COVID19 is real, not a hoax, not a Democrat conspiracy.
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All-In [47799]
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COVID19 is real, not a hoax, not a Democrat conspiracy.
Oct 6, 2020, 12:24 PM
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Donald Trump has mislead millions of Americans but millions are smart enough to realize the deception and as a result Trump's idiotic hubris has set back the conservative movement for a generation.
We didnt need an unconstitutional mask mandate but just using the bully pulpit of the white house to encourage mask wearing and social distancing would have gone a long way. H3ll, just keeping his mouth shut would have been better. Instead, following the President's lead, we have people who truly believe that its all a hoax and the masks are just socialist tools. ### is wrong with you people? I went down to SC this weekend and it was eye opening. I had one acquaintance tell me they drive 10 miles out of their way to go to a Target that doesnt require masks. Another said point blank that covid was a hoax and masks did nothing. Another said we wouldnt hear anything more about covid the day after Biden wins the election. Another that its only "black people" who get it. And, now, the restaurants are back to 100% capacity. These people are all Trump disciples and are taking marching orders from that idiot.
I firmly believe that if President Trump had actually led on this issue, he would be cruising to victory right now and the Senate would be a lock. In other words, better than any conservative in 100 years. Instead, the Squad is about to multiply exponentially and we're all going to get A.$.$. raped with new taxe$.
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Agreed. Pray the GOP keeps the Senate.***
Oct 6, 2020, 12:29 PM
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agreed. I hope Mitch has a great pitch to Sen. Manchin
Oct 6, 2020, 12:35 PM
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to switch sides if its 50/50 which is highly likely.
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Re: COVID19 is real, not a hoax, not a Democrat conspiracy.
Oct 6, 2020, 12:37 PM
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You know Trump is going to be Trump. You have to take the bad with the good.
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couldnt he have been Trump by getting a gold plated mask
Oct 6, 2020, 12:39 PM
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or something? or posing with some bikini clad girls wearing little else other than masks?
Given how he's lead on this, if this were the AIDS epidemic, he'd be encouraging bareback orgies in san fran.
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Re: couldnt he have been Trump by getting a gold plated mask
Oct 6, 2020, 12:42 PM
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I would not have went there.
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Re: COVID19 is real, not a hoax, not a Democrat conspiracy.
Oct 6, 2020, 12:40 PM
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I think it smells pretty bad that the only way to beat Trump was to make the economy tank. The Dems and Hollywood were call for the economy to tank. I don't know about a Hoax but the Chinese released this on us and the world. Read into that anyway you like.
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Re: COVID19 is real, not a hoax, not a Democrat conspiracy.
Oct 6, 2020, 12:47 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83131]
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Re: LOL.***
Oct 6, 2020, 12:51 PM
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I am guessing you think its funny.
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Oculus Spirit [83131]
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Yea, anyone who thinks the dems and Hollywoid
Oct 6, 2020, 1:20 PM
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wanted the economy to tank should be laughed at.
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Re: Yea, anyone who thinks the dems and Hollywoid
Oct 6, 2020, 1:36 PM
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Did I say you? I am talking about the national talking heads. Dang young man are you that dense?
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Oculus Spirit [83131]
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Go back and read your post above. It’s hard to decipher
Oct 6, 2020, 2:18 PM
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what you mean, lol.
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Re: Go back and read your post above. It’s hard to decipher
Oct 6, 2020, 2:27 PM
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Jimmy Fallon and others said he hoped we have a recession to get Trump out of office. Nancy Peliso also said the same thing but hey who is counting.
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Exactly
Oct 6, 2020, 2:57 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I'm just amazed at the amount of people on both sides...
Oct 6, 2020, 12:40 PM
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that takes anything he says seriously.
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there are people who needed someone to love and others
Oct 6, 2020, 12:42 PM
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who needed someone to hate and Trump was ready and willing to satisfy both
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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when I voted for him, I knew he was full of crap...
