act on my convictions.
GOD #### the Marxists.

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Nov 21, 2021, 8:29 PM
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Excellent post.

“Are Biden and Harris making the situation worse by expressing their opinions that this was not a legally proper outcome?”

Of course. Are they simply pandering to their base, or is it more sinister? I’m no longer sure. Biden ran on, then reiterated during his inauguration speech, reunifying a sharply divided Nation. His actions and language since have suggested otherwise.

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Nov 21, 2021, 8:56 PM
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What is upsetting and troubling to people is that, although Rittenhouse broke no laws, his behavior was reprehensible in that he had no business being there and contributed to the circumstances that left two people dead. His not having to take any legal accountability whatsoever for his actions is upsetting and troubling to some, as much so as it is to call a 17-year-old brandishing a deadly weapon, out past his bead time, a hero. None of you would let your own children do this, so let's not go calling this kid something that he is not.

The laws are what is at issue here, in that a self-defense argument can literally be defined in the exact context of the killing itself, and not what led up to it. The laws are such that if a person wanted to provoke another, then play the pussy and claim their life was in danger after killing others, then it is legal, and there is a problem there. If you do not believe that his actions could be considered a provocation, then this will not make any sense to you. But to a lot of people, walking around in public with an assault rifle is a show of intimidation, and bad form, even more so at a riot where emotions are charged. it is just plain stupid, to be honest, I think that was lost on Rittenhouse, I think he is that stupid.

That si why this entire thing is a tragedy, and not a heroic act.

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Nov 21, 2021, 9:55 PM
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You said it yourself

Even more so at a riot where emotions are high

It’s almost like he brought a gun to gunfight….

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Nov 21, 2021, 11:11 PM
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He had every right to be there just as the protestors did. Some protestors even bring their kids out with them which is insane.

Rittenhouse didn’t break any laws nor was that his intent.

You’re right I wouldn’t let a 17 yo go there if he was my kid. A few months later and nobody could stop him from being there.

This is an interesting read about the three that were shot. They all had troubled pasts with apparently some mental issues too (no surprise). While the article says and I have said as well that these crimes don’t have any legal bearing on the case, you can’t read all this with any common sense and conclude that these were good people who were there to do good deeds and at the same time vilify Rittenhouse. Honestly the Rosenbaum guy should have still been in prison and maybe he’d be alive today. However, once again our system of prosecuting and incarcerating real criminals failed us and he was free.

https://www.wisconsinrightnow.com/2021/03/12/kenosha-shooting/?amp=1

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Nov 24, 2021, 10:48 PM
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What about the laws the rioters broke? Blake himself admitted the Police account of his interaction with them was accurate. Ten thousand grown men should've already taken care of the situation before Kyle Rittenhouse got close to a decision to go. Your politically correct sentiments are abominable. Get help.

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Nov 21, 2021, 8:43 PM
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SO the Naval intelligence officer with the Harvard degree is the one that is lacking intellectual capacity, or are we talking about ourselves here NC_Tiger_?




Well... I'll take this on as a 27 year active duty vet and a retired Army Officer. Almost all military officers earn their officer's commission through one of 3-ways: Graduating from a Service Academy, ROTC, or OCS (Officer Candidate School). The Navy also has a program where exceptionally high performing and talented senior Naval NCO's are directly commissioned to Ensign through their LDO (Limited Duty Officer) program. Any officer who receives their commission through these aforementioned sources has earned it through extensive and often intense training that includes field time in their particular service.

Pete Buttigieg skipped all that — no obstacle courses, no weapons training, no evaluation of his ability or willingness to lead. Nope - old Pete got his commission the same way Hunter Biden, Sean Spicer, and Reince Prebus did - through the Navy Reserves direct commissioning program. Paperwork, a health exam and a background check were all it took to make these folks Naval officers.

So while I'll give Buttigieg minimal credit for at least taking a military officer's oath, there really isn't much more about his military service that earns any respect from me and most others that earned our commissions. If you serve long enough, eventually you'll run into one of these politically connected clowns playing military dress up and it doesn't take long to see the type of officer you are dealing with...

Quite frankly, Congress needs to stop the abuses of the direct commissioning program. It was originally intended to allow the services to quickly fill much needed, but rare skills absent in the military such as Medical Specialists and Specialty Surgeons. Unfortunately it has become a favored program by those politically connected and who wish to bolster their political resumes with the characterization of "having served". In reality it is a BS cheap/low risk way of getting credit for commissioned military service and ultimately a slap in the face to those of us who earned it through years of training and honing our craft.

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Nov 21, 2021, 11:51 PM
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I can understand why you feel that way, but it is worth noting Pete did go into a war zone there in Afghanistan, and served there for seven months.

I mean, he might have been playing a role and doing it for the political brownie points - you get the idea he's a dude who meticulously checks the boxes - but serving in Afghanistan means you mean it, really hard.

