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Orange Immortal [65717]
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Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 11:51 AM
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the future of Clemson football? First of all, Dabo has been grooming these guys for years for this opportunity; they are not fallback hires, or cost-cutting hires; they are exactly who the guy who built 2 National Champions and perennial playoff teams wanted. And the idea that these guys are a couple of greenhorns who may crap the bed is laughable. First, Streeter is a proven coordinator (6 years), and has schooled for 7 years under Dabo and Elliott/Scott. Wes Goodwin has NFL experience for God's sake, and has been praised by the coach who won the super bowl. Does any of that mean they will be succcessful at Clemson? NO - there are no guarantees, but if they fail it won't be because of a lack of knowledge or experience at a sufficent level. Come on people, be happy for Venables and Elliott, and let's look forward to a new era of Clemson football!
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Honestly...
Dec 21, 2021, 11:57 AM
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I would feel better if Saban did this. He doesn't.
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Orange Immortal [65717]
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LOL! I've noticed that Dabo does almost everything differently
Dec 21, 2021, 11:58 AM
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than Saban, and I'm fine with that.
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Paw Master [17038]
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Re: LOL!***
Dec 21, 2021, 12:00 PM
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This!
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Athletic Dir [1161]
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Re: Honestly...
Dec 21, 2021, 12:06 PM
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but, dabo doesn't do anything like saban does... he's not an a-hole to reporters.. his demeanor isn't always "pissed".. they're just different. no doubt saban's way works, but dabo's ain't too shabby, either.
what i am excited about is the unknown. the past 6 years or so, while it's been fun dominating the acc.. it's, undoubtedly, been boring (for the most part). i'm ready for some exciting games..
i know this isn't a popular opinion, but i enjoy a good game more than a blowout.
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Oculus Spirit [83641]
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Re: Honestly...
Dec 21, 2021, 12:21 PM
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he also doesn't have seasons like Clemson did this year against a much tougher schedule.
I don't like Saban, but he stays consistent.
This is not a criticism to Dabo, the environment he has created, or the coaches here, but organizations need fresh blood from time to time. Without fresh perspectives, you tend to grow used to hidden deficiencies and blind spots.
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Orange Immortal [63513]
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Re: Honestly...
Dec 21, 2021, 1:25 PM
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I see what you're saying. Kinda like what Rencher aluded to with the warts. As well as the former player that David Hood interviewed.
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Orange Immortal [65717]
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I get the part about new blood, and that's a valid concern
Dec 21, 2021, 2:26 PM
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for any organization. "Groupthink".
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CU Medallion [20868]
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Swap out the #102 QB in college football this season
Dec 21, 2021, 3:03 PM
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with merely a Top 40 or so, and we are very likely 13-0, ranked #1, and playing Cincy in a CFP semi-final.
DJ barely qualified as serviceable this season, to everyone's surprise. Ty Pho was nowhere near 100% either - no one comes back fully from a torn achilles in 6 months. Kind of a double whammy at the most important position. Thems the breaks.
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Re: Honestly...
Dec 21, 2021, 8:05 PM
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It's easier to be consistent when you're getting the #1 recruiting class literally every year at Alabama.
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Orange Blooded [2723]
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Re: Honestly...
Dec 21, 2021, 8:38 PM
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They get the #1 ranked class nearly every year because of Saban. He doesn’t get 10 position player classes (kickers excluded) when he has staff turnover.
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Orange Immortal [62866]
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Dynasty Maker [3415]
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Honestly?
Dec 21, 2021, 12:28 PM
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What are you talking about? I LOVE blowouts, given that Clemson is the one blowing out their opponent. Are you kidding me? To be able to relax and watch my favorite players dominate the other team is a true treat for me and when it happens I relish each precious second... including when our bench has been emptied and the starters are standing on the sidelines cheering for the 3rd and 4th team.
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Tiger Titan [50796]
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Same here!***
Dec 21, 2021, 3:05 PM
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Athletic Dir [1161]
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Re: Honestly?
Dec 27, 2021, 11:46 AM
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i said it wouldn't be a popular opinion. if i had my choice of 10 years... 10 championships.. all of which were blowout games vs 10 years 2-3 championships.. loaded w/ nail biters. give me the latter.
sports are a form of entertainment.. that's it.. at least that's all it should be. unless you're employment depends on it.
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Re: Honestly...
Dec 22, 2021, 3:05 PM
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Dabo has been an A hole to certain media persons, and deservingly so. I will assume that that the hate for Saban is mostly bc he has been so successful, and with him being a hated coach, it is really easy to nit pic reasons to hate him while denying your hate is bc he is so successful!!!