Oct 6, 2020, 12:44 PM
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will do the same this time.
Everything he says is to create a reaction.
The dude says some stupid stuff. Hillary was, and now Biden is just that bad.
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Seems comparing Biden to Hillary is mostly rationalizing.
Oct 6, 2020, 1:51 PM
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Democratic policies may be similar but Joe is a step up in character. In this day and age, no politician exemplifies high character ___ but some reside in a vile cesspool.
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Re: Seems comparing Biden to Hillary is mostly rationalizing.
Oct 6, 2020, 1:54 PM
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Ya right. He is as crooked as a dog's leg.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Hmmm...
Oct 6, 2020, 1:56 PM
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I'm not trying to goof here. Hillary was just a plain old bitty. Biden may be friendly and personable, but I don't see a step up in character. Demeanor, maybe. Character, no.
He makes up all kinds of stories that just are not true.
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Re: Hmmm...
Oct 6, 2020, 3:39 PM
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The media never questions his lies either.
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I'm not all that sensitive...
Oct 6, 2020, 12:48 PM
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if the last four years (sans the virus this year) is what I have to deal with the next 4 years, I say "Thanks, Russia!"
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Re: I'm not all that sensitive...
Oct 6, 2020, 12:53 PM
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And China.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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no, no, no...
Oct 6, 2020, 12:55 PM
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you remember Russia wanted Trump to win because of how they are benefiting from him being the POTUS.
I feel sorry for people who need the government to tell them how to use common sense.
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Re: no, no, no...
Oct 6, 2020, 12:58 PM
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Both countries don't really have a candidate they want to win they just want there to be chaos with an election and people to want to change our system of government. That is there goal.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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you need to watch more news***
Oct 6, 2020, 12:59 PM
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Re: you need to watch more news***
Oct 6, 2020, 1:01 PM
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I cringe watching the news.
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The problem is Trumpkins take what he says so seriously
Oct 6, 2020, 12:53 PM
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and his history shows he will follow through on this threats and corruption, in addition to being the president of the most powerful nation on Earth, that the rest of us have no choice but to take him seriously. It would be either disingenuous or stupid to pretend otherwise.
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And then when he either can't or just doesn't do
Oct 6, 2020, 12:55 PM
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what he said, then it's all.. hahaha stupid libs got played again.
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Re: The problem is Trumpkins take what he says so seriously
Oct 6, 2020, 1:01 PM
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Him being the leader of the Free World, and all.
Putting out that "don't take him so seriously" thing is just the worst kind of intellectual dishonesty, especially since the vast majority of his jokes appear to be test-balloon propositions, like, let's just throw this out there and see how this goes. It's more like that creepy guy who makes inappropriate jokes about young girls that leave you with the distinct impression he's doing a little bit more than making an inappropriate joke. I myself never take my eyes off that guy again...like, ever, because there's such things as glaring red flags and Trump is a parade full of them.
Put in haiku form, it goes kinda like this: A man can troll by Tweet Or a man can lead the Free World But never both.
Actually I think that's eighteen syllables instead of seventeen, but you get the idea.
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I know it's anecdotal...
Oct 6, 2020, 2:22 PM
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but I know zero people who are Trump voters that are gauging their mask-wearing by anything Trump has done. I would say said, but Trump has never told anybody not to wear a mask.
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Oculus Spirit [83131]
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Libtard.***
Oct 6, 2020, 12:45 PM
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Re: Libtard.***
Oct 6, 2020, 12:52 PM
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I don't have to call people names that is what you all do.
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Totally naive? Or just pretending to be totally naive?***
Oct 6, 2020, 1:31 PM
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Trump is exactly who we thought he was. His reaction to
Oct 6, 2020, 12:47 PM
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Covid simply laid it all bare for those who were either too stupid to see it or thought they could contain and control him.
It is what it is because he is who we thought he was.
