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Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 04/22/2024
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Announced Returning:
Aiden Swanson
Walker Parks
Barrett Carter
Tyler Venables
Paul Tyson
RJ Mickens
Trent Howard
Phil Mafah
Total: 8
Have not announced portal, assumed returning:
Chris Vizzina
Cade Klubnik
Jarvis Green
Jamarius Haynes
Keith Adams Jr.
Noble Johnson
Misun Kelley
Ronan Hanafin
Cole Turner
Tyler Brown
Josh Sapp
Antonio Williams
Adam Randall
Markus Dixon
Olsen Patt-Henry
Ian Reed
Harris Sewell
Collin Sadler
Blake Miller
Stephiylan Green
Vic Burley
Caden Story
Peter Woods
Jahiem Lawson
Tomarrion Parker
AJ Hoffler
Dee Crayton
Kobe McCloud
Jamal Anderson
Wade Woodaz
Robert Billings
Kylen Webb
Kylon Griffin
Khalil Barnes
Sherrod Covil
Branden Strozier
Myles Oliver
Avieon Terrell
Shelton Lewis
Jeadyn Lukus
Robert Gunn
Jack Smith
Troy Stellato
Jake Briningstool
Ryan Linthicum
Dietrick Pennington
Triston Leigh
Marcus Tate
Tre Williams
DeMonte Capehart
Payton Page
Cade Denhoff
Holden Caspersen
Zaire Patterson
Sammy Brown
Bryant Wesco
TJ Moore
Christian Bentancur
Darien Mayo
Ricardo Jones
Corian Gipson
Tavoy Feagin
Noah Dixon
David Eziomume
Hevin Brown-Shuler
Champ Thompson
Ashton Hampton
Ronan O'Connell
Drew Woodaz
Watson Young
Joe Wilkerson
CJ Kubah-Taylor
Elyjah Thurman
Mason Wade
Nolan Hauser
Total: 75
Eligibility Expired/Announced NFL Draft:
Ruke Orhorhoro
Tyler Davis
Xavier Thomas
Justin Mascoll
Sheridan Jones
Will Putnam
Jeremiah Trotter Jr.
Nate Wiggins
Jalyn Phillips
John Williams
Will Shipley
Bryn Tucker
Total: (12)
Entered Portal:
Mitchell Mayes (UNC Charlotte)
Hunter Helms (Rhode Island)
Dominique Thomas (Georgia State)
Beaux Collins (Notre Dame)
Sage Ennis (Virginia)
Andrew Mukuba (Texas)
David Ojiegbe (Pitt)
Toriano Pride (Missouri)
Brannon Spector (Jacksonville State)
Lannden Zanders
Zechariah Owens
Adam Kissayi
Total: (12)
Announced Returning: 8
Assumed Returning: 75
Expired/Draft: -12
Lost to portal: -12
Net Total for 2024: 83
Incoming Portal
Offers out:
Alan Herron OT - Visit Dec 15th - (has committed to Penn St.)
Keylan Rutledge OL - Dec 9 - (car wreck, visit rescheduled, has committed to GT)
Addison Nichols OT - Visit Dec 15th (has committed to Arkansas)
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Edited to show Walker Parks announcement.
Edited to show Jalyn Phillips out of Eligibility
Edited to add Trent Howard
Edited to add Portal section
Edited to add Barrett Carter Announced Returning
Edited to add Paul Tyson to Covid Year list
Edited to show Herron committed to Penn St.
Edited to show Rutledge committed to GT
Edited to show Paul Tyson returning
Edited to add Joe Wilkerson
Edited to add CJ Kubah-Taylor
Edited to add Elyjah Thurman and Mason Wade
Edited to add RJ Mickens Announced Returning
Edited to add John Williams moving on
Edited to add Trent Howard Announced Returning
Edited to add Brannon Spector to portal
Edited to add Will Shipley Declared for NFL
Edited to add Bryn Tucker moving on
Edited to add Phil Mafah announced returning
Edited to move draft eligible players to "assumed returning"
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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Thank you. Great work.
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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I thought Mickens could return. Was I wrong?
