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Rumors around changes in the FBS
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Aug 14, 2024, 11:11 PM
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Obviously no one actually knows what's going to happen in this ever changing landscape that cfb finds itself in, but there is plenty of speculation and people who think they know a few things. Truth is, no one but the big money big wigs behind the scenes who don't give a rats ### about what college football stands for and represents know what's going to happen, and they could care less what the fans want. Which is ironic because without fans they are broke.
Anyways, about the rumor, I've heard several people say that they've heard the top 64 teams in the FBS are going to form into one single super "conference" and split the teams into NFL esque divisions. Honestly at this point nothing would surprise me and I believe just about anything is possible at this point.
If something similar to this became reality
, how would you feel about this? Not that what we think would change anything, but would you be excited about this change?
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Top TigerNet [31530]
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
Aug 14, 2024, 11:13 PM
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who are the 64? give the details. Otherwise, this is just nothing.....
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All-Pro [752]
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
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Aug 14, 2024, 11:27 PM
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It's absolutely just nothing. What else would it be? It's just a rumor and like I said in the post no one has any idea what's going to happen to college football but there are tons and tons of rumors with this being one of the many. Maybe you misunderstood that. It's just a conversation topic about what would people think IF this ever happened.
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Rival Killer [3072]
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
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Aug 14, 2024, 11:31 PM
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4 16-team leagues would make a lot of sense. 8 teams to a division, with a couple crossover and non- conference games added in.
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
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Aug 15, 2024, 12:19 AM
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Remember when the ACC was 8 teams? That was nice.
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS- yep the best
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Aug 15, 2024, 7:51 AM
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play everyone once in football and twioce in basketball
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Orange Blooded [2395]
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Varsity [108]
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
Aug 15, 2024, 11:24 AM
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Or just 8 team division within conferences? i.e.; if the SEC has 24 teams, they have 3 divisions.
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Orange Elite [5420]
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The rumor mill
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Aug 15, 2024, 1:37 AM
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Runs when all other industry has closed down. If you think the BIG and the SEC are going to willingly give up their massive power, you are deluded.
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Orange Blooded [2531]
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Re: The rumor mill
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Aug 15, 2024, 7:39 AM
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A 64 team league does not result in the SEC and Big giving up their power.
Naturally, they will have a prime seed at the table. The table will be much bigger. They will have a primary piece of a much bigger pie.
This is the way it’s going. It’s a matter of how we get there and when.
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Varsity [206]
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FWIW, 72 schools (9 schools per division)
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Aug 15, 2024, 7:42 AM
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makes the most sense. Each school would have 4 home and 4 away and still room for 4 compelling OOC games.
Or maybe you go smaller (56 schools, 7 per division) and keep some room for adding more programs later.
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In my ideal world, I like 56 better.
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Aug 15, 2024, 8:57 AM
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7 teams in each division. 3 home, 3 away.
Then, as long as I'm dreaming.
10 game regular season. Spread out so that every team gets three byes. The TB networks still get 13, or even 14 (if you stagger the start of the season over 2 weeks) weeks of games.
Top 2 teams in each division make the playoffs (16 teams). No division championship game.
The two teams that make the finals play 14 games. No one plays more.
There should be a way for those 56 teams and TV guys to figure out how to make plenty of money for everyone.
Never gonna happen, but I can dream.
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Varsity [108]
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Re: In my ideal world, I like 56 better.
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Aug 15, 2024, 11:15 AM
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the one thing I really think makes no sense after reallignment is the division/conference championship game. I know they don't want to give up $$$ but that week could be a playoff game instead
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Solid Orange [1342]
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Re: The rumor mill
Aug 15, 2024, 8:46 AM
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There may be a few teams in the SEC and BIG that wish were not there...how would you fire Northwestern or Nebraska or Indiana! Just remember Suwannee, Tulane and GA. Tech wanted out of the SEC! So called BIG 12 has gained and lost more than anyone else! All this crud started with Frank Broyles at Ark.when Texas beat em and Nixon crowned them Natty! Who knew...unhappy grass sure looks green in that pasture!
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Re: The rumor mill
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Aug 15, 2024, 7:45 AM
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I'm not deluded. I will reiterate that these are not my opinions nor do I state them as fact. It is a mere talking point intended to create conversation and spark different ideas about what people think is, in their own minds, the best direction for college football. Perhaps you are deluded in your interpretation of my post.
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
Aug 15, 2024, 7:04 AM
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When all of this mess started, Dabo stated that the top so many football teams need to be in a separate group with different rules. I honestly feel this will happen before the ACC mess is settled and will be the way that Clemson football breaks free.
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
Aug 15, 2024, 7:13 AM
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Been a rumor since at least 2014 that I can remember. Probably goes back further than that. I’ll believe it when I see it.
