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TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 8:00 AM
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 8:10 AM
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Weird that you don’t mention Hunter Johnson. He obviously hasn’t lived up to the massive hype he had coming out of high school, but he’s a former 5*, he’s very mature (not just age, but character) and it may be the first time in history that a transfer returns after several years to a place he is already familiar with. The offense has no doubt changed a bit, but the surroundings are super familiar and comfortable. If DJ struggles, Hunter means that we don’t have to push Cade if he’s not ready — and we still have a great option — meaning our QB situation compared to last year would have to have disaster hit to not be better.
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Game Day Hero [4361]
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 8:28 AM
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Not sure I agree with the idea of cutting down the plays and shifting to more post snap options by the WRs. If we learned one thing about DJ it’s his slow recognition of the action downfield and staring down his primary receiver. Adding more opportunities for him to not be on the same page with the receivers sounds like a great way to throw more INTs.
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Orange Elite [5212]
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That’s what I immediately thought.
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Jun 16, 2022, 9:08 AM
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I’m not a coach though but I thought the same exact thing.
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Fewer but still plenty
Jun 16, 2022, 10:58 AM
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I hear you on the logic, but I want to suggest there's still PLENTY of good designed pass plays & the point is only that they'll have to memorize fewer of them; the lack of use of the middle of the field the last two years, for example, opens that up by nature with the two new playcalling hires, for example.
When a WR sees an opening, particularly outside or deep & can get past his man, I gotta say, that's vastly more exciting to me than concerning, & it seems much more likely to have exceptional results by nature with deliberately bringing back tempo.
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 27, 2022, 8:13 PM
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Lord, I hope not.
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CU Medallion [20899]
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Respectfully do not understand those who believe poor to avg
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Jun 16, 2022, 8:51 PM
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... QB's can correct their shortcomings in one offseason. And in Hunter's case, this will be his sixth season. And Hunter understands he is on the squad to coach and backup as a step into a grad asst position.
This is a KEY SEASON. Unless Murphy, Simpson, Bresee and Davis come back for another season, doubtful as 3 of 4 are seen as early 1st round picks, this season represents the best opportunity to win in the playoffs over the next few seasons. For all the deserved hoopla that TL16, Tee, JR8 and Renfrow received in 2018, it was CW42, the Power Rangers, BV and the Tiger Defense leading the way to Natl Championship. This year's Defense has a shot to play at the same level as the 2018 squad. I hate to see the team waste this talented D by not playing our best QB and best O-lineman. Our excellent coaches will need to coach up Tiger players with the most potential and early in the season to win out ... a difficult task and an opportunity.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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As bad as DJ was at QB last year, not even DW4......
Jun 16, 2022, 8:13 AM
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would've had a successful year w/ our WRs & Oline. None of our current 2-deep WRs would sniff the field on our 2015-2018 teams...........and right now it's our worst WR corps in over a decade.............hopefully they step it up this year or else the talent just really isn't there.
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Game Changer [1808]
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Re: As bad as DJ was at QB last year, not even DW4......
Jun 16, 2022, 9:13 AM
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We need more short passes to Tight Ends and the Slot Receivers. That will open up the outside and mix in a few QB runs.
Seemed like we tried to get DJ to stand back and hit the WR, pretty one dimensional. He was a sitting duck with a low success rate.
We have all the options for a wide open Clemson offense in 2022, let’s go Tigers!
Go Tigers, Wreck Tech!
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Re: As bad as DJ was at QB last year, not even DW4......
Jun 16, 2022, 9:18 AM
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And running back screens. We have a lot of talent at that position and need to get them the ball in space. I really liked the 2 back formation at the end of last year. Spreads the defense when one goes to the flat and one goes up the middle.
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Freshman [-74]
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TEs and RBs had 80 catches combined in 2021
Jun 16, 2022, 3:10 PM
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In our national championship year of 2018, TEs and RBs combined for 46 catches.
