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Asst Coach [853]
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Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 6, 2022, 1:37 PM
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Pay the players. Make the players employees and sign a 4 year contract with the school. There still would be NIL offers to the initial recruits, but employees locked into contracts would have a hard time jumping at a better offer a year later.
This way a 3 star recruit that becomes an All-American can truly make money off of his/her NIL and not boosters trying to entice them to leave for another school.
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All-In [10785]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 6, 2022, 1:49 PM
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South Carolina is still a Right to Work state I think so that would be a no go here unless the law changes.
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Dynasty Maker [3283]
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Contractual obligations don't disappear just b/c
Jan 6, 2022, 1:53 PM
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of the protections of right-to-work laws. That said, there could/would be strikes at some point. Paying players is a hideously bad idea, though.
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Orange Blooded [2242]
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Re: Contractual obligations don't disappear just b/c
Jan 6, 2022, 4:09 PM
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thats why schools arent paying them.
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Ring of Honor [23683]
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Right to work but doesn't always work fairly for teachers..
Jan 6, 2022, 1:55 PM
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For example, teachers in SC can be fired for no reason (Right to Work law); however, can lose their educator license if they leave in the middle of a school year.
I am all for "Right to Work" but it needs to work in both directions without penalty.
It's amazing there aren't more teacher shortages than there are now in SC. I am making double what I got paid there working in a developing country I might add.
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Tiger Titan [50655]
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And they wonder why more people don’t want to be teachers.
Jan 6, 2022, 4:18 PM
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Thank you for being an educator!
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Orange Blooded [2242]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 6, 2022, 4:08 PM
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you mean like the contracts with the schools like coaches have that they can tear into pieces and throw out overnight?
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Ring of Honor [22331]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 6, 2022, 4:29 PM
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With coaches it's a little different. The NCAA has the ability to control eligibility and say, for example, a player in breach of contract becomes ineligible even if they do manage to repay the contract.
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Orange Blooded [2242]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 6, 2022, 4:34 PM
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Do you really think the NCAA has the brain power to handle something like that?
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Orange Immortal [66454]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 6, 2022, 4:41 PM
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LOL! The answer to that has always been obvious.
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Orange Blooded [2242]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 6, 2022, 4:41 PM
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That just opens up a huge can of worms. What if the kid is dedicated to his school work but just isn't smart enough for college or can't manage being full time at both and he fails out or has career ending injuries. Who is the NCAA to say that the kid now needs to pay back *company name* for being in a commercial or whatever they did ?
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Ring of Honor [22331]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 6, 2022, 4:27 PM
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You beat me to it. Didn't see this before I posted my topic.
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110%er [3717]
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Am I wrong?
Jan 6, 2022, 4:48 PM
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I swear I thought NIL was started as just that...name, image and likeness. I have no issues with a player staring in a Car Dealership commercial. If a company wants to pay them for advertising, or t-shirt deals, great!
What I don't understand is where did it morph into Pay for Play? I don't think it was ever the intent.
Or am I wrong??
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Standout [345]
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Re: Am I wrong?
Jan 6, 2022, 7:57 PM
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It wasn't the intent but there is nothing in place currently to stop people from abusing it and turning it into pay for play.
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110%er [3677]
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Schools paying players is a complete non-starter...
Jan 6, 2022, 5:28 PM
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and not even worth discussing.
There would be explosive public outrage if state-funded institutions even proposed paying players.
LOL, just think about it for about 5 seconds.
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110%er [3677]
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Schools paying players is a complete non-starter...
Jan 6, 2022, 5:46 PM
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and not even worth discussing.
There would be explosive public outrage if state-funded institutions even proposed paying players.
LOL, just think about it for about 5 seconds.
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Game Changer [1830]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 7, 2022, 8:01 AM
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The players are paid....bottom line has always been that the reason to play college football is to get an increasingly expensive college education for free. The vast majority of college football players do not get to go to the pro's, but what they do get is a degree without paying a student load for the next 15-20 years like everyone else.
The real solution is to stop letting players that cannot legitimately qualify for college get into college because they can play football.
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Game Changer [1830]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 7, 2022, 8:07 AM
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Or how about trying this.
If a college gets government funds they can't pay any coach more than $500K and must demonstrate that the millions of dollars generated by football programs go to reducing the cost of tuition for everyone.
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National Champion [7831]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 7, 2022, 8:18 AM
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How likely is it that high school kids will continue to wait for that Clemson offer when other P5 schools are promising millions to them?
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Orange Phenom [14752]
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Schools already provide players with adequate compensation.
Jan 7, 2022, 8:25 AM
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It's called 4 years of free tuition and fees, free books, a free place to live and free meals. Add all the extras to the basic "free education" that these players get (gyms, tutors, medical coverage etc...) and at most schools that equates to $80k or more a year - more money than I made in a single year for 50% of my Army career. That free education used to mean something but not in today's narcissistic, all about me world.
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110%er [6825]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 7, 2022, 11:45 AM
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The NCAA going after players is basically a no-go. That is what has gotten them in trouble.
But they NCAA can dictate terms to the schools as far as the results from the game. Basically eligibility on the school.
IF the NCAA want to get involved on this front, then they would basically design a "cap" similar to scholarships. So that a school can not field a team with more than (lets say) 30 million in endorsement deals. It does not hard limit what a student can pull in but it would impact what a school could place on the field and remain eligible for the game to be "of record". Since disclosing income is not an unreasonable request for scholarships etc, it can be tracked by the school. I mean you do have to disclose income for federal aid and than can be tied into a players contract.
Thus if Texas turns up with a roster making 100M vs Rice of 2 mill - Rice gets the result... but Rice would win anyways because it is Texas...
As for transfers, they could reinstate the 1 year rule if they chose to do so....
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110%er [6692]
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Re: Simple solution to NIL and transfer issues.
Jan 7, 2022, 11:48 AM
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They should also make it so the player can't get the money until after their 3rd year. It will be waiting for them.
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