We all know Dabo and the image that he has among the Clemson faithful, and he is dearly loved by MOST of Tiger nation, and bc of his success at with Clemson FB, like Saban, he is a hated man, and it's only bc he has been so successful at Clemson. If Dabo, and Saban wasn't nearly as successful as they both are with their FB programs, the hate from other fan bases would be non existent, and that is 100% the truth!!!
If the success that those two man are having with their FB programs hadn't been for a decade plus, their names would never be brought up, and the fans that has all the negative thing to say about them would never be heard of, and that to is a fact!!!!!
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Orange Elite [5543]
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Saban probably would groom replacements from within
Dec 21, 2021, 12:15 PM
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if anyone stuck around that long.
It appears to me that Bama turns over their entire staff from coaches to analysts every couple of years. Coaches go there to either build their resume or repair their reputation - then they get the hell out.
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Orange Beast [6237]
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Weak argument against playing or working for bama
Dec 21, 2021, 10:11 PM
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Before they get the #%** out, they win championships.
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Re: Honestly...
Dec 21, 2021, 10:03 PM
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that is because no one stays with him long enough for him to do this... two different cultures.. we cannot argue with saban's success, but be careful with what you wish for ...
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It's been a rough year but I am excited.
Dec 21, 2021, 12:08 PM
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It reminds me of the movie Sixteen Candles.
Sam wakes up on her birthday, the whole family is distracted by her older and hotter sister's upcoming wedding. No one even acknowledges it.
She has to share her bedroom with a Chinese exchange student who is named after duck's dork, her grandma feels her up in the hallway, and to top it all off, the biggest nerd in high school borrows her panties and charges the other nerds a dollar to see them in bathroom.
But in the end, she gets the popular, rich stud athlete Jake and they have a romantic evening with a cake.
That's how I see our season ending. Just like that.
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Ultimate Tiger [34397]
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Re: It's been a rough year but I am excited.
Dec 21, 2021, 8:41 PM
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I am worried for you my friend. I suggest you check out other channels, maybe man up and watch some Hallmark. Just saying…
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 12:10 PM
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All good points and Dabo certainly has the right to develop his bench and promote from within. My only beef is that a consistent top 5 program can have its pick of the best available coordinators across the country so why not at least look at the competition and compare that with what you have rather than just stubbornly ignoring all the available talent out there? If Best is the Standard then you need to look at the Best that is available and not close your mind to only the talent you have developed. To me, that is not being disloyal to anyone; it is just being smart and thoughtful to consider all of the possibilities.
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 12:12 PM
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BTW, the same comment goes with the way we use or don't use the portal as well!
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 9:14 PM
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Answer to both assumptions- How do you truly know Dabo didn’t look elsewhere first? All we know is what we are told. He is a 10 million dollar coach for a reason and honestly, to assume otherwise, is assanine!! I don’t agree with everything either but like most here, am no football coach!
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 1:11 PM
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First, it is downright decent of you to allow Swinney the right to name his coordinators. sEcond, the only OC I can think of who might have been an outside candidate was Joe Brady, but he just got fired by the Panthers. Oops.
WE will be different, but we are in good shape.
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Tiger Titan [50796]
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I’m eager to see what they can do, and I’m cautiously optimistic.
Dec 21, 2021, 12:12 PM
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I have every confidence that they are good coaches, knowledgeable, hard working, and good people. I believe they love Clemson. They deserve our support for sure.
But I would be lying if I said I’m excited. We have been an elite program recently and I believe we should hire the best and brightest. Perhaps Dabo recognized that they are the best and brightest years ago and has groomed them well, and we have the best coordinators in college football. But we must be prepared that this strategy to promote from within is going to backfire if we hope to return to elite status in the near future.
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Very good assessment and I completely concur.***
Dec 21, 2021, 12:23 PM
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Of course hiring from outside can backfire as well.
Dec 21, 2021, 1:45 PM
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But at least in that scenario, they have proven themselves as a coordinator elsewhere and other coaches can vouch for their talents/success.
Dabo is a great judge of character. I don’t see him being wrong about an outside candidate he has interviewed and vetted.
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Orange Immortal [65717]
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Do you think the fact that he promoted from within indicates
Dec 21, 2021, 1:38 PM
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that Dabo has a "strategy to promote from within"? Meaning, that promoting from within is his strategy, or a key component of his strategy? Because I don't see that at all. Don't misunderstand me - I understand the advantages and how they apply in this situation, but I don't think Dabo starts with that, as in "okay, we need a new coordinator, and my fundamental strategy is to hire from within, so that's what we'll do no matter who else is available from outside our program". I don't think that's the case at all; in fact, that's total ########.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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I don't think it mattered who was available........