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Word is NFL or portal but yes he can return***
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Re: Word is NFL or portal but yes he can return***
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He should return could be helpful with loss of mukuba
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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Will Paul Tyson count as a player scholarship? I thought Dabo described him as a grad assistant coach that could play due to having a year of eligibility left.
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Hadn't thought of that.
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Could it possibly be thAt, he's a GA all year,unless needed and never counted unless put into action ?
I don't know,that's why I posed the question ???????
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Re: Hadn't thought of that.
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No. You can't just "find" a scholarship for him mid-year.
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Re: Hadn't thought of that.
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Wouldn’t Tyson just retain his position as a GA and whatever academic benefits it provides while playing as a walk on? Anyone know how it worked at USC when the GA became a QB?
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Re: Hadn't thought of that.
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Anybody enrolled in the school can play on the team, as long as they have eligibility left. Doesn't matter if you are a GA, a soccer player, a scholarship recruit, or some kid from the 5th floor of Byrnes playing video games.
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Re: Hadn't thought of that.
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You don't have to be on scholarship to play
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Thanks, this must have taken a good bit of time.***
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With only 2 schollies, you're just pointing out excuses for not using the portal
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but he's putting forth some new effort
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in a very old topic. GOtta give him credit for the effort.
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If we are any number under the total # of Net scholarships
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then there would be ZERO reasons to not use the portal
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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I thought Parks said he was coming back as soon as his injury was announced? Or do I have him confused with someone else?
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That's why Parks is still
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Included in the 83...
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Re: That's why Parks is still
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My point is that he is listed in one of the "has not announced" categories. My bad.
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Dabo said something about Parks returning earlier in the year
Dec 6, 2023, 10:49 AM
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but I haven't heard anything from Parks himself so he's still listed as unannounced but still included in returning scholarships.
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Thanks! I'll update***
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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Good job! I guess the net of it is, it depends on how many guys announce they are leaving as to how many portal opportunities we could have. We also are still chasing a couple of '24 HS recruits which could take up those 2 remaining scholarships. I know we have 1 OL set to announce shortly.
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man that is just too much work..
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you sure are motivated.
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Ring of Honor [22331]
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I started the list earlier in the year. I just keep updating it.
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Sports-reference.com and Tigernet's scholarship page makes it easy.
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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Looks like we only have 2 QBs on scholarship. We need another alternative, unless I missed a 3/4 string person. Then how do we add a WR and an OL. Man, 3s sure are tight.
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This is correct
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As of right now our only Scholarship QBs are Cade Klubnik and Chris Vizzina with no incoming commits until 2025.
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Re: This is correct
Dec 6, 2023, 12:16 PM
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Trent Pearman is a RS Fr non-scholarship- could be put on scholarship.
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I would not be surprised if we did something that dumb***
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You sure?
Dec 14, 2023, 1:32 PM
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As of right now our only Scholarship QBs are Cade Klubnik and Chris Vizzina with no incoming commits until 2025.
Paul Tyson is also on scholarship
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My comment was before it was pointed out that he had a covid year.***
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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Pride, Mukuba & Sage Ennius are players I was counting on, I’m sure Dabo knows the deal but I was looking forward to big things from them.
Sage is a good TE when healthy & great blocker, Prides potential is really high but he has to want it and Mukuba should be an All-American the next two years.
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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Jalyn Phillips shouldn't have more eligibility without a hardship waiver. He's completed 4 years (5 with the covid year).
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
Dec 6, 2023, 11:15 AM
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From my understanding RS year (2019) and 2020 don't count. That would leave 2021, 2022 and 2023 giving him one more year, no?
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He played in 14 games 2019- no RS. Hes done.***
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14 games, not 8
Dec 6, 2023, 11:26 AM
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Either way, his eligibility is exhausted.
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Re: 14 games, not 8
Dec 6, 2023, 11:34 AM
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Sports reference shows 4? Which site shows 14?
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Clemsontigers.com
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shows 14. I have edited. Thanks
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Re: 14 games, not 8
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Sports-reference only reports appearances in which a stat is collected. It's a byproduct of how they scrape stat-sheets for data. It's great for counting stats but doesn't give a necessarily accurate picture of how many games were played.
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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Getting Walker Parks backs seems huge imo.
