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The planet has been almost total ice in the past.
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Feb 13, 2024, 9:12 AM
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It has also been iceless in the last. Both before humans came along.
We're just along for the ride.
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Yes, they're just ignoring it. Global warming is a hoax!***
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Feb 13, 2024, 9:14 AM
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Re: Yes, they're just ignoring it. Global warming is a hoax!***
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Feb 13, 2024, 9:37 AM
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Do you even have a clue?
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Of course I do, you seem to waver on the fence.***
Feb 13, 2024, 10:02 AM
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How is that relevant to what I said?***
Feb 13, 2024, 10:02 AM
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Do you even know this?
Feb 13, 2024, 10:43 AM
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Does Antarctica contain 90% of the world's ice?
At its thickest point the ice sheet is 4,776 meters deep. It averages 2,160 meters thick, making Antarctica the highest continent. This ice is 90 percent of all the world's ice and 70 percent of all the world's fresh water.
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Re: One sample? ... doesn't sound very "science-y"
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The sheeple don't know about the Little Ice Age that was from around 1300 to 1850 AD. They'll probably claim humans caused the temperature to drop then in 1850 they changed the thermostat to warm the planet back up. They don't understand that the planet does whatever it wants and has done so for millions of years due to naturally occurring reasons. Humans did not cause the beginning or end of the Little Ice Age. The planet is warming back up likes it's done many times before with or without man.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Ice_Age
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You've definitely gone the way of Scott Adams for your bit.***
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Feb 13, 2024, 10:11 AM
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Re: You've definitely gone the way of Scott Adams for your bit.***
Feb 13, 2024, 10:13 AM
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^^^ Believes the Geico caveman discovered fire and started global warming.
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Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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Feb 13, 2024, 10:17 AM
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But no, I don't believe the Geico caveman discovered fire and started global warming. The fact that global warming has become politicized and you're buying into the wrong side of it is just a sign of how terrible our country has become. Climate change is happening, the Earth is warming faster than major biomes will be able to cope with - humans will survive, we're resilient, we'll also work to make sure our ways of life and foods we eat will sustain.
Politicize if there's anything to do to fix it all you want, but denying it's happening makes you look stupid.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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Feb 13, 2024, 10:20 AM
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Waiting for Bert to explain the sharp curve at the very bottom. Normal, right?
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
Feb 13, 2024, 10:32 AM
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Ah, Agent67...how nice to see you again. How's the bigfoot hunting going? Any more bigfoot skins for your palace? Probably won't need them due to the global warming. Welp, I gotta go...gotta go fill up my SUV. At 10MPG a tank it just doesn't last long.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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Feb 13, 2024, 10:39 AM
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As expected, Bert has no explanation for the slope of the curve that represents our lifetime. This is where he taps out and slinks away with his tail between his legs. 😆
#pwned
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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Feb 13, 2024, 12:34 PM
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It's a comic. Look at the link. Let me post it for you because you probably don't know how to figure out the link.
https: //imgs.xkcd.com/comics/earth_temperature_timeline.png
Now go back to your scheduled programming of Looney Tunes.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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Feb 13, 2024, 12:38 PM
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Please explain the drastic change in the slope of the curve that represents our lifetime versus the last 11,000 years. Got anything? Nope, we knew you didn't.
#checkmate
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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Feb 13, 2024, 4:49 PM
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You quoted a "source" from almost 20 years ago.
Nice try.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
Feb 13, 2024, 3:23 PM
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Mom - Birm get your blanky it's time for your nap
Birm - But I don't want too
Mom - If you don't nap you can't watch Paw Patrol later
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
Feb 13, 2024, 10:30 AM
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The first mistake leftists make is calling those who disagree with you "climate change deniers". I don't know a single person who denies the climate is changing. The climate has changed many, many times; Before, during and will after humans are gone. So....no chit, the climate is changing. Your claim is that the climate change is "man made global warming". That is what many disagree with. Funny how the term "man made" has dropped since it didn't suit the narrative. Also, funny that many probably wet their pants when they heard about man made global cooling in the 70's. Please quit saying that others deny the climate is changing. It's always changing over very long periods of time (relative to many generations of humans).
BTW, nice cartoon. Do you always get your info from cartoons?
https: //imgs.xkcd.com/comics/earth_temperature_timeline.png
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
Feb 13, 2024, 10:47 AM
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"I don't know a single person who denies the climate is changing." - there's literally a couple in this thread, and multiple that routinely post in Tigernet, you're really not this dense are you?
"Your claim is that the climate change is "man made global warming"." - I made no such claim, the evidence certainly appears to point that way and I'll trust the scientists who have devoted their life to studying this.
