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Remember when…

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Jul 17, 2023, 7:11 AM
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Re: Remember when…

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Jul 17, 2023, 7:16 AM

When I grew up, cell phones were not a thing.

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Re: Remember when…

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Jul 17, 2023, 7:38 AM

When I grew up …, phones were not a thing!

I never lived in a house with a phone until I became a college student. There was ONE in the lobby for anyone to use.

They just were not available in “Little Chicago” SC.

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Tesla superchargers supply DC electricity

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Jul 17, 2023, 7:33 AM

So I'm not sure what your tik toker is so worried about.

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Re: Tesla superchargers supply DC electricity

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Jul 17, 2023, 7:34 AM

I think power lines is the bugaboo

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So the electric motors that make

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Jul 17, 2023, 7:41 AM

the gas pumps go won’t work either

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Re: Tesla superchargers supply DC electricity

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Jul 17, 2023, 9:33 AM [ in reply to Re: Tesla superchargers supply DC electricity ]

There are a number of reasons why electrict cars are impracticle for most people right now:
1. Not enough electrical capacity. If everyone switched to electric cars all at once we'd need 25% more electrical capacity (more nuclear power plants).
2. The electrical grid (the distribution system) can't handle it.
3. Not enough range.
4. Not enough charging stations.
5. What do we do when the batteies wear out? Buy a new battey for a 10-year old car or scrap the car?
6 What do we do with the used batteries?Most people can't afford electric cars.
7. Only the more affluent can afford them.

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If we don't do something about global warming, we are going

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Jul 17, 2023, 8:10 AM

to destroy this world.

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Re: If we don't do something about global warming, we are going

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Jul 17, 2023, 9:49 AM

I hear it’s already too late.

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Jul 17, 2023, 8:15 AM

Just wait till theres as many electric cars as the pushers want. Won't need WWE, just take a 6pack down to the charging stations.

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I haven't used a supercharger in more than 6 months


Jul 17, 2023, 8:44 AM

I charge my vehicle overnight at home and leave every morning with 300+ miles of range. If you drive more than that each day then the current EVs aren't for you; for me it couldn't be more convenient.
BTW Toyota just announced a new battery tech that will have 700 miles of range and charge 80% in under 15 minutes. We'll see when and if that comes to fruition, but at that point there aren't any real barriers to driving EVs

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Re: I haven't used a supercharger in more than 6 months


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Cool, since we’re showing disasters from other countries


Jul 17, 2023, 9:38 AM

https://youtu.be/4TUci3lbBnU

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What happens to all the old batteries. What about the mining


Jul 17, 2023, 9:42 AM [ in reply to I haven't used a supercharger in more than 6 months ]

of materials for the batteries? Environmentally friendly??

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Recycling of EV batteries is gonna be a huge business

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Jul 17, 2023, 10:23 AM

Opportunity going forward. There’s even a plant under construction in SC that will support the new Scout EV plant in Columbia with recycled cells. Here is some info about recycling the cells in general

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a44022888/electric-car-battery-recycling/



https://www.engadget.com/redwood-materials-ev-battery-recycling-plant-south-carolina-183146247.html
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Re: I haven't used a supercharger in more than 6 months


Jul 17, 2023, 9:42 AM [ in reply to I haven't used a supercharger in more than 6 months ]

Barriers include not only the high cost of purchasing an EV but also the cost of charging infrastructure in your garage.

Concern with the cost of replacement batteries as some of us typically keep a car for ~15 years before replacement.

Concern with the sustainability of battery technology in terms of the power grid and mining of rare metals needed to make batteries. If I spend $50K on a new EV, will it be replaced with a different technology making my purchase obsolete?

If EV cars continue to drop in price and I buy now at the higher price, will I be able to sell/trade at a reasonable value if I don't like the car?

Some EVs do not get the range reported and there are horror stories about having battery problems. Not unexpected with new technology but not easy to make a large investment in an automobile where a percentage has difficult issues.

Note I am not anti-EV but to make the blanket statement that there are no barriers is simply not true.

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Re: I haven't used a supercharger in more than 6 months


Jul 17, 2023, 9:56 AM

Like most technology, EVs and their batteries should get better and hopefully less expensive as experience with them is gained. The issue IMO is trying to rush into this through legislation, coercion, etc designed to force people to switch to them before the technology gets better. Even then, they probably won’t be for everyone and there should still be gas/diesel alternatives.

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Sure there are downsides today I was referring to several


Jul 17, 2023, 10:13 AM [ in reply to Re: I haven't used a supercharger in more than 6 months ]

Years from now when Toyota’s tech is expected to hit the market. Most of the folks who seem to be unreasonably afraid of EVs don’t seem to understand advances in technology. They always talk about the horrors that are gonna play out 5 years from now when we’re all forced to drive these glorified golf carts without considering how the tech will improve. Like Mark Packer always says “Nothing ever gets done til something gets sold”. Things are getting sold now (EVs); so a whole lot of smart people are working on making them better. Every day a news article comes out about a “breakthrough” advancement in the field.

As far as some of your current concerns:

My wall charger was $450, qualified for a tax credit, and I save over $2K /year charging vs buying gas. Plus you don’t even need a fancy charger all you need is a dryer plug to be able to charge at a reasonable rate.

My vehicle has an 8 years 120K mile warranty on the batteries which is sufficient for me

FOMO is a beech if you’re that worried about something new coming along you’re probably still using your iPhone 5. It’s only obsolete if it doesn’t do what you need it to do. If Tesla comes out with a vehicle in 6 months that has 500 miles of range oh well I’ll be annoyed that I don’t have the best anymore but I’m not any worse off that I was before.

Make sure you really understand the range you’re gonna get before you buy the vehicle; go to some owners’ websites and learn what actual drivers have to say. The EPA range estimates are absolute garbage they aren’t real world, but instead measured while the vehicle is on a dyno. If you buy an EV expecting to get anywhere near that number you’ll be disappointed.

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Cell phone static wasn't an issue when I was growing up...


Jul 17, 2023, 3:22 PM

When I started driving legally in 1978, and there were no cell phones if I remember correctly, gas was a mere sixty-five cents per gallon.

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