We most definitely targeted TEs and RBs a-plenty last year. What we really need to do to make progress is increase the output of our WRs. If we can do that and spread the field more in addition to a very solid backfield, then we will be a playoff team once again.
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Re: As bad as DJ was at QB last year, not even DW4......
Jun 16, 2022, 12:09 PM
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Bet we would have beat GA with DW4 and NCST. Fact is when the pocket broke down DW4 made stuff happen with his legs. DJ can’t do that. I know DW4 wouldn’t have been sacked 6 times by GA. So to say DW4 wouldn’t have been more successful last year is so laughable.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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successful by "our recent standards"..........
Jun 16, 2022, 1:27 PM
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obviously DW4 is much better than DJ, but DW4 wouldn't have taken us to a national title in 21........there wasn't even close to the amount of offensive supporting weapons to get there.
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CU Guru [1574]
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Re: successful by "our recent standards"..........
Jun 16, 2022, 2:45 PM
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I don't agree. Any of the previous starting quarterbacks from the last decade cold have made the playoffs last year, even with the injuries.
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Letterman [172]
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Re: successful by "our recent standards"..........
Jun 16, 2022, 11:27 PM
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That's just flat out stupid. We were playing 4th team WRs and TEs with a 3rd string OLine. Tom Brady, DW4, Patrick Mahomes, Ect would not have made a difference. To think anything else is simply irresponsible and stupid!
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Standout [240]
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Re: successful by "our recent standards"..........
Jun 17, 2022, 9:08 PM
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Considering we lost 3 games mainly bc of 2 pick 6s and a strip sack fumble td...we weren't very far off from a playoff berth. Were we at our best? No. To think with dw4 as our qb we wouldn't have scored on GA, and beat ncst is ridiculous. Our defense was the best in the country even with injuries. Big Cinco was the main reason our offense struggled and D was constantly tired. Before Trevor we made it to a title game with purely defense and couldn't score in it bc of our qb, but still kept things relatively close with our D. Defense wins championships period, ask Ga. All we need is a qb to play "pretty" good and we can win every game this season. Go Tigers!!
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Freshman [-74]
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Re: As bad as DJ was at QB last year, not even DW4......
Jun 16, 2022, 3:25 PM
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Yeah it's pretty hard to imagine DW wouldn't be worth an additional TD per game, at a minimum, which would have won us at least two more games and probably gotten us into the playoffs.
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Re: As bad as DJ was at QB last year, not even DW4......
Jun 17, 2022, 9:13 AM
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Yeah, Deshaun was probably the greatest qb in clemson history. He’s an all pro caliber qb who just earned a $200 plus million contract . . . Pretty sure he would’ve done better
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Freshman [-74]
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Bullcrap. EJ Williams, Joe Ngata, the Collins kids
Jun 16, 2022, 2:59 PM
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Taylor, Stellato, and Spector, let alone highly recruited newcomers Antonio Williams, Adam Randall are all good players. That's 2-3 deep at every spot.
Plus, I noticed you do NOTHING but complain, and when you do you always reach with some contrived BS. You NEVER post unless it's some nonsense. Why is that?
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Re: Bullcrap. EJ Williams, Joe Ngata, the Collins kids
Jun 16, 2022, 3:21 PM
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How can you say that we are 2-3 deep at every position when not a SINGLE player you listed has had a good full season? Jesus, we're starting to sound like Gamecock fans
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Freshman [-74]
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Yeah, again, we were wrecked by injuries
Jun 17, 2022, 12:46 AM
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You are one slow coot, coot.
We're gonna demolish you again, and again, and again. You may reach puberty before you're competitive again... and even that is hard to imagine.
Give it a rest, dufus. You're fooling no one.
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Tiger Spirit [9144]
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3 cupcakes to start the year will help lock it up***
Jun 16, 2022, 8:21 AM
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Re: 3 cupcakes to start the year will help lock it up***
Jun 16, 2022, 9:33 AM
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Go back and review the game vs GAT from last year. We struggled on our field to put them away. Now we go to ATL. Clearly the better QB played for GAT.
