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Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
Apr 9, 2020, 10:02 AM
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Fox News gives Juan Williams a huge platform to express his liberal viewpoint. He’s on the air all the time and is always the contrarian.
Who on CNN or MSNBC is given a similar conservative platform? Is there anyone??
Liberal guests are always included on the panel show like “Outnumbered” and “The Five” ...
On Fox, Neil Cavuto is frequently critical of Trump and certainly Shep Smith never missed an opportunity to give a liberal opinion. Ask Geraldo Rivera about any Trump policy on immigration and watch him blow his top.
Heck, even Tucker Carlson occasionally questions popular conservative hot button talking points.
Brett Baier and Dana Perino are conservative, but both are extremely even handed.
People who say Fox is not reasonably balanced apparently don’t watch Fox at all or don’t check out anything but Sean Hannity and Lara Ingraham.
Fox is the fairest network of the three by far.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
Apr 9, 2020, 10:06 AM
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Fox isn't slightly fair. That's laughable. They have Juan Williams on there because he is soft, kind of like Alan Colmes with Hannity. There isn't a more biased nutty network on the air.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
Apr 9, 2020, 10:14 AM
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Did you forget about Joe Scarborough and Marsha Wallace on MSNBC ..... what do you call them .... hard core conservatives. Name one fair commentator or News anchor on either of those networks .... Rachael Maddow?
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
Apr 9, 2020, 10:19 AM
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MSNBC isn't balanced at all. I didn't say the were. They aren't ignorant morons like the goofballs at Fox, but they aren't even close to balanced. MSNBC just a Dem attack machine to get the Repubs. The most balanced is CNN and they aren't balanced either.
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CNN balanced.....Joke of the Day!***
Apr 9, 2020, 10:52 AM
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Re: CNN balanced.....Joke of the Day!***
Apr 9, 2020, 10:58 AM
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Who said CNN was balanced? Joke of the day is you have reading comprehension issues. That is hilarious. Try again.
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Re: Who is the Juan Williams of CNN or MSNBC?***
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
Apr 9, 2020, 10:22 AM
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I watch them all. Fox is by far the most ignorant nutty with zero balance. MSNBC has zero balance, but at least they aren't ignorant morons like the vast majority on Fox. CNN tries to pretend they are middle of the road, but they are just libs. They are still the most moderate of the 3, which isn't saying much. They are a lib station though and anti Trump at all times.
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CNN & MSNBC “not ignorant morons” ... Don Lemon says hi.
Apr 9, 2020, 10:28 AM
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Your obvious bias is showing when you arbitrarily lump people like Dana Perino, Brett Baier, Neil Cavuto, Chris Wallace into the same basket as Hannity or Ingraham ... or Watters.
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Re: CNN & MSNBC “not ignorant morons” ... Don Lemon says hi.
Apr 9, 2020, 10:36 AM
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I have zero bias. I am just a critical thinker. Fox is built to entertain morons. I could write everything for Fox. It would be so simple. Its a business model. Its as cliche as it gets 24/7.
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Zero bias ...
Apr 9, 2020, 10:43 AM
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Anyone who says something like “I have zero bias.” automatically exempts themselves from legitimate debate.
I would have thought expected better from you.
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Re: Zero bias ...
Apr 9, 2020, 10:51 AM
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I have zero when it comes to facts. I have taken a couple critical thinking courses. I have lived all over the US and I relate to all backgrounds. I am probably just a little more exposed than you are. I see through the news, left and right. It's cringeworthy to watch....all of it. Fox has dumbed it down to the lowest levels though. I would love to work there. It would be the easiest job in the world. You're kind of sucker. Look at your original post. It was laughably naive and ignorant. That's cool though. It's not like any of it really matters. Fox is a gimmick. Just so you know. It's a great business model though and it was needed to counter the nutty left.
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Re: Zero bias ...
Apr 9, 2020, 11:03 AM
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Everyone is suitably impressed with your critical thinking ability. You are widely traveled and knowledgeable. You’ve told us that several times in the past on a myriad of topics. We understand. You still haven’t told me who is the counter to Juan Williams on the competing networks. Can you at least do that much?
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Nevermind, I saw below that you offered Joe Scarborough .***
Apr 9, 2020, 11:09 AM
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Re: Zero bias ...
