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All-In [26514]
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Mindsets of college students ...
Nov 10, 2016, 9:20 AM
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Its our fault ... We PAY to send off our kids to these liberal training camps ... at RIDICULOUS cost to us ... 99% of professors are left leaning blowhards who never had a real job. They have a bully pulpit.
If we grew a backbone, demanded our kids get jobs out of high school and work for 2-3 years before going to college, then they would appreciate the education process.
Also demand state schools offer more technical studies and less socialist majors.
I made the mistake ... I'm trying to help future Gen X parents.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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Or teach your kids to think for themselves
Nov 10, 2016, 9:28 AM
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I went to college as a conservative and no leftist professor changed that.
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Orange Blooded [2877]
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Re: Or teach your kids to think for themselves
Nov 10, 2016, 9:31 AM
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Sadly that is rare these days, college is a joke you learn nothing and it turns people into pansies expecting a handout. It is supposed to help you better yourself not teach you to look to others for help.
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What kind of jobs would they work for 3 years out of high school?
Nov 10, 2016, 9:33 AM
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Fast food? Retail? Labor?
It's a lot more difficult to get back into the routine of school the linger you have been out of it. I think students need the transition from high school directly into college to grow and develop.
Have them work part time jobs during high school and over summers
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Orange Blooded [2877]
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Re: What kind of jobs would they work for 3 years out of high school?
Nov 10, 2016, 9:38 AM
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Make their ##### go cut some grass before they go to college, open their eyes to why they are there. Consequences are not understood by this group of kids, they have never had any. That's a true disservice because they shut down when they lose instead of dusting off and trying harder. College now just continues this sissy crap, oh you're upset about something... no test you're good don't kill yourself please because we don't wanna be sued for that
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Re: What kind of jobs would they work for 3 years out of high school?
Nov 10, 2016, 9:50 AM
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Nothing wrong with kids today. They have similar mindset as we had 50 years ago, sans Viet Nam. We wanted an education and a chance for a job starting us at least somewhere near the level of fiscal well being we had as residents of our parents' homes. (Reality kicked in later.)
Working for 2-3 years would be a bad solution. With the earnings would come responsibilities like car payments, credit card debt, possibly marriage and family. We'd loose college athletics as we know it as leagues of minor league sports would flourish, providing a stage for the gifted 18 year-olds to perform on.
Possible solution: 2 years of government service. Could be military, Job Core, AmeriCore, Peace corps, or some form of CCC to help rebuild parks, infrastructure, etc. Minimal pay, housing or housing allowance, Scholarship or grant monies for higher education upon completion of commitment.
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Re: Mindsets of college students ...
Nov 10, 2016, 9:34 AM
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It is some of the fault of parents...
The generation that is now old enough to vote is the first generation of this whole everyone is a winner bull ####. They are the first generation where score was no longer kept in little league so no ones feelings were hurt.
They have been brainwashed their entire lives that everything is rainbows and butterflies and no one is a loser.
Reality is finally hitting them in the face and they arent taking it too well.
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Changing colleges won't fix much.
Nov 10, 2016, 9:35 AM
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Most kids' minds are already ruined by the time they get to high school.
“Education is thus a most powerful ally of humanism, and every American school is a school of humanism. What can a theistic Sunday School’s meeting for an hour once a week and teaching only a fraction of the children do to stem the tide of the five-day program of humanistic teaching?” Charles F. Potter, Humanism: A New Religion (1930)
“Every child in America entering school at the age of five is mentally ill, because he comes to school with certain allegiances toward our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural Being, toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It is up to you teachers to make all these sick children well by creating the international children of the future.” -- Harvard Professor of Education and Psychiatry, 1984
“There is no God and there is no soul. Hence, there is no need for the props of traditional religion. With dogma and creed excluded, then immutable truth is also dead and buried. There is no room for fixed, natural law or moral absolutes.” John Dewey (1859-1952), the “Father of Progressive Education;” co-author of the first Humanist Manifesto and honorary NEA president.
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A Tale of Two Sons
Nov 10, 2016, 9:35 AM
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My oldest is at Clemson now. He did not have a job in high school due to his high school activities. He recognizes how the professors lean in a predominant direction and take their input for what it is worth by thinking for himself.
My youngest son is in high school and has a part-time job and has a good handle on how the world works in preparation for the leftist collegiate experience.
We owe it to all of our young people to provide them with different viewpoints and let them make their decisions based on this strong foundation.
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Re: A Tale of Two Sons
Nov 10, 2016, 9:41 AM
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They need to eliminate some useless classes in high school and add money management and fiscal accountability to the curriculum.
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Football
Nov 10, 2016, 9:40 AM
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Cause football board
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Actually, it has a lot to do with football.
Nov 10, 2016, 9:49 AM
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Football players are just a subset of this generation, and as a result every year teams as a whole are less and less focused and disciplined, and more and more erratic and unpredictable, hence the crazier and crazier seasons we are witnessing.
Only a few special coaches have been able to recruit the right kids and give them the discipline they need to put a respectable program on the field week in and week out.
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Orange Blooded [2702]
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You're kidding right? Your post didn't say anything about football
Nov 10, 2016, 9:56 AM
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So I'm gonna start a post about which dining hall is the best and call it football related because football players eat on campus too.
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Re: Mindsets of college students ...
Nov 10, 2016, 9:42 AM
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Don't have your kids go to pansy schools like Yale.
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Re: Mindsets of college students ...
Nov 10, 2016, 9:45 AM
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when i was at Clemson, if I had told a professor that i was too upset over an election to take a test, He/she would have said fine as they marked an "F" in the grade book!
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Re: Mindsets of college students ...
Nov 10, 2016, 9:50 AM
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It always cracks me up to see anti education right wing rants on a college sports forum.
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It's merely an entitlement issue
Nov 10, 2016, 9:51 AM
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Kids today feel that they are entitled to anything they want. They deserve it. As much as I love my kid over someone else's kid, in the grand scheme this world, my kid isn't any more special than any other kid. But parents today teach and constantly remind their kids just how special and one of kind they are and that they deserve anything.
Teach your kids to respect all others and show them how to handle disappointment and unfairness and all will be well. I tell my kids all the time what I always heard...the world ain't fair and you better get used to it.
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this is the problem with your thinking
Nov 10, 2016, 9:56 AM
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normalcy requires all of us to be in the middle - not one or the other. that is the problem in todays society. middle requires actual thought to cause and effect. being conservative or being liberal requires narrow minded focus.
the kids biggest threat today is the cell phone/social media. not teachers, not politicians, etc. how this blind country cannot see that is beyond me. people love to blame the right or the left or the media or the church, etc. but the death of this country is in the palm of your hands. tell you what, go drive on the hwy and see how many are driving and texting. or, check out people at a football game. how many are watching the game? all this drivel about politics is an exercise in futility because it does not matter. nothing will change.
parents have decided that the phones rule and therefore all the information provided will keep your children occupied. bravo.
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Nov 10, 2016, 9:57 AM
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This is a late
Nov 10, 2016, 9:58 AM
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April fool joke. Right?
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It's not just college.
Nov 10, 2016, 10:16 AM
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The High Schools are just as bad if not worse...
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I totally agree!
Nov 10, 2016, 10:24 AM
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We should have the government mandate what courses of study colleges teach, rather than letting the market and demand set their curriculum. That'll show those liberal big-government blowhard professors!
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