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Re: 3 cupcakes to start the year will help lock it up***
Jun 16, 2022, 10:49 AM
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Tigers by 21+ this year. It’s statement time.
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Freshman [-74]
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Exactly.***
Jun 16, 2022, 3:12 PM
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Tiger Spirit [9928]
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Amari Rodgers was pretty #### good in the slot.***
Jun 16, 2022, 8:25 AM
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Re: Amari Rodgers was pretty #### good in the slot.***
Jun 16, 2022, 9:19 AM
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Yea. I thought the same thing…
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Heisman Winner [85987]
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Amari was great once he got the ball. However, he did not
Jun 16, 2022, 9:54 AM
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possess the uncanny Renfrow ability to seemingly be open at will. (Neither does anybody else, which is why Renfrow just got PAID!)
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Varsity [107]
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Re: Amari was great once he got the ball. However, he did not
Jun 16, 2022, 11:44 AM
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all true but the statement implied there hasn't been anyone any good since Hunter. Amari was excellent. The slot has been key since the Chad years. Throw in Scott who also was such a vital cog in the machine
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Dynasty Maker [3316]
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The addition of John Grass as an analyst might help
Jun 16, 2022, 8:25 AM
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Was successful as an Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach at Jacksonville State. He brings a good acumen as a new Special Assistant to the Offense.
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All-TigerNet [6093]
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Considering TE's 1 page crayon marked playbook is gone
Jun 27, 2022, 8:28 PM
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THINGS WILL DEFINITELY BE BETTER!! No matter who is the QB-1, Streeter has to be more creative than Elliott
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 8:32 AM
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Sorry you missed last year Ryan. We have never had a year with so many injuries and that led to some bad football on both sides of the ball. There is nothing major the coaches need to do if our players are healthy.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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you can blame it on injuries all you want, but bottomline...
Jun 16, 2022, 9:00 AM
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is our offensive talent/experience/productivity even when 100% healthy CURRENTLY is WAY down from what our 2015-2018 teams possessed..............which is the bar that has been set.
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Re: you can blame it on injuries all you want, but bottomline...
Jun 16, 2022, 11:47 AM
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it just seems like a whole different philosophy. They relied on the superstar abilities and forgot the basics. The system the last 2 years seems decades behind the current high flying college football landscape
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Freshman [-74]
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Both the OL and WRs were wrecked with injuries,
Jun 16, 2022, 3:17 PM
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and combined with barely functional QB that's why we "only" finished with a 10 win season (third longest streak history) and a #14 ranking. We had no business doing that with the injuries and QB play, but this staff and players adjusted and made it happen anyway.
With less injuries and solid QB play, there's no one on our schedule who we shouldn't beat.
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Clemson Sports Icon [53063]
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Re: you can blame it on injuries all you want, but bottomline...
Jun 16, 2022, 4:20 PM
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Trevor Lawrence & Deshaun Watson where money when the game was on the line. A lot of our offense is dealing with losing such great players. It’s easy to look good even when your offense isn’t that good with those guys.
Trevor or Deshaun with this offense wouldn’t miss a beat at all!
We need exceptional QB play & better OL, TE & WR play especially blocking down the field! Great QB play can get us to the playoffs!
We have the defense to win it all if our CB’s do well and stay healthy!
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110%er [6166]
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Last year was a “generationally bad” year for injuries ...
Jun 16, 2022, 10:45 AM
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... and it was not just the number f injuries, but the specific personnel who got hurt and how much time they missed.
I won’t blame every woe from last year on injuries, but there is little doubt that if we make a full “180” health wise, we will be much better than last year for that reason alone.
I’ve watched Clemson since 1958 and I don’t ever recall so many important players get seriously hurt at so many critical spots.
Go Tigers! Stay Healthy!
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Re: Last year was a “generationally bad” year for injuries ...
Jun 16, 2022, 3:23 PM
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Specifically, which superstar players did we lose that would've changed the outcome of our season?