Apr 9, 2020, 11:13 AM
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Sorry your just ignorant and underexposed. Don't get mad about it.
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Let’s see now ... you’ve called me a sucker, ignorant, dumb,
Apr 9, 2020, 11:27 AM
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and a moron so far in this conversation.
Meanwhile, I have refrained from any name calling and will continue to try to do so, although “arrogant and condescending” certainly come to mind.
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The no spin zone
Apr 9, 2020, 12:30 PM
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This is what Carlsbad and other liberals do when they say they have facts, are asked to share said facts, and cannot provide them. They revert back to tried and true name-calling and insults to your education level, cultural diversity and so forth.
To answer your question OANN is the best location to get non-biased, fair and objective global news media.
Your own investigation into who owns and controls the majority of mass media will set you free. Start by investigating operation mockingbird.
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Re: Zero bias ...
Apr 9, 2020, 12:36 PM
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Everyone is suitably impressed with your critical thinking ability. You are widely traveled and knowledgeable. You’ve told us that several times in the past on a myriad of topics. We understand. You still haven’t told me who is the counter to Juan Williams on the competing networks. Can you at least do that much?
You're kidding me, right? MSNBC has been taking mucho heat from the far left lately because they've been hiring so many Never Trump conservatives. "Morning Joe" Scarborough at MSNBC was a Republican Congressman from Florida.
![](https://i1.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/joe-scarborough-trump-journey-groupie-resistance-1.jpg?fit=789%2C460&ssl=1)
Nichole Wallace, also at MSNBC, was Dubya's speechwriter and White House Communication Director.
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SE Cupp - SE Cupp Unfiltered - at CNN used to be on Fox, and she's highly conservative, writing in about a dozen-plus publication and is the author of books like Why You're Wrong About the Right: Behind the Myths and Losing Our Religion: the Media's Attack on Christianity.
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Sarah Isgur is the director of political coverage at CNN, which caused a huge stir among arch-liberals; WaPo absolutely blasted the hire. She's a longtime Republican spokeswoman. She worked for Jeff Sessions at Main Justice until Sessions was kicked out.
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It goes on and on, but CNN and MSNBC are both littered with former GOP operatives who actually broke with Fox, including Colonel Ralph Peters - who quit Fox for promoting conspiracy theories... https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tomnamako/ralph-peters
Former RNC Chairman Michael Peters...now a regular contributor to CNN.
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Former Fox News host Alisyn Camerota, now on CNN...
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...and that's where I got tired of this and stopped googling. The bottom line is there's a raftload of conservatives on CNN and MSNBC, and very few of them have anything good to say about Fox News.
Fox is anything but "Fair and Balanced", and in fact doesn't even pretend to use that slogan anymore.
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Re: Zero bias ...
Apr 9, 2020, 12:54 PM
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You lost me when you started with Morning Joe.Hates Trump with all his being.I find Harris Faulkner and Bill Hemmer good.
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You can be a conservative and still dislike Trump***
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Quizzes, I really love your football analysis.
Apr 9, 2020, 1:54 PM
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Happy to have you weigh in on this topic too.
My point was that Fox allows a strongly stated viewpoint from several regulars that totally or at least partially opposes the generally accepted Fox doctrine.
Who on CNN or MSNBC strongly oppose the generally accepted liberal doctrine on a regular basis?
Who on CNN or MSNBC *regularly* calls BS on each and every statement made in favor of Donald Trump as Juan Williams doe on each and every positive statement about him?
I realize CNN and MSNBC are both heavily populated with Woke Republicans and Never Trumpers.
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Quozzel ...***
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Re: Quizzes, I really love your football analysis.
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Look, I'm a registered Republican myself - though I'd fall into what's called a "Never Trumper" or what Party of Trumpers call a RINO - even though I haven't changed, the party has.
Fox News was founded as a News Corp initiative by Roger Ailes - who worked for Richard Nixon - and English/Australian billionaire Rupert Murdoch...who is 90 years old and still running the company. Murdoch isn't American - though he gave up his Australian citizenship for US citizenship so as to circumvent the laws on foreigners owning American media. He doesn't have much regard for Americans in general, or democracy in particular. He's an oligarch, and he's intent on bringing back the days when the so-called "robber barons" - Henry Ford, Andrew Carnegie, Cornelius Vanderbilt, and John D. Rockefeller - pretty much owned everything in America.