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Re: Trump is exactly who we thought he was. His reaction to
Oct 6, 2020, 12:54 PM
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I knew who Trump was when I voted for him. Its not like he has not been on TV for 40 yrs.
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The idea that a few comments about masks would have
Oct 6, 2020, 12:59 PM
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staved this off is fantasy. Europe's recent experience confirms what many have said all along, that a certain number of people are going to get it, and have to get it, before it ceases to be an epidemic, and even then it will never totally go away. The only variable is the speed with which it happens.
With few exceptions, the locales - states or countries - that had high early case loads are now on the downswing, while those with low early case loads are now seeing the "second wave". The EU now has more cases than we do. In our case, what is often ignored is that the number of fatalities is dropping dramatically as the cases are spreading among the demographics not at risk. Any guesses as to why we don't hear about that?
We have allowed ourselves to be talked into the idea that "new case" should be spelled "New Case!!!", without regard to testing rates/techniques and actual hospitalizations and fatalities. Once that is done, once the word "Case!!" is isolated from reality, one can go manufacture bad news, and that is exactly what is happening.
If the Dems win this election, there will be much pontificating about being proactive, an extremely expensive and destructive initiative will be undertaken, the virus will take its largely predetermined course with little change, and at the end "success" will be declared. Shoot the most expensive arrow you can, find it when it falls to earth, and then draw a target around it. It's coming.
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I strongly disagree. I spoke with people not two days ago
Oct 6, 2020, 1:16 PM
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in suburban SC who think this is a hoax and they believe these things because of what they hear from the White House.
And we're not talking a few statements. Don't minimize that. There has been a non-stop stream from the white house on covid whether from tweets, press conferences, or speeches not to mention body language. The president could have taken a different approach and we'd be better for it -- conservatism would be better for it as well.
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Disagree with what? What a person in rural SC says or does
Oct 6, 2020, 1:25 PM
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has nothing to do with anything I said. It sounds like you want somebody to be mad at, and they're convenient. The rural South Carolinians, your fellow citizens, are causing this? That's just unsupported finger pointing. Which, if that is your proposal, would that everyone were like us. Have you seen our hospitalization and fatality rates? Falling like rocks.
I was discussing the inevitability of the spread of such a contagious virus, as evidenced by the nearly identical experiences - over the long term - of most locales, regardless of strategy. And I discussed the illogic of focusing exclusively on numbers of "Cases!!", without relating it to testing and fatalities. What that has to do with your friends in Possum Kingdom, who are not stupid, by the way, I don't know.
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got it. I'll put you down in the column that says
Oct 6, 2020, 1:28 PM
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masks don't work. best of luck to ya!
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Re: got it. I'll put you down in the column that says
Oct 6, 2020, 1:44 PM
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I have a friend that is mad about wearing masks too. I trying to tell him what will it hurt? That was the wrong thing to ask I guess.
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Everybody is "Science!!" until you point out evidence that
Oct 6, 2020, 2:28 PM
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doesn't fit the narrative. The narrative here is: - Masks work - Trump was blase' on masks. - It's all his fault.
The first two statements are conditionally true, to the degree that the last one doesn't even begin to follow. Nevertheless, to point to anything that doesn't support the Trump-caused-this narrative will label one as a mask denier.
We will end up having the same experience - and now it looks like better - as many countries that imposed draconian measures. Regardless, the narrative is that its all Trump's fault. Europe? SC is outperforming Michigan? "Nanananana...you're a mask denier...nanananana..."
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Re: Everybody is "Science!!" until you point out evidence that
Oct 6, 2020, 2:35 PM
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Wrong its China's fault.
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The ignorance and stupidity regarding Covid is staggering.
Oct 6, 2020, 1:00 PM
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I'm talking RAGING ignorance. And you have nailed it - Trump has missed sooooooo many opportunities to truly lead. My wife, who is not particularly political, summed it up best a few days ago: "GREAT! Our only two choices are an idiot and an acehole!".