And the dude is bright. He speaks seven languages and he'd definitely be an asset as an intelligence officer...which was his posting. The dude's a verified genius and Rhodes Scholar - which certainly qualifies him for the "rare talents the service can't get any other way" clause you were talking about, and apparently his job was putting the squeeze on Taliban drug trafficking...and he said himself he "expected to be in a desk job staring at a computer", but instead his records show he had to leave the compound he was stationed 119 times, often to meet with intelligence assets. Afghanistan wasn't real good at E-mail, apparently.

The guy might have intended to get himself a "I served" participation sticker. Instead he actually ended up actually serving (possibly against his own wishes.)

If going to Afghanistan and playing tag with the Taliban doesn't qualify the guy for "actual service", I'm not really sure what will, you know? Question his intent all you want, but the guy's no coward. He put his money where his mouth was...and actually went and did it, which is a whole lot more than most of our politicians do.
Still doesn't mean I like his pandering to these divisive racial politics we all seriously need to tamp down. Does anyone but me remember a time when America strove to be color-blind?

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Nov 22, 2021, 5:00 PM
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The guy is an idiot. He might test well on a particular exam that you believe is worthy, and maybe he went to a school that you believe is for smart people, but he's a loser, partisan hack that is out of touch with reality.

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Nov 21, 2021, 8:48 PM
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If she's a screamer, she'll get you arrested.


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Nov 21, 2021, 8:28 PM
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..believe his degree was in Aeronautical Engineering; got tossed from squadron and navy because he was enough of a maverick in the air that he didn't play well on a team. Now, I'm assuming he was intelligent. But sometimes that's no guarantee that you're intelligent in all areas. Would anyone here want Pete Buttgeig to perform open heart surgery on them? I sure wouldn't. On the other hand Pete may have made a wonderful ONI type.

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Nov 21, 2021, 10:15 PM
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the KR situation. Frustrated that he put himself in a position to likely be able to have to act in self defense.

we will never know what would have happened if he hadn't not have been there with his weapon. Would those that were shot have still be alive today? probably, but we won't know. Would they have harmed someone? or someone's property? no idea. were the upstanding citizens? I don't know...and that's not really a part of this...did they act in threatening manor toward KR? sounds like it. Was KR reasonably afraid for his life? again, probably since he's a child (or so he claimed). Should he have kept his ### at home for that very reason? IMO - absolutely so. And that's what is frustrating to me.

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Nov 21, 2021, 10:32 PM
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We know for a fact they weren’t upstanding citizens. All three had rapsheets including some pretty bad crimes. One was a child molester with multiple victims. As you said none of that is relevant to the legal argument.

Let’s simplify this and make him 4 months older and 18, legal adult age. Does that change it in your mind? He would then be doing the exact same thing as the other armed people were that were there.

He had a Constitutional right to be there just as the protestors did. WI law said he had the right to carry a long gun. He said in the trial that he would have preferred a pistol but he knew he definitely couldn’t legally carry one. Why is KR putting himself in that position to have to use self defense different than any of the out of state boneheads that were there to do damage? They were there from the outset to break laws. KR was not.

Would all this change it for you if he was 4 months older and had a concealed permit for a pistol? Grosskreutz (one of the three adults) did not have a legal permit for his pistol.

So in the end, I wouldn’t have let him go there as his parent if he was 17. If he was 18, I couldn’t do a thing to stop him. The jury decided none of that mattered and recognized the basic legal concept that people have the right to defend themselves from death or serious harm. That’s all that really matters legally no matter how much people try to create a false narrative or attribute bad things to KR. Not saying you’re doing that as you seem actually conflicted on the issue. But there are people out there intentionally doing that so that people are conflicted and to create division.

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Plus: KR was not the only one there with an AR-15...

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Nov 21, 2021, 11:09 PM
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Some of his buddies were equally armed (including the former army infantryman), and they also moved from one location to another. If the mere act of toting an AR-15 was provocative, why wasn't the infantryman, similarly armed, or others, attacked? Other than toting the weapon, what specifically did KR do to prompt an attack, initially by RosenNut? My gut tells me KR was targeted and attacked because he was a very young looking, under sized kid and RosenNut and the boys were bullies. After all, Rosenhimer had earlier beaten the absolute crap outta his gf, Huber attacked both of his younger siblings and Grosskrutz slapped an elderly lady. They thought they were going to get away with hammering KR...which turned out to be a HUGE mistake.

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Nov 22, 2021, 5:02 PM
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Do these guys have a reason to be where they are carrying all these weapons?

https://twitter.com/tariqnasheed/status/1279584122956988418

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Preparing to shoot themselves


Nov 22, 2021, 5:13 PM
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You can’t make that up

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I've no problem with all those black dudes showing up armed.

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Nov 24, 2021, 9:13 PM
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So long as I, or other ethnics, are given the same rights. I have nothing to fear from them and they have nothing to fear from me. I'm a peace lover, have and always will be; I don't commit crimes and I don't screw with people or take their stuff.....

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The President should support the results of the criminal

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Nov 22, 2021, 8:50 AM
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justice system. Not doing so foments a lack of trust among the American people.

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