Fox's goal isn't really to report the news, so much as it's to spin and blunt the impact of news, and prevent the powerful from being held to account by the public. Using News Corp's tried-and-true formula - which Murdoch and before that, Murdoch's father - have been applying for over 75 years now - they've successfully sold the notion that there's a "conservative" and a "liberal" media and that the "liberal" media is a bunch of communists out to turn America pink. ANYTHING that reeks of accountability of the powerful towards the people or questioning of authority is slammed as "liberal" and they've even got America questioning if it's an actual democracy or not...or if it even should be.
Again, they're oligarchs, in the hip pocket of oligarchs, especially the unsavory ones - the guys from Big Pharma, Big Insurance, Big Oil, and Big Everything Else. Their goal is to keep the people - who once broke up the Robber Baron empires with "anti-trust" regulation - divided and confused, while the new generation of robber barons consolidate their ever-growing hold on both politics and the free market...because at the end of the day, "free" markets are the last things they want. They want monopolies. They want power. And they assuredly do not want to be accountable to We the People.
Again, Fox's guys - Tucker Carlson, Hannity, Ingraham - aren't journalists. They're pundits posing as journalists, completely re-spinning the news (almost live and in real-time), and their agenda is simple: defeat the impact the actual media has by re-spinning it to their target audience as it happens...you know, exactly like State TV does it in every dictatorship on the planet.
Keep in mind I'm a free-market capitalist to my very bones, and an untrusting more-than-slightly-paranoid Libertarian Lite who really doesn't like Croney Capitalism or those who support it...and that's exactly why I regard Fox News as a cancer on our society. Personally I'd like to put a stake in Rupert Murdoch's 90-year-old vampire heart for once and for all and run his kids back to Australia...where, incidentally, News Corp controls almost 80% of the media market there as well. (Again, oligarchs don't like "competition" much.)
Just my own opinion.
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Re: Zero bias ...
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Nailed it DueWest .... reminds me of a lawyer friend who always started out a conversation with "in my unbiased opinion" ..... yeah right! Carlsbad lost all credibility with that one.
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Re: Everything Hannity has said since before Trump took office
Apr 9, 2020, 11:00 AM
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Hannity is a clown. He is a partisan hack. He has promoted so much bullship over the years.
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Re: CNN & MSNBC “not ignorant morons” ... Don Lemon says hi.
Apr 9, 2020, 11:20 AM
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Your "critical" thinking has reached super proportions and is looking like Hiroshima. If you want want to watch people who think, watch Fox Business during the day. CNN quit good reporting after the first Iraq War.
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Re: CNN & MSNBC “not ignorant morons” ... Don Lemon says hi.
Apr 9, 2020, 11:23 AM
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Fox Business is good. I watch it. Thats not the major portion of Fox News though. As far CNN, they covered the 2nd Iraq war, that idiotic blunder, perfectly.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
Apr 9, 2020, 10:30 AM
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Any network with Don Lemon as a host cannot be considered balanced. He is the most extreme leftist on air today. (I hate that we share the same last name)
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
Apr 9, 2020, 10:39 AM
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True...and they aren't balanced. Don Lemon is as extreme as anyone. He should be off the air. I am just saying overall they are more balanced, but still not balanced at all. None of them are.
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Who is their Juan Williams? Simple question.***
Apr 9, 2020, 10:46 AM
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Re: Who is their Juan Williams? Simple question.***
Apr 9, 2020, 10:57 AM
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CNN has a bunch of moderate conservatives on daily. MSNBC has Joe Scarborough every morning. Michael Steel ran the Repub Party and he is on daily. They are definitely equal to Juan Williams.
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Morning Joe? Seriously? That’s your answer?
Apr 9, 2020, 11:04 AM
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Never mind.
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Re: Morning Joe? Seriously? That’s your answer?
Apr 9, 2020, 11:12 AM
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Well he was an elected Republican. That said they have Repubs on daily. Every day. You're going Juan Williams? Doesn't get dumber than that. Yeah never mind. I have you Michael Steele too. He only ran the Repub Party for a bit. Juan Williams makes them balanced? Lol
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You sound desperate for an answer.
Apr 9, 2020, 11:18 AM
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you really do.
So far you’ve called me a sucker, a moron, and now dumb.
That’s some first rate un-biased “critical thinking” right there.
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Re: You sound desperate for an answer.