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Re: The ignorance and stupidity regarding Covid is staggering.
Oct 6, 2020, 1:04 PM
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I have to agree with your wife. Biden is an idiot and Trump is an azzhole.
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I would rather have an idiot that listens to the experts
Oct 6, 2020, 1:09 PM
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than an ####### who's ego gets people killed from a virus.
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Re: I would rather have an idiot that listens to the experts
Oct 6, 2020, 1:42 PM
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An Idiot cannot run this country.
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A guy who acts like an idiot is***
Oct 6, 2020, 1:44 PM
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And George W. Bush says hi
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Re: A guy who acts like an idiot is***
Oct 6, 2020, 1:46 PM
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Trump is a lot of things but an idiot is not one of them.
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Idk how you listen to him speak and not think he's an idiot***
Oct 6, 2020, 2:59 PM
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Re: Idk how you listen to him speak and not think he's an idiot***
Oct 6, 2020, 3:41 PM
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Most of the time Trump makes a lot of sense but not on the mask thing.
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Re: A guy who acts like an idiot is***
Oct 6, 2020, 1:49 PM
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GW Bush did a great job after 911 except for going into Iraq. Husain had it under control. He would just line up a 1000 people and shot them.
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Nailed it.***
Oct 6, 2020, 1:00 PM
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I have not seen any restaurant anywhere near back
Oct 6, 2020, 1:21 PM
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to full capacity. Most are 50%, many are sidewalks only, others are take-out only. What backwoods town did you visit?
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I was in Gulf Shores, AL, Pensacola, FL, & Gulf Breeze, FL
Oct 6, 2020, 1:24 PM
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the past week, and a couple times I was told to take off my mask "because we don't wear them here". Once was told "Covid is a liberal conspiracy".
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and they weren't all dead? weird.***
Oct 6, 2020, 3:11 PM
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I remember whenever you were actually humorous.***
Oct 6, 2020, 3:19 PM
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I'm honored.
Oct 6, 2020, 5:15 PM
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truly.
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Does she work at D’s?
Oct 6, 2020, 1:38 PM
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NUTS
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Re: Does she work at D’s?
Oct 6, 2020, 2:00 PM
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NUTS
What are 14?
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“What are 14.....” Deep. I haven’t thought about it like
Oct 6, 2020, 2:20 PM
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that before. What are any of us?
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Re: Does she work at D’s?
Oct 6, 2020, 2:07 PM
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NUTS
What are you 14?
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Oculus Spirit [81078]
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: Drive through Mt Pleasant on a Sunday.
Oct 6, 2020, 2:20 PM
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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Regardless of who's president I don't need them telling me..
Oct 6, 2020, 2:11 PM
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how to live and what to be afraid of.
I haven't changed a single thing of how I go through life w/ the exception of wearing a mask ONLY when I enter places that say "masks required". I may or may not have had the virus, who knows. The symptom list is any and every symptom that I've had before in the past w/ other colds, flus, etc....
If you're afraid to get the virus, where a mask and stay 6', 12.3, 25.7', or whatever the "magic distance" is now from me if i'm not wearing one..............OR stay in your house and NEVER come out again.
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Orange Blooded [2203]
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Re: Regardless of who's president I don't need them telling me..
Oct 6, 2020, 2:33 PM
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See what would it hurt to wear a mask?
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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I can't wear a mask longer than 15 minutes before......
Oct 6, 2020, 2:43 PM
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I get bad headaches. I have asthma so breathing in my own carbon dioxide doesn't particularly bode well for me like it does others. I'll take my COVID chances having that "pre existing condition". As I stated though, I'll wear one where it says "masks required" and leave within 15mins, I'm respectful to others, I offer a fist bump and not a handshake when I meet people, I don't (and never have) coughed or sneezed anywhere without covering. I have nothing against masks or mask wearers, it just doesn't suit me.