Dec 21, 2021, 1:46 PM
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Dabo was promoting an OC & DC from within the current staff.
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Orange Immortal [65717]
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That was not the question, but thanks anyway.***
Dec 21, 2021, 2:12 PM
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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but it's the answer whether you accept it or not
Dec 21, 2021, 2:49 PM
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your welcome
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Tiger Titan [50796]
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Yes, I firmly believe that Dabo’s plan at this point is to promote from within.
Dec 21, 2021, 1:51 PM
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He did it when Morris left, and now he has done it with Venables and Elliott leaving.
Dabo’s recent outside hires seem to be limited to those who he has either coached or worked closely with, and who have ties to Clemson. The plan seems to be that those coaches will learn and grow here, and be ready to move up in responsibility at Clemson.
You heard our new coordinators say that Dabo had been planning to promote from within and that’s why they stayed here.
Dabo had no intention of going outside or even looking outside to fill these positions. He’s been planning for this for years.
So yes, I absolutely believe that this is Dabo’s fundamental strategy and he has offered no recent evidence to the contrary.
It’s not like he considered current staff and also interviewed outside candidates. I would bet good money that he didn’t make a single call to inquire about anyone else to fill these recent openings.
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Orange Immortal [65717]
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You're not following.
Dec 21, 2021, 2:23 PM
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Two entirely different strategies:
1. My primary hiring strategy is to hire and promote from within. I think it's always best to hire from within. I will not look outside the program, even if there may be better candidates out there. I like to keep things in house for various reasons.
THAT would be a "hire from within strategy".
2. My hiring strategy is to hire the best possible candidate. In this case, I have two guys on staff who I have been observing, teaching, and grooming for these positions for years. I feel that they are, all the way around, the best candidates for these positions available for Clemson. I identified them long ago and this is the plan. Therefore there is no need for me to interview anyone from outside the program.
That is what happened here, and that is NOT a "hire from within strategy".
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Tiger Titan [50796]
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Thanks for clarifying.
Dec 21, 2021, 2:59 PM
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To me, the difference between your two strategies is insignificant because Dabo clearly prefers to hire from within and isn’t interested in looking outside anymore.
I don’t believe Dabo truly thinks that Brandon Streeter is the beat offensive coordinator in college football, or that Mickey Conn and Wes Goodwin are the best defensive coordinators in college football. He couldn’t possibly think that if he is being honest and objective.
However, I do think that he thinks those guys are the best situation for our program, because Dabo seems to place a premium on doing things his way and in keeping with the culture he has built. I admire his commitment to those principles, but I think it runs the risk of missing out on new styles and new ideas.
The notion that outside coaches can’t be the right culture fit here is eerily similar to the idea that players from the transfer portal won’t be good culture fits. I just don’t want to see us become too insulated and fail to capitalize on the many bright and innovative talents out there.
To me, if our culture is as wonderful and strong and powerful as we believe it is, we should trust that it won’t crumble even if someone new isn’t the best fit. That’s true whether we are talking about a coach or a player.
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Orange Immortal [65717]
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A lot to unpack there.
Dec 21, 2021, 5:01 PM
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I agree that Dabo prefers to identify coaches who have the potential to be coordinators and head coaches, hire them, groom them, and promote them accordingly. I think that is a fantastic strategy.
It does not follow, however, that he will no longer go outside the program if need be; that is faulty logic. Does he believe Streeter is the best OC in the country? Probably not, but that's not the way these things work. Was Kevin Steele tha best DC in the country? Was Chad Morris the best OC in the country? Was Steve Sarkisisn or Bill O'Brien the best OC in the country? No. It could always be argued there was somebody better, so it's a dumb argument. Only one team can have the best OC in the country, and every team besides that one can't be in a panic and in turmoil because they don't have that one imaginary guy. So relax. Does Dabo believe that Streeter is the best OC in the history of mankind? Stop it already. I'm sure he does believe that Streeter is fully capable of getting us back to a playoff caliber offense, and I'm good with that. If Dabo didn't believe that, he'd go outside the program in a heartbeat to bring in somebody that could. To suggest otherwise is laughable.
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Tiger Titan [50796]
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I agree that Dabo would go outside the program to hire a coordinator if he felt that he needed to.
Dec 21, 2021, 7:31 PM
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I just don’t see him thinking he needs to at this point, because he’s that confident in his hire and promote from within method.
My concern is that he has lost objectivity, and is so focused on our way and our people that he didn’t even stop to truly consider anyone from outside the program for these coordinator hires. If so, that’s concerning.