Apr 9, 2020, 1:16 PM
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I think Carlsbad is really Hillary (the smartest women in the world)
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Re: Morning Joe? Seriously? That’s your answer?
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Nailed it again DueWest ..... Scarborough is a joke .... wanted to be liked so much by libs that he sold his soul. Same with Michael Steele and Nicole Wallace. In fact, they are just swamp dwellers like most of the Dems and Repubs in that heII hole.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
Apr 9, 2020, 10:41 AM
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CNN won't even show the President's daily briefing anymore. They wait until the President concludes his opening remarks, before showing the Q&A.
Yet, CNN manages to show Andy Cuomo's daily updates.
The fact that CNN's ratings are last in the cable news category should tell you all you need to know how balanced they are. Majority of independents would rather get there news from Fox.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
Apr 9, 2020, 10:45 AM
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The president's briefings aren't briefings. They are just bullship, lies, and gibberish. Moreover, they limit his briefings. They cut him off when he starts ramblingly incoherently. They have had his briefings all week though.
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So, an hour and a half briefing is CUTTING THEM OFF? If
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they are gibberish, why does Pelosi want them to stop airing them. I'll tell you why, because America is gettign to see on a daily basis how almost all of the press attacks him constantly. He is outstanding the way he takes their rediculous questions and answers them without assistance OR RAISING HIS VOICE. I laughed out loud months ago when the left wingers said "Pelosi really got under his skin". Hell, they couldn't get under his elephant skin with a four foot long splinter. I would love to see Bidne in front ofa press that was 90 percent conservative. That idiot wouldn't even be able to tell them what day it is after 10 minutes of the crap they ask President Trump.
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Re: So, an hour and a half briefing is CUTTING THEM OFF? If
Apr 9, 2020, 11:03 AM
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I have no idea what Pelosi thinks, nor do I care. She doesnt work for a tv network anyway.
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Re: Ratings mean absolutely nothing
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Ratings are everything. That's how they charge for advertising. It's all business. It's not news anymore.
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Re: you're insane...watch rachel maddow and tell me that's
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I don't think there is a person in America thinks that Rachel Maddow is balanced. She is one notch below Hannity or Lou Dobbs.
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Both FoxNews and MSNBC
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are hopelessly pandering to their right and left consituencies.
FoxNews is NOT as bad as OAN ... heaven help us ... or some others who pander to the fear and run with it. Those crazies notwithstanding, don't convince yourself that Fox or MSNBC are remotely 'fair or balanced'.
CNN is much closer to it - -though I believe they err to the left of perfect center.
If you truly are looking for a television source for news:
1) give up 24 hour services who are always on the air. They only want to sell you commercial time. Period. That crap is pure entertainment (including CNN). It just isn't good for your brain.
2) find a good 1-2 hour a day news source and quit the rest. If there is something else you want to investigate, do your searches (COVID, gerrymandering, NASA, oil reserves, etc.) and learn something -- find a decent source for THAT information. Without relying on the network.
For my time - the PBS newshour folks try very hard to ask relevant questions and they don't seem to care who is in charge. They will tell you what they are going to report on, report it, summarize it - explain why it matters, what it means and then move on. That's how news used to be before the 24-hour cycle got started a couple decades ago.
(stepping off my soapbox)
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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User Logo Carlsbad® Ring of Honor [30364] TigerPulse: 100% Posts: 36242 Joined: 5/16/04 Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC ! [4] Posted: Apr 9, 2020 10:06 AM Reply
Fox isn't slightly fair. That's laughable. They have Juan Williams on there because he is soft, kind of like Alan Colmes with Hannity. There isn't a more biased nutty network on the air.
yep, nothing like getting a fair dose of rachel madcow and morning joe and his ##### wife that hates trump because he rebuked her advances back in the day. and lets not forget mr. fair anderson cooper and don lemon. oh wait lets not forget chris matthews who said he gets a funny feeling in his leg when he hears obama talk. shall i go on.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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A couple of things. The vast majority of people that bash Fox news do not watch it. They see a 10 second clip on CNN or MSNBC of Sean Hannity saying something controversial. Hannity and a couple of other hosts (i.e. Laura Ingraham) are not journalists ..... they are advocates. The news type anchors, as per you comments, Brett Bair, Chris Wallace, even Tucker Carlson to some extent (although conservative in nature), Neil Cavuto, are excellent. Tucker does not tow the party line for either side.