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I thought Venables was confirmed coming back
Dec 6, 2023, 11:30 AM
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thought it was mentioned when they said he had recovered from injury anc could play some this year and still RS for next
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Thank you! This is excellent and a
Dec 6, 2023, 12:17 PM
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big help.
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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This should be pinned to the top and updated over time. Great work!
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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Might be missing Trent Howard.
We have the Scholarship Breakdown by class and position on TigerNet. It kind of lets you see where the holes are in the classes where the portal could help.
https://www.tigernet.com/view/scholarships/football.do
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I was using this link
Dec 6, 2023, 12:53 PM
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Not sure how I missed him. Thanks!
Adding him now.
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/6/23
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Question
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During Chicken game,it was said 4 Covids returning. Mayes was one and chose to go elsewhere. Who was the forth ?
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Re: Question
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Could have been Swanson or Parks.
By my research those with a Covid year were
Parks
Swanson
Spector
Venables
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/7/23
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Man, thanks for this information. This helps greatly. It seems we only got a few spots. Hope this transfer OL commits.
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Paul Tyson still has 1 year of eligibility remaining
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2019 - redshirt
2020 - covid
2021 - year 1
2022 - year 2
2023 - year 3
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You're right. Interesting. Updating.***
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Doesn't RJ have a Covid year?***
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He does but I was thinking he had already declared for the draft
Dec 8, 2023, 8:53 AM
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I put him back into the unannounced list.
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Taking the Kid from Rome sorta points to that
Dec 19, 2023, 7:14 PM
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/8/23
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Great work here, seriously! I guess the net of it for me is, essentially, if we don't see more guys announce they are leaving, we aren't going to be doing much shopping in the portal.
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/8/23
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Great work here, seriously! I guess the net of it for me is, essentially, if we don't see more guys announce they are leaving, we aren't going to be doing much shopping in the portal.
Exactly the net of it.
Clemson doesn't run off non-productive players by not renewing their scholarship.
This is a key difference with Clemson people have to get through their heads.
Either kids stick around(not transferring) or they stick around and aren't contributing much.
The kids on campus who come in and never see the field because perhaps "we missed on them in the initial evaluation" take up roster spots in other words.
At other schools(think Spurrier and Meyer) those players who never elevate their games get asked to leave or to transfer. They could stay on campus put they would have to pay for school. They could play football as walk ons. But, those scholarships get yanked in order to give to another prospect.
Dabo's moral compass won't allow him to do that. He makes committiments to these players and their parents to see it all the way through.
And, that is the difference.
These departures we see in other words especially now that very few Covid year/ Super Seniors remain are going to be huge for those wanting Clemson to utilize the portal.
Sometimes you take 2 steps back to go 4 feet forward. Hopefully for Clemson football that's the case.
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By not encouraging a kid to move on to better scenary where they may excel
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it could be a hinderance to their career. If there's a kid that will never break the 2 deep and we're stringing them along for depth instead of encouraging them to move on to a smaller school where they get more reps and development, that's a disservice to the kid.
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Do you know that they haven't been told the TRUTH ?
Dec 14, 2023, 9:43 AM
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Or is that just conjecture?
You see it every year some leaving cause they're not starting, meanwhile there will always be some that somehow never make the 2 deep, but are doing everything required and busting it trying to get better,somehow they still want to be here and ARE Family.
Always agreed with Dabo's stance that Clemson doesn't run people off,doesn't CLEAR UP roster spots. however, it is a fine line between Student/athletes knowing they're secure and them slacking off cause there's no chance of losing their ride. Clemson had gotten to the point where that was happening.
IDIOTS suggesting some type of Roster Management are just that, IDIOTS. Dabo established in HIS building of Clemson that they didn't operate that way.
Everyone in the Portal "could have" stayed ,but were told how things were and THEY decided to go elsewhere
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So then why is our "Roster Management"
Dec 14, 2023, 10:23 AM
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so different than every other team in the entire country?
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If you have to be told that,
Dec 14, 2023, 10:25 AM
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Then maybe that thread about you being a chicken had some juice to it.
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So you have no legitimate answer?
Dec 14, 2023, 10:30 AM
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You're saying that all other programs tell kids that they're not going to make it and Clemson is the only program where the kid's say ok and just stay anyway?