In terms of hiring the best, I certainly realize that there can only be one best and who that is can be debated. My point is that our program is to the point where we should strive to have the best. “Best is the Standard,” after all. We’ve put way too much into our program at this point to settle for less than stellar coaches on staff.
Again, my hope is that our new coordinators are that high caliber. If not, it would be frustrating to see them trying to learn on the job while Dabo asks for our patience. Know what I mean?
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Orange Immortal [65717]
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And that's where we disagree.
Dec 21, 2021, 8:18 PM
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I don't think he's lost his objectivity. I just think he's doing what he thinks is best, what is right for Clemson. As I tried to explain earlier, while there may be OCs out there who almost everybody would agree are "better" than Streeter, it's still just an opinion, and they may not be better for Clemson. That's obviously Dabo's opinion, and I tend to think he maybe right. Just like TDP was right when he hired Dabo. I certainly trust his judgement, and I don't understand how this is an indication that he's lost his ability to think objectively. I know his way is different than most, but it's worked extremely well until this year, and I have no reason not to trust his judgement.
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 12:13 PM
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I like being in the underdog role. So does Dabo. Everyone now has lots of reasons why Clemson can't do this or that, and Dabo wants to load up the Roy Bus and head to the natty!
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 12:37 PM
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You know, maybe this is what it takes to get the "pundits" and talking heads to admit that Dabo has the formula and that the culture isn't going anywhere. I would absolutely love to see Finebaum and others completely dumbfounded when (not if) we make it back into the playoffs and win it all.
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that's exactly what it will take........
Dec 21, 2021, 1:55 PM
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Dabo hasn't "made it to the mountain top" w/o BV or JS/TE leading the defense & Offense. Saban does it every year or two. We'll see if Dabo can check that box................He has more boxes he needs to check NOW than he did 3+ years ago.
-can he sustain an elite program at Clemson w/o the OC & DC that brought him to elite status?
-can he fix the roster management issues created by the portal era?
-can he navigate the NIL recruiting waters?
-can he ADAPT?
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That is a lot to overcome. I believe Dabo can do it
Dec 21, 2021, 1:57 PM
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but I will be surprised if we are in the playoffs again before 2023 at the earliest.
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Re: that's exactly what it will take........
Dec 21, 2021, 9:41 PM
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25 players a year also help Saban. Dabo will not process players. Like it or not, Dabo is about their life as a whole and not just football.
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 12:16 PM
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I really like promoting Streeter. With Goodwin, the real unknown is if he can recruit. He clearly is knowledgeable on the X's and O's. They have got to have a full and good recruiting class next year or the fall back will start. I just don't see how Goodwin draws players like a more experienced DC would.
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 12:22 PM
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Who’s DJ’s groomsman?
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 12:31 PM
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Shucks, it is what it is. Dabo has made his decision and we are gonna live with his decision. Am I excited about the Coordinators? I have no clue how they will perform in their current job but, they did a real good job in their previous assignments. Good indicator. I guess time will tell. In the meantime I'm gonna support the Clemson Tigers win, lose or tie. Go tigers.
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I am looking forward to seeing the players kick cyclone tail
Dec 21, 2021, 12:32 PM
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on the 29th under their leadership! Good lead into the spring!
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TBD***
Dec 21, 2021, 1:35 PM
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 1:41 PM
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While I agree with what you're saying, Wes's resume and accolades speak for themself. Wonderful peer comments. But we don't have to stretch it and act like omg, he's got tons of coordinator experience. He worked in the NFL for a couple years. No doubt he's got knowledge of our defense and learned under the best. But he's green from the standpoint he's never been a coordinator. Imo, as I've said b4, exactly why he made him the co coordinator. Conn can help him a ton.
All that said, I believe it's a wonderful hire. All 3 of them. The bottom line to me, can they bring in the Jimmy and Joes. Dabo already said we're running the same offense and defense so it doesn't matter to me if they recruit well.
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 5:39 PM
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Yes I like it. Dabo knows what he’s doing.
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Orange Immortal [68044]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 3:16 PM
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I'm excited to see what they can do/any new wrinkles, etc.
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Walk-On [138]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 3:31 PM
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i agree. This should be a plus for Clemson. yes we lost Ventables but we got a great vision Goodwin. Give him a chance. Yes we lost Elliott. This is a big gain. A coach with vision like speed up the offense and vision of attact rether than automatically surrounder. Great moves by Dabo.
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Legend [6933]
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If we win the bowl game handily, then I will be excited
Dec 21, 2021, 4:21 PM
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about next year.