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Legend [6615]
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
Aug 15, 2024, 7:23 AM
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Agree but it feels different this time. The SEC and BIG appear to have started the initial structure and have started pushback against the NCAA. I am also seeing data that shows which members from those two conference need to be culled (chickens are on the bubble) and which teams need to be added. Clemson was listed as an add. I would not be surprised to see Clemson in a non ACC super football group by the 2027 season.
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
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Aug 15, 2024, 8:01 AM
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Something similar is far more likely to happen now than it was in 2014. Maybe it happens maybe it doesn't. But changes are not done being made, and whether this is the path forward is to be determined.
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I think it is inevitable -- in no world does it make sense
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Aug 15, 2024, 7:37 AM
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for programs like Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Indiana, Purdue, Rutgers, Maryland, etc to be making twice as much as brands like Clemson, FSU, Miami, Oklahoma State, etc.
The destruction of the PAC12 is the blueprint - jettison the wagon riders and cherry pick the top brands (this was all done by TV for TV). The next iteration will be more of the same but it will encompass the rest of the conferences.
It will happen, just a matter of time.
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Re: I think it is inevitable -- in no world does it make sense
Aug 15, 2024, 7:42 AM
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Grumpa is 100% correct.
The Free market will not let weak programs to continue making twice as much as strong programs.
Just a matter of how we get there and when
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Solid Orange [1342]
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Re: I think it is inevitable -- in no world does it make sense
Aug 15, 2024, 8:58 AM
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Probably right...this is big money and large contracts (we just can't figure out how to read one) free reality programing for the networks ( NIL and free agency may have killed the goose) cheating and the backbone or will of the NCAA didn't help matters either! If you are supposed to be the governing body then do it! NCAA was less than worthless, 2 conferences and the networks made them show their true colors...think NCAA will disappear like the student athlete they were supposed to protect!
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Nothing new here.***
Aug 15, 2024, 7:40 AM
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Re: Nothing new here.***
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Aug 15, 2024, 7:58 AM
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I don't claim it to be a revolutionary idea pal. If you think the post is useless then that's your prerogative, but yours is also useless. Mine was intended to spark conversation.
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Re: Nothing new here.***
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Aug 15, 2024, 9:28 AM
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I believe most on here understand your post but you
know there are a few who like to stir the pot from
the original intent.Your post is a good post, well
said. To BigTigerDad96.
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At this point, probably more a matter of "when" not "if".***
Aug 15, 2024, 9:51 AM
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That is 100% whats coming. I just think it will be hilarious if
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Aug 15, 2024, 10:05 AM
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the coots dont make the cut!
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Do you think USC-Lite is one of the top 64 football teams in the county?
Aug 15, 2024, 11:50 AM
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on an yearly basis?
I would think so, but likely in the bottom 25% of any such list (i.e., somewhere in the 49 to 64 range).
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
Aug 15, 2024, 11:20 AM
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I personally would love it. In my mind at least it brings some kind of stability. It also puts regional games back into play with some traveling. I like that. I like playing the rivals but would also like playing teams we don’t get to play. I don’t hate the NFL model I just don’t have a connection to a team.
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Varsity [108]
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
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Aug 15, 2024, 11:20 AM
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what benefit does a 64 team league have over existing? Honestly, the top group of 5 teams can easily compete with the lower tier power 5. We've seen the Boise States, Cincinnati, or Marshalls go head to head and win against very good teams. But who are we kidding when it's time to determine the top 12 playoff teams?
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You remember those because it happens so rarely
Aug 15, 2024, 11:02 PM
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There is a reason there is a p5 and a g5.
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Game Changer [1845]
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
Aug 15, 2024, 1:14 PM
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I wish something like that would happen and have for a long time.
There are 858 teams covered by NCAA football. I think it is 5 divisions currently.
If they took and divided into 22 38 team levels and played it like soccer does in Europe it would end so much controversy it would be rediculous. One champion for each league so each leagues gets some basis to work toward something that is actually attainable. Level#1 is the onbly true national champ as it would be proven to be the toughest league. Each season the two highest teams on the next lower division would have the option to move up and force the two lowest teams down.
A. It would end seeding teams or any opinion. Everyone starts 0-0 and either makes the play-off with win loss records or not. The champ would be the champ because they won thier way too it.
B. Each of the 32 teams (38 teams on level 1) would play each of the other teams in their division twice just like in the pro's.
C. Ends gimme games like when Clemson plays Wofford or Furman. Every single team has qualified to be good enough to be in your leage and you only play teams on your level.
D. Because of the levels teams don't get screwed. The recruit talent up to their level and if they do better with less they move up to the next talent pool. No needs for the UConn's of this world to try to get a Clemson level player when they need the best pool for their division.
Hurts rivalry games, but tough cookies if you want a league that is genuinely competetive as to who is the best.
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Re: Rumors around changes in the FBS
Aug 15, 2024, 2:59 PM
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Give me 3 Conferences, 24 teams per Conference, 2 Divisions per conference, play 11 conference division games, 1 non-conference or opposite division game, Conference Championship game between Division winners, and then the CFP.
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