I'm of the "to each their own" mindset. I'll respect it either way.
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CU Guru [1878]
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If you have a condition where you can't wear a mask, COVID-19 would be a lot worse than a mask***
Oct 6, 2020, 2:57 PM
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All-TigerNet [10360]
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I'm not worried about it....like i said, per the data......
Oct 6, 2020, 3:16 PM
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I like my chances
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CU Guru [1878]
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Per the data, not wearing a mask is a bigger risk to you
Oct 8, 2020, 12:38 PM
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And to others. You're simply selfish, is all.
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CU Guru [1878]
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You earned my respect for admitting this
Oct 6, 2020, 2:51 PM
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I don't like it took true Conservatives this long to realize their leader is a Con Man, and that it's going to come back to bite them - but better late than never.
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Re: You earned my respect for admitting this
Oct 6, 2020, 3:05 PM
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I voted Conservative Party in 2016 as I felt Clinton was indeed crooked and Trump had no core ideological principles. He has surprised me by delivering on many of his promises. However, his demeanor has been very hard to stomach. I voted for Trump this time based on the fact that he has delivered on many things that I approve of, but more so because the Democratic Party has shifted significantly to the left. Biden is going to win. I can only hope the GOP keeps the Senate. If so, nothing from the left will be enacted into law and Biden may well have the ability to work across the aisle to get a few meaningful things done. If the Dems take the Senate, abolish the filibuster and pass laws by a simple majority and no bipartisan input, our country may be headed to total chaos. Most of the country is still centrist to slightly center-right. If we get a big dose of Schumer-Sanders-Warren----AOC and the squad pushed on us, things could get very ugly.
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Orange Blooded [2203]
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Re: You earned my respect for admitting this
Oct 6, 2020, 3:45 PM
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That is a dream world. The lines are set and no one will ever cross the isle again. Its being pushed from the top. Biden will not be in office too long if elected. They will force the idiot out.
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Re: COVID19 is real, not a hoax, not a Democrat conspiracy.
Oct 6, 2020, 4:27 PM
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Trump never said it was a hoax.
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Re: COVID19 is real, not a hoax, not a Democrat conspiracy.
Oct 6, 2020, 6:57 PM
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Whoa, tap the brakes a bit. Only “black people” get Covid-19? I haven’t even heard CNN pushing that narrative regarding Trump’s supporters. That’s far too anecdotal for my tastes. Look, I don’t disagree, Trump needs to tone down his Covid-is-not-that-bad rhetoric. The other side also needs to tone down the Covid-is-killing-everyone rhetoric. The actual seriousness of Covid lies somewhere between the two. Unfortunately, both sides have politicized it for their own perceptive benefit. I definitely think the swelling goes down after the election, regardless of poll results.
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Yes, Yes, a million times Yes. I live in upstate SC and I'm still amazed
Oct 6, 2020, 7:03 PM
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at how many people that refuse to wear a mask in the grocery store for 10 mins. Blows my mind. Even at businesses that plainly state that masks are required... they stride in with that smirk on their face... you know what I'm talking about... that By God This is Murica And You Can't Make Me smirk. It's some kinda "southern macho thang" combined with a good dose of late-night AM Radio conspiracy theory...
A lot of folks on FB have been very consistent. Walmart is requiring a mask? Well, they just lost my business, I'll go elsewhere. I value my personal freedoms more than some idiotic libtard attempt to kill the economy and make Trump look bad. All the mask-wearers are "sheeple" who need to "educate themselves". The irony is rich. So far I have refused to even engage these folks... it's just not worth it.
It's sort of a "Hey Y'all, Watch This" mentality, without the karma/satisfaction of seeing someone on fire.
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Re: Yes, Yes, a million times Yes. I live in upstate SC and I'm still amazed
Oct 6, 2020, 7:14 PM
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