No clue what thread you're talking about but you obviously haven't been on this site long enough if you think I'm a chicken.
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Other schools cull the herd,players have no choice
Dec 18, 2023, 1:51 PM
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Dabo tells them the truth, they CHOOSE whether to stay ,or not. The Coaching staff bears responsibility, they're the ones that recruited these guys.
Don't have to read other threads, ANYONE no knowing that by now is gotta be part Chicken and not ALL Tiger
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Re: Other schools cull the herd,players have no choice
Dec 19, 2023, 7:18 PM
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You’re simply throwing out assumptions and conjecture based on your personal biases lol
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Actually ,if you watch ,you'll see schools carrying 90-95 players from NSD till
Dec 19, 2023, 7:22 PM
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late July.
No use in arguing ,just watch.
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Since we are still out recruiting for 2024, per posts, coaches must know of
Dec 14, 2023, 12:30 PM
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some decisions that have not been publicly announced yet? Otherwise, we are wasting a lot of University resources!
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I imagine there will be more movement after the bowl game.***
Dec 14, 2023, 1:02 PM
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/18/23
Dec 18, 2023, 4:23 PM
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bump for some seriously good content!
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/19/23
Dec 19, 2023, 6:16 PM
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I thought I saw where Tyson agreed to be a graduate coach, but remain in game shape as tbe emergency #4 qb. So no scholly for him? You may have this figured into your numbers? But thanks this is great!
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/19/23
Dec 19, 2023, 6:21 PM
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Yeah that’s discussed above. There doesn’t seem to be any concrete info on that yet.
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 12/19/23
Dec 19, 2023, 9:43 PM
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Thanks. Very helpful.
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SO, adding Thurmon and Wade this afternoon
Dec 20, 2023, 9:34 AM
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brings Clemson to 89 ?
Is that right ?
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Bryn Tucker, John Williams
Dec 21, 2023, 8:13 PM
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Dabo said yesterday they would be moving on ???????????????
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Re: Bryn Tucker, John Williams
Dec 21, 2023, 8:40 PM
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Did he? How do I Confirm?
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Re: It's not in Part 2 from yesterday,
Dec 21, 2023, 8:48 PM
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Morgan Thomas removed John Williams but still has Tucker. I’ll remove John Williams since he’s a decent source.
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Re: @ 8 minutes in this vid
Dec 21, 2023, 9:27 PM
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He said a graduate is moving on. Would that not be Putnam? I didn’t hear Tucker mentioned so not sure.
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he said a graduate that wanted to move on. Putnam didn't have a choice so
Dec 22, 2023, 12:00 PM
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that wasn't who he was referencing
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but that may have been a mitchell mayes reference so think Tucker may still be
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Dec 22, 2023, 12:25 PM
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staying
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Re: Watson Young is a preferred walk-on
Jan 2, 2024, 10:09 PM
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Where do you see that?
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Great post put together
Jan 2, 2024, 10:44 PM
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And appreciate you putting this together so we can get a feel for where we stand currently with approaching Jan 15 deadline as it’s filling up quick assuming we do not have more departures. Great work!!
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 01/03/2023
Jan 5, 2024, 8:09 PM
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Thanks again!
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 01/06/2023
Jan 9, 2024, 12:41 AM
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Bump
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 01/06/2023
Jan 12, 2024, 8:47 AM
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Well done..
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Bump***
Jan 15, 2024, 7:29 PM
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Edited***
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 01/18/2024
Jan 18, 2024, 1:56 PM
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DavidHood® who do you have that i'm missing?
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Re: Scholarship Breakdown as it stands 01/18/2024
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Great work and all but scholarship numbers are a moot point nowadays. If a team wants a guy the NIL collective makes a deal to pay for their ride plus a salary. It doesn’t have to be a scholarship for a player to sign LOI.
85 isn’t enough. It was done to give parity in recruiting. Florida WAS the biggest hotbed of talent and once upon a time Florida, Miami, and FSU were grabbing up most of the talent. The NCAA took 15 scholarships from everyone assuring 45 sunshine state players went somewhere outside of Florida. I’d kinda like to see the number move back to 100. Many kids get a college education that would have had no other route to college.
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