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110%er [6166]
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Re: Last year was a “generationally bad” year for injuries ...
Jun 16, 2022, 4:49 PM
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It was more of a cumulative effect of losing people for the season, losing people for part of the season, losing people for individual games, losing people for parts of games.
Do I actually need to try to enumerate all the specifics for you?
Probably not. I think you know exactly what I mean.
But just for fun ... how about:
Brian Breesee?
Joseph Ngata??
Will Shipley?
Matt Bockhorst?
EJ Henderson?
James Skalski?
Xavier Thomas?
Dietrich Pennington?
Brannon Spector?
Troy Stellato?
And yes, DJU as well even though he didn’t actually miss time.
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110%er [6166]
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... and you can add Will Taylor to the list.***
Jun 17, 2022, 1:37 PM
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 8:41 AM
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With all the problems of last season, and we know there was a plenty, the team still managed a 10 win season by crushing the coots, and with a huge win in the bowl game against a decent Iowa State team. Bravo, and I'm hoping for a much better 2022 season....
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 9:37 AM
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True.
But I think 5 of our 10 wins were against subpar competition and still went down to the last minutes. And the D bailed us out.
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TigerNet Immortal [173044]
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but...we still won.***
Jun 16, 2022, 9:50 AM
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 11:48 AM
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Yep. The defense won 10 8games last year. Darn near beat the national champs except the offense let up a TD
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Orange Phenom [14754]
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I try not to take too much from the 2022 Spring game but
Jun 16, 2022, 8:55 AM
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both the orange and white team offenses were about as painful to watch as our regular season offense last year.
During the Spring game, DJ seemed to have a little more touch on the ball (not everything was a fast ball) but his accuracy issues seemed to be the same. What was more troubling about the Spring game was that both offensive lines were the most porous of any I have seen at Clemson during Dabo's tenure. Maybe our defensive lines are just that good or the fact that a lot of our scholarship players were out for the game affected how the offensive lines looked. Regardless, instead of being optimistic about our 2022 offense after the Spring game it left me with a continued negative impression.
I know the coaches and players will work hard over the summer and fall camps to get better so let's just hope the injury bug can be avoided and the team can put it all together by the start of the season.
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Re: I try not to take too much from the 2022 Spring game but
Jun 16, 2022, 9:23 AM
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All of what you mentioned contributed to the lack of offense in the spring game. I hope the biggest factor was that we have so much depth on the D line that we could field 2 teams with players that would start almost anywhere and we are so thin on the O line that splitting them up created some huge gaps against those great D linemen. If that is the case we may still be ok.
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Dynasty Maker [3570]
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Re: I try not to take too much from the 2022 Spring game but
Jun 16, 2022, 10:43 AM
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I agree with what you said. I think this is the most talent across the entire 11 on defense I’ve ever seen at Clemson, and we have great backups too. We have four 5* DL, two 5* LBs and the top ranked middle LB from his class (Trotter Jr), two 5* CB (I’m not sure if I’m correct here but I know Lukus was) and a TON of High 4* players in the rotation. That is insane. Most of the front 7 are upperclassmen as well. When you have all of that talent playing fast, and a bunch of starting offensive lineman not playing AND split up, it’s going to look bad.
I think our defense will be better this year from last, and our offense to be MUCH better. We won’t have any real idea what the entire offense will look like until game 1.
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Dynasty Maker [3570]
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Re: I try not to take too much from the 2022 Spring game but
Jun 16, 2022, 10:43 AM
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I agree with what you said. I think this is the most talent across the entire 11 on defense I’ve ever seen at Clemson, and we have great backups too. We have four 5* DL, two 5* LBs and the top ranked middle LB from his class (Trotter Jr), two 5* CB (I’m not sure if I’m correct here but I know Lukus was) and a TON of High 4* players in the rotation. That is insane. Most of the front 7 are upperclassmen as well. When you have all of that talent playing fast, and a bunch of starting offensive lineman not playing AND split up, it’s going to look bad.