I do watch CNN and MSNBC and have yet to find a news anchor that is remotely fair and balanced ...... Chuck Todd ... you have to be kidding. I can't think of a single one that is anywhere close to neutral in their political stance. They think by putting on a turncoat Republican like Marsha Wallace or Joe (PW) Scarborough that they are somehow being fair.
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None of them are***
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This is a fair and balanced statement.***
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Not to mention entirely accurate***
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Re: None of them are***
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Exactly. They are all pandering to target markets.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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I think you meant MSDNC. Both are the mouth piece of the Dimocrat party.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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True. Just like Fox is state news now.
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Good god.***
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Please continue ...
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That as extremely profound and well thought out.
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You aren't worth it...***
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Re: You aren't worth it...***
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That was hurtful ... why would you do that?
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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OMG
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Wonderfully expressed point of view. Pls tell us more.
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When are you guys going to learn...Geesh.
Apr 9, 2020, 10:32 AM
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These ARE NOT NEWS STATIONS. The are entertainment.
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If this is true, then “Entertainment” is doomed.
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We are NOT amused ...
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Re: When are you guys going to learn...Geesh.
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I hope your not suggesting that ABC,NBC or CBS are news stations?These people are like Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather.They lived in the days of Camelot.The idea the new “broadcasters” fall back on was KENNEDY was a democrat.If he were to be resurrected,he would run as far away as he could from his party.
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Listen to Both
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I listen to CNN until things get stupid then I listen to Fox. When they get stupid I go back to CNN. And it goes on like that in the car.
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Re: Listen to Both
Apr 9, 2020, 11:17 AM
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Exactly. We have no real network news anymore. I do the same.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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it may be closer than folks would like to admit. Politifact did a study in 2014, looking at things said on networks by pundits, anchors, guests, etc. They rated the statements as false/mostly false/pants on fire/true. For MSNBC is 42 percent false statements. FOX was 58 percent false statements. Interestingly, CNN was 22 percent. Now, one thing a lot of folks don't know is that CNN also has a network that is CNN International. People who watch a lot of network news say that it is the only one worth watching, because it is seen around the world and hence, they don't do a lot of the political posturing that we do with our very partisan national news. I wonder if CNN International was the one that was only lying 22 percent of the time.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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Fox Noise Network.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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Some of you aren’t being quite honest.Pelosi says what did Trump know and when did he know it.Meanwhile she was telling people in San Francisco to get out and enjoy things as usual.Well after the travel ban from China.She and Schiff better think before they “investigate” which will eventually turn into another impeachment hoax.The things she tried to put into the CARES legislation were reprehensible. You don’t see the comments like that on CNN and MSNBC which numerous Democrat politicians have made.So why did they know and ignore it?
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It's imply not possible to have 24/7 'News' channels
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And expect there to be more than 5% news...and 95% opinion.
I will say this...when ALL outlets pound the K-Rap out of a lone outlet...I get suspicious.
Anyone (other than deadsolidperfect® ...only cause it's in his name ) who comes on a thread/bored to remind any and all of their perfection, brilliance, and well-traveled global insights and perspectives is largely a turn-off. And defending such attributes with denigration and name-calling...and trumpeting their disgust with an 'orange-faced' President... apparently has no mirror in the house.
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Re: It's imply not possible to have 24/7 'News' channels
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'Simply'...the idiot tried to type
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Re: It's imply not possible to have 24/7 'News' channels
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Fox News is definitely more balanced and objective.
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They obviously lean right, but they do a good job of having opposing viewpoints. I don't see this attempt at being more objective and balanced on the other news networks.
People who criticize Fox are typically those who are hardcore liberal.
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Re: Fox News is definitely more balanced and objective.
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Ya’ll are confusing fox, msnbc, cnn with news. Majority of their content is editorial, it’s intended to be opinion. You agree with or disagree with the content, to some extent. This is simple folks it’s either subjective or objective content. If you agree with it or disagree with it it’s not news. Fox and MSNBC know they repackage opinion as news. It’s just unfortunate that most Americans left and right think they’re watching news. If u want news watch the 6 pm local or 7 pm national. It’s painful and is sometimes influenced by opinion, but that’s when we, as Americans, deploy our brain cells to another person’s use of free speech.