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Starter [272]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 6:58 PM
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Great organizations all develop from within, I realize that model exists rarely(if ever) in football but Dabo has made it clear he is building a program that others will copy and they are. Hire people with potential and develop them. Reward them!
Outside hires in most organizations are a sign of failure, bring in the turnaround guy to fix it. I recognize many believe they witnessed failure this year but obviously Dabo doesn’t agree.
Dabo’s process is textbook, doesn’t guarantee it will work. I’m pulling for him and his staff to pull it off. I believe 2022 is the start of another 10 year run and I believe we can be back in ACC championship next year.
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National Champion [8071]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 7:58 PM
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I am.
Dabo took Clemson from not having double-digit wins over multiple years - to - having strung together multiple years of nothing but double-digit wins!
From the outhouse to the big house of the CFB world!
Why wouldn't a Clemson fan not have faith in the decisions he has made thus far?
I didn't know anything about Dabo when he was announced as HC except one thing - "he was a heck of a recruiter"! I recall telling someone; at least he has that!
But, I was wrong! He is so much more than just a great recruiter! He is a man of vision and in his vision, he planned for coaching departures!
The coaches who will get these opportunities in my opinion are going to do well! NC well - IDK! Who knows with how fluid the CFB world is as a whole; but I know they have been groomed for it and Dabo believes in them!
That's enough for me - so to answer the question again, "I can't wait to see what they bring; I think it's going to be a good splash of different"!
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Valley Protector [1406]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 8:34 PM
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Excited to see the new coaches lead. CU couldn’t hold on to coaches E and V forever. They’ll do well and so will our new coordinators. Go Tigers!,,
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Dynasty Maker [3350]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 9:51 PM
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I’m excited about the new hires. They are young, smart and ambitious. And don’t discount the value of hiring someone who knows the team well. Continuity.
On the other side, there is a certain amount of risk coming here. With all of our success in recent years there are bigger and richer programs where the odds may look better to potential candidates.
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Varsity [104]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 9:58 PM
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I’m thrilled about the future!!
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Paw Warrior [4845]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 21, 2021, 10:13 PM
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Any ideas as to who takes the place of the recently departed???
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Clemson Icon [26071]
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He's doing only what he said he would. Seems to be working.***
Dec 22, 2021, 1:58 AM
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All-American [552]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 22, 2021, 3:14 PM
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Yes
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Heisman Winner [80132]
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Yep!***
Dec 22, 2021, 3:14 PM
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Varsity [114]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 22, 2021, 3:19 PM
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Nope
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Varsity [114]
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Re: Anybody else EXCITED about our new coordinators and
Dec 22, 2021, 3:19 PM
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Nope
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CU Medallion [20950]
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ST, I have always appreciated your posts ...
Dec 22, 2021, 5:34 PM
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And like you, I am excited about these promotions especially Goodwin who has been built up as a high IQ photographic-memory savant.
My take is the talent on this Clemson team has taken a pretty big hit since the best ever Clemson football team of 2018. And Dabo will have his hands full bringing this team back to the top of the mountain. But he is unphased and excited for the challenge, and that is all we can ask for based upon his track record.
My biggest concern is how we will replace the coaches, players and difference makers who were collegiate superstars with equal or better players: TL16, BV, Power Rangers, IS11, freshman JR8, Tee, etc. etc.
Bresee and TD13 are rock solid with big upside but have been injury prone. M. Murphy, one of our top 5 overall players, has been a co-starter (what gives)? Weak O-line showed some rushing improvement vs bad teams at year-end. RB position shows potential. But to be honest these 2018/19/20 stars were never replaced with equivalent talent. Dabo is one he11uva coach but until this talent gap with the big boys (Bama, Ohio St, 2019 LSU) is evened up, he will be pressed to put a product on the field that matches our top 2018 squad and playoff caliber teams. It's a WIP.
Many top recruits have high-level promise (Trotter, Carter, Leigh, Page, Stellato, Denhoff, Briningstool, Linthicum, Pennington, Chandler, Tate, Mafah, Klubnick, Covil, Sadler, Lukus, Pride, Miller and Williams) and a handful have played and demonstrated big-time skill sets (B. Collins and Shipley). 2022 looks like a year we return as ACC champs, but IMHO these young up-and-comers need some reps and development to ascend to playoff level in 2023/24. Hopefully, some of these o-linemen, defenders and skill players will break out. QB will again be key. Hello Mr. Klubnick. Tigers need your mobility, accuracy and leadership when you and coaches are ready to put you in.
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Clemson Icon [27753]
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Re: ST, I have always appreciated your posts ...tD
Dec 22, 2021, 9:23 PM
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In a word ......spring ball.
That and the individual summer workouts is where good teams become great teams.
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