I think our defense will be better this year from last, and our offense to be MUCH better. We won’t have any real idea what the entire offense will look like until game 1.
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 9:11 AM
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We dont need the offense to start the season elite... just be functional... and then build it up from there. If it is functional at the beginning, some of these talented guys will start to blossom then by year end we may have something to run with.
The defense should be good enough to allow this to happen and still win a lot of ball games.
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Athletic Dir [1101]
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 11:00 AM
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Very true. The way the schedule is they can likely be incrementally better, or functional as you call it, for the first month of the season. The key in that scenario will be staying healthy and showing growth.
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Starter [287]
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One of the most honest and refreshing
Jun 16, 2022, 9:19 AM
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Assessments that I have read
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Athletic Dir [1101]
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Re: One of the most honest and refreshing
Jun 16, 2022, 11:00 AM
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I really appreciate that.
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it all starts with the OL***
Jun 16, 2022, 9:33 AM
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 9:38 AM
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If QB1 has the same trouble reading a defense quickly and making a decision and still has that windmill windup throwing motion it won’t matter about the other positions. We will have to slog it out with the running game the way we did the last 3-4 games and hope DJ doesn’t do enough to lose games.
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Nowhere to go but up = 100% fixable
Jun 16, 2022, 10:50 AM
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Yes, it can all be "fixed," as in injuries, including the starting QB. Done!
The schedule is as favorable as it gets, including 3 below-average opponents to tune up with to start the season.
The roster has vastly more talent than anyone this team will face & it has the 3rd-most experience in the league.
Plus being last in the ACC last year, our offense has nowhere to go but up.
What's interesting is the article doesn't mention anything about the middle of the field outright, an area that was deliberately unused last year & one that has been explicitly targeted by two of the new offensive coaches in the past.
The middle is where Clemson made hay during both CFP national titles, & it's worth getting excited about for 2022.
Bringing back tempo & having fewer designed passing plays with more post-snap options seems like a recipe for disaster for every opponent on this schedule.
Great job by Ryan here; I crave these deep-dive articles about the staff, roster & concepts. Go Tigers!
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Athletic Dir [1101]
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Re: Nowhere to go but up = 100% fixable
Jun 16, 2022, 11:01 AM
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Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
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Varsity [107]
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Re: Nowhere to go but up = 100% fixable
Jun 16, 2022, 11:52 AM
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agreed - good article. it's not unfair criticism when you provide good analysis and can back it up. Last year there was a lot of denial. Can't repeat that or they'll never get over the hump.
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Game Day Hero [4368]
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Hopefully Adam Randall can be healthy enough to
Jun 16, 2022, 11:12 AM
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Contribute, but I’m hopeful we finally figure out how to exploit the TE in the passing game, as briningstool is an absolute stud.
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Offensive Star [304]
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 12:53 PM
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First, I think we are exactly where we were when Trevor was in
the wings hoping Kelly Bryant was gonna work out.
Unfortunately for DJ, I think his abilities mirror Kelly Bryant's
And Cade just might contain both Deshawn and Trevor's abilities and
football IQ. My bet is Cade will be the QB by the ND game.
DJ simply Cannot read defenses, as evidenced in the spring game when
a January enrollee read his eyes and picked him and gave Cade the shot
to come in and win the game. Dabo has no choice but to give DJ time to
get better and also give Cade live game experience to be ready.
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Game Changer [1831]
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 1:06 PM
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Not saying I know anything (which I don't), but just sayin' Great quarterbacks bring up the play of everyone around them. They make average receivers look like stars. They inspire running backs and offensive lines to give that little bit extra. At team can still be really good without a great QB, but it is significantly harder.
The offense is very fixable (assuming that it is even broken at all), but it takes time to develop new qb's. If DJ does not become the great QB we all hope that he is there is still hope. However if it plays out like I expect we will lose a game or even two before we find out if DJ has been corrected. After that it will be a case of playout this season, maybe get the ACC title and hope for the best in QB development next season.