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I agree that the line between news and opinion is
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blurred. That's true on all networks, including Fox News.
I do wish that news stations stuck to reporting news, but in today's world, that doesn't attract viewers. People naturally gravitate toward watching what they want to hear.
I do think Fox is more objective and balanced than the other major cable news stations though.
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Ya if you criticize Fox you must be a hardcore Lib!
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I’m an independent. I only look at news online. Fox’s article are far and away the most biased. Their “news” articles are full of opinion, and very partisan. Also the stories they choose to feature prominently on the top of their site are very partisan as well.
CNN’s website is much more objective than Fox. I don’t check MSNBC as much as I look at the other two.
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Sorry, you lost me when you combined CNN
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with "more objective."
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Because you don’t like the answer. I didn’t say CNN is “objective.”
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I said it’s more objective than Fox. Which isn’t saying much.
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You haven't read much today.***
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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Yes. The others have done nothing but lead the attack on Trump since day 1.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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Thanks for posting.Come November you’ll have four more years to google some more nonsense.While your at it,please share some Joe Biden clips.Kinda of funny really.Reminds me of Gabby Johnson.We can get some authentic political gibberish.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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Fair or not, Fox was the only network of the three mentioned that consistently said there was no evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election. In the end, Robert Mueller and his team agreed. Now, did Trump attempt to obstruct the investigation? Maybe, or maybe not. But, he was cleared of the accusation that originally launched the investigation, and Fox was the only network that was consistently right about it.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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That is false, Mueller did not clear trump, Mueller clearly stated he was unable to present charges and had to leave that up to the attorney general.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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He could not bring charges with respect to the obstruction of justice issues, not the collusion, He clearly stated that there was no collusion. I know CNN and others want you to believe otherwise, but if collusion was present, don't you think Schiff would have included it as part of his scam impeachment efforts?
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Of course he would've.
Apr 9, 2020, 2:24 PM
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Some people just can't accept that evil orange man didn't do what the liberal media so badly wanted him to have done.
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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Collusion is not a crime, not a legal term. Collusion was never debated. Collusion was term used by fox and trump cuz they knew he could never be found guilty of “collusion”. The issue was obstruction of justice. You can skip over Fox News and CNN, just look at the transcript, we were found that Trump committed obstruction. Period.
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Haha that’s a laugh! I only look at news online, so
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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Anyone that thinks CNN is reputable since Trump got elected is either incredibly dumb or they just don't watch.
They have been consistently wrong over the last few years when it comes to RUSSIA! HOw they still have any sort of credibility is beyond me.
Just watch some of the Project Veritas videos of their own employees saying they are completely biased against trump
Look at these awesome headlines
https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1224381233817321474?s=20
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Re: Is Fox News “Fair & Balanced” ? More than CNN & MSNBC !
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Thank you. You just proved my point.
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Your missing the argument here. It isn’t, is CNN not biased,
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it’s is a less or more biased than Fox. Fox is incredibly biased and partisan (at least the online content), so saying CNN is MORE objective isn’t saying CNN is reputable. I see CNN as less biased and more objective than Fox, but it’s still liberal and anti-Trump. Just not as much as Fox is anti-Dem.
*** just my view based on the online news content
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Trump isn't conservative.
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Criticizing him doesn't mean one is liberal.
Still amazing how many people think this man is a conservative or represents that ideology.
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Re: Trump isn't conservative.
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Catahoula is 100% on target. Stunning to think DJT has convinced folks he’s conservative. Think about the extreme far right Christians that think he’s their guy. Truely sad how they have been conned.
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Well you’re still criticizing someone they worship, so they’re not
Apr 9, 2020, 7:50 PM
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gonna take it well.
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When you set the bar that low even Felix can clear it.***
Apr 9, 2020, 3:37 PM
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I would prefer that no "liberal" or "conservative" views
Apr 10, 2020, 5:57 AM
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be given a platform on the news. When "views" are broadcast, then it's no longer news. It's just entertainment.
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The only way for anyone to say that is to...
Apr 10, 2020, 8:15 AM
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find a news source which reflects their personal preferences in bias. If that's not so with you please share your primary source of 'news,' and I will use it as mine until I find bias build into the reporting.
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Re: I would prefer that no "liberal" or "conservative" views
Apr 10, 2020, 9:43 AM
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I will try frontline.
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