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Not sure if P&R, but book selection at Barnes and Noble
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Not sure if P&R, but book selection at Barnes and Noble


Jan 6, 2022, 10:38 AM

So, I grew up going to Barnes and Noble nearly every weekend with my dad for a few hours and looking at the books, toys, and magazines. I have had a large fascination with the Civil War since I was a kid, so I spent most of my time in the dedicated Civil War section. Typically, the shelves were stocked with books about everything to do with the Civil War, including, but not limited to general summaries, memoirs from foot soldiers, books about and written by generals on both sides, Lincoln, the confederate government all the way to Reconstruction.

I have been getting back into reading of late, so I swung by the other day and noticed the Civil War section at B&N has been reduced to about half a column of shelves. The book I was interested in, "From Manassas to Appomattox by James Longstreet wasn't there, so I looked around the other books and it is nothing like it used to be. 90% of the books are about Lincoln, Grant, slavery, and Reconstruction.

This left me thinking about the reasoning behind it:

-Is the interest in the Civil War waning?
-Have books about the south/southern soldiers been taken off the shelves due to the recent political climate?
-Maybe this is just an overall approach by B&N to cut down on overhead and reduce the amount of books they're sitting on?

Id say its probably a combination of all three to some extent. Most of the Civil War books, including all of the ones about the south/confederacy typically have at least one confederate flag on the front cover, so I could understand B&N wouldn't want that front facing toward their average customer who is probably left leaning and could find it "offensive". I also know that publishing books is dumb expensive right now and most readers are shifting away from paper copies of books, so that could explain the reduced availability.

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Re: Not sure if P&R, but book selection at Barnes and Noble


Jan 6, 2022, 10:44 AM

Most women are not interested in war books, and the average B&N man-bun dude can only read 280 characters at a time.

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Jan 6, 2022, 10:47 AM

It's about 20 years old, but I think still relevant, is a great read for you: Confederates in the Attic. A Yankee Civil War journalist nut takes a tour through the South to get a better feel for why the South still obsesses over it and how it still affects our culture. Loaded with interviews with notable figures and just random people he finds along the way. It's a phenomenal read and a must for every Southerner.

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Jan 6, 2022, 10:52 AM

I just had that book delivered yesterday

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I have ALWAYS seen that book, but never grabbed it


Jan 6, 2022, 10:55 AM [ in reply to Side comment ]

I am more interested in the actual history of the war as opposed to the socio-economic implications it has on modern day society. I feel like college aged me would have liked it because I was all about "TSWRA" and "Lost Cause" mindset. I was actually tempted to purchase it the other day.

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Jan 6, 2022, 11:28 AM

It's great because he delves into the history quite well, but he also spends time with people who live by it. Goes out with diehard reenactors to the battles. He almost gets beat up in a bar just because they know he's a Yankee outsider. It's not just about the folks who won't let it die (they're in there), but just about why it's still so important to Southern culture and kind of dissects our Southern DNA as well. Even has great interviews with descendants of slaves who work in museums that honor Confederate figures.

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Jan 6, 2022, 10:54 AM



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Read them all


Jan 6, 2022, 10:56 AM

Great books. Intriguing look... but as you know...

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Re: Not sure if P&R, but book selection at Barnes and Noble


Jan 6, 2022, 11:24 AM

I'd say all of the above. Time has a way of mythologizing history and the farther people are removed from it the more it fades away. When I was young my grandma told us about how her grandma had to bury the silver in the back yard as Sherman approached. But those stories are told less and less now.

I struck up a conversation once with an old timer reading a WW2 book about it once. I'm interested in almost everything, so I asked him what his interests were. "Only where I was at" he replied. He could have cared less about the Pacific, the Mediterranean, or Russia. He was in Patton's 3rd and that's what he was interested in. Travelled back to Europe to meet old friends, swap stories, relive his youth.

Current political and economic climate has an impact too. And just finding a new angle probably, too. Already an awful lot written about it, so new coverage has to be more niche, or a retelling of what has already been covered.

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I appreciate your last point about the rehashing of it all


Jan 6, 2022, 11:32 AM

You can only tell so many stories in so many different ways.

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Re: Not sure if P&R, but book selection at Barnes and Noble


Jan 6, 2022, 11:29 AM

I'm sure you have seen the Ken Burns Civil War doc, but if not you should watch it.

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Bits and pieces


Jan 6, 2022, 11:33 AM

He has come under a lot of heat lately for his stuff because he is a Lost Causer and denies the impact slavery had on the war.

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this may or may not interest you


Jan 6, 2022, 12:17 PM

and I'm sure some folks will call me names b/c of it, but idc

I have an Pulitzer prize edition print of Douglas Southall Freeman's 4 part Robert E Lee biography that was handed down to me from my grand father. These were written in the late 30s. Kind of cool, IMO.

I haven't gotten around to reading them yet, as they were just given to me recently after he passed away.

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On the topic of books, I still buy hard paper copies. I look at screens enough throughout my day, and enjoy actually flipping through the paper instead. Having copies of old books will likely be my old man art besides my random hippie jam band concert posters.

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Jan 6, 2022, 12:35 PM

Those are probably of some real value. For years, Freeman's stuff was a definitive go-to for anyone looking for more than surface treatment stuff. The bio and Lee's Lieutenants for sure.

On the topic of retelling, that wouldn't be a bad angle for a book in itself...something along the lines of "Retelling the Civil War though the Years."

I know the Lost Causers got their shot first in the late 1800's with all of the Confed General biographies and recriminations on why they lost - some pretty brutal blame was tossed on each other. I was up at Kennesaw over the summer and they had a display on the post war reunions - where clearly reconciliation and moving on was the main focus, at any cost - even above Reconstruction and the accepting of Jim Crow. And of course, Lincoln famously said union above everything else - something horribly paraphrased along the lines of "I'll take a union without slavery, or a union with it, but it must be a union."

Same thing happened after WW2. The Soviets, behind the iron curtain, couldn't get their stories out. So it was the Germans who got to tell their side first in the 50's and 60's in their biographies, and that became the broadly accepted reality of the East Front till it was balanced in the 90's after the collapse of the Soviets.

Winning the battle of telling history is not unlike Forrest's advice on winning battles - "get there the firstus with the mostus"

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Thats pretty dang cool


Jan 6, 2022, 2:02 PM [ in reply to this may or may not interest you ]

As a fellow fraternity man, I know you probably have a similar view for RE Lee as I do. I read "Robert E. Lee" by Emory Thomas, which is very highly regarded, even if he leans into RE Lee the "legend" slightly. I think that even with his decision to fight on behalf of the Confederate States, hes one of the greatest Americans that has ever lived.

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Hey


Jan 6, 2022, 2:09 PM [ in reply to this may or may not interest you ]

Is it snowing there yet?

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It's not PC to learn real history. You know. b/c it's HIS


Jan 6, 2022, 2:16 PM

story.

Similarly, I have a travel magazine I am subscribed to and just recently noticed ALL the places profiled or mentioned had some line about LGBTQ friendliness, indigenous or Black history, etc.

Otherwise, B&N HAS reduced the number of books on the shelves since COVID. Ours is arranged different than it used to be and there are fewer books overall.

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