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Orange Elite [5355]
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 3:24 PM
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At least we have an option this year we didn’t have last year. “Gitter done” or next man up. We’ve had a year to fix the issues we saw last year.
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Dynasty Maker [3118]
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 18, 2022, 11:20 AM
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I agree. As bad as everyone thinks TP was, he always brought a spark to the offense and generally got us down the field and scored, even if only a field goal. The QB is key to the offense. The 3 and out killed us in some games last year. I think the new coaches are excited to coach this year, so hopefully, it will show on the field.
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Paw Warrior [4790]
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Ryan Linthicum?
Jun 16, 2022, 3:19 PM
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Linthicum was billed as one of the best Centers in the nation and a huge Get for the Tigers in the 2021 class. He's been in the program for a year and a half now, and he's not even getting a mention in the article?
What's the deal here? I'm fully aware that OL takes time to develop and don't normally start being productive until year 3 or 4. But, with the hype around Linthicum, I kinda expected to see him make some noise in his Freshman year, and certainly for the 2022 season.
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1st Rounder [633]
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Re: Ryan Linthicum?
Jun 16, 2022, 3:26 PM
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Clearly he was overhyped
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Orange Blooded [2992]
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Re: Ryan Linthicum?
Jun 16, 2022, 3:32 PM
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He is RS Fresh,. Center is the hardest spot on the OL, to say he is overrated is utterly ridiculous!
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Orange Blooded [2992]
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Was wondering why Ryan L. and Tristan Leigh
Jun 16, 2022, 3:30 PM
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Were not mentioned as possible additions to make a play for playing time on the OL. Tristan was a 5* and a big get. Two years in the system, you would think he should be ready to make a push. Our last two 5* OL either started immediately or at least showed that they were on verge of pushing for playing time. Hopefully these guys step up.
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Athletic Dir [1101]
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Re: Ryan Linthicum?
Jun 16, 2022, 9:56 PM
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It sounds like Putnam has the center job largely wrapped up. Then moving him there says to me Linthicum isn’t ready.
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Paw Warrior [4790]
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Re: Ryan Linthicum?
Jun 16, 2022, 11:37 PM
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Thanks for the reply. It's about what I expected. He may have suffered from a bit of the Brian Bresee hype.
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Commissioner [1262]
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 16, 2022, 11:39 PM
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Jeff Bostic had some comments about the OL play and strategy after years of hearing nothing from him. Is he taking some official position with Clemson? Do we know if Coach Austen is conferring with Bostic? It seems to me that Bostic's voice needs to be heeded. We have the talent in the OL. If the OL is great this year, Clemson's offense will be great. The talent is there all over the board, including the OL, but we need to be more productive.
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Athletic Dir [1156]
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 17, 2022, 2:15 AM
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Well, there are many answers but the one thing you saw in the span of years you mentioned was the one year between DW#4 and TL#16 and what happened that year. Assuming our offense is more or less the same we have to have a leader and go-to play-maker QB to be successful.
We can pick pieces that were better or worse in one year or the other that span but that is the real difference. In his freshman year DJ#5 was 1-1 and a turnover machine (1 pick 6 or near pick 6 in each of his 2 games) and I believe had one in each of our three losses (don't remember NCSU but certainly had one against UGA and against Pit) last year so no surprise there. One of the two QB's has to take care of the ball and then the other things you mention have to happen - BETTER OL play, receivers deciding to block someone, run the right routes and catch the ball, the slot show some life along with the tight ends. We also need a pass-catching option out of the backfield as ETN repeatedly bailed us out with this in his last year.
Other than that we are fine....
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Freshman [-98]
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Re: TNET: How fixable is Clemson’s offense?
Jun 22, 2022, 7:22 PM
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I have not seen a generational talent at any offensive position.
Clemson has 0% fixability unless major changes occur on offense.
QB - Klubnik
RB - Mafah
WR1 - Mike Williams
WR2 - Decari Collins
Slot - Beaux Collins.
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