"Funny how the term "man made" has dropped since it didn't suit the narrative. Also, funny that many probably wet their pants when they heard about man made global cooling in the 70's." - It's funny you're just making #### up here.
"Please quit saying that others deny the climate is changing. It's always changing over very long periods of time (relative to many generations of humans)." - Except it's changing at a significantly more rapid pace, that's the issue here.
"BTW, nice cartoon. Do you always get your info from cartoons?" - Figured you'd comment on this. He's cited his sources, and the author of xkcd, Randall Munroe, isn't just a normal cartoonist.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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And, you probably believed all that fake info from "scientists" regarding Covid-19. Don't count on all your scientists to provide real science when they are being ostracize, coerced, threatened, fired if they don't go along with the narrative.
Welcome to your new religion. Enjoy it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIufLRpJYn
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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You still got NOTHING. Won't even attempt to address the drastic change in slope. Another "L" for you.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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Oh wow...good for you. I see you just got a promotion. Let me be the first to call you by your new official title Agent68.
p.s. I don't comment on comics. A lot of them are pretty funny though.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
Feb 13, 2024, 1:39 PM
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Kind of embarrassing you'd post a pic of you where you got the burn. Ouch!
#Agent68pwnedAgain
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That's the dog he burnt.***
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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“you probably believed all that fake info from "scientists" regarding Covid-19. Don't count on all your scientists to provide real science when they are being ostracize, coerced, threatened, fired if they don't go along with the narrative.”
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Nice playing, tried to take you seriously, but you're as good as
Feb 13, 2024, 4:46 PM
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the many on here, pathetic. Used to respect you many years ago.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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"Compared to the 1961-1990 average." What a bizarre and totally random thirty year period upon which to base this entire piece of propaganda. I'm sure it does succeed in scaring the crap out of second graders though so congrats for at least being able to fool seven year olds. No wonder they are all depressed and think they won't live to adulthood. Even this piece of garbage graph acknowledges there's been very little actual warming over the norm up until today. The really scary part is what happens over the next 100 years which is completely made up. Good job!
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I'm gonna have to see the raw data from 20,000 BC
Feb 13, 2024, 10:54 AM
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What type protozoa collected the temperature data ? Was its thermometer calibrated ?
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It's okay to admit you're too stupid to understand how scientists
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can determine global temperatures through ice cores, paleoclimatology, and tree rings.
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It's mind-numbing that every single American coastal city...
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Feb 13, 2024, 10:55 AM
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Regardless of the politics of who controls the city, acknowledges this problem and is working to prepare for it. But then we have to listen to people in landlocked Podunk claim it's a hoax because they can't see it with their own eyes and Fox told em so.
You want to debate whether or not we caused it? Sure. Go ahead. But denying that it's real is as dumb as being a flat earther.
And it isn't political.
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Not political, yet the vast majority of "cities" are run by left wing
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socialists.
They are very good at towing the company line.
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Where are they towing the line to?
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I think you're finally old enough to know what that saying actually is. Look it up real quicklike.
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Re: It's mind-numbing that every single American coastal city...
Feb 13, 2024, 11:43 AM
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Cata, I've seen you make this claim about Coastal Cities preparing for sea level rise several times now. Can you cite specific examples?
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I have designed and worked on a few coastal
Feb 13, 2024, 12:21 PM
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resiliency projects for VA Beach, Miami, Tampa, and Charleston
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Floodplain maps are being redrawn, designing to 500yr
Feb 13, 2024, 12:26 PM
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now because of 100yr because of what climate change has been doing to severe weather. Adding more freeboard height on all coastal cities too.
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Re: Charleston, 100 percent
Feb 13, 2024, 1:10 PM
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Well, it must not be TOO concerning. They just built a new port with direct interstate access and homes on the battery ain't getting any less expensive.
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I'm not sure why I need to explain...
Feb 13, 2024, 1:18 PM
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The difference between city of Charleston and the state, who controls the ports. The ports are also in Mount Pleasant and North Charleston, although Mount Pleasant is also doing similar efforts to fight the rising water.
And here:
https://www.charleston-sc.gov/904/Climate-Action-Plan
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Re: I'm not sure why I need to explain...
Feb 13, 2024, 2:47 PM
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From that article's intro:
As this report suggests, there is really little choice. Overuse of
fossil fuels has already given rise to an array of flooding, rain
bombs, wildfires, landslides, spiking heat waves, droughts,
and the threat of global food shortages. In Charleston, we
see more flooding, more extreme storms, more sea level rise.
Locally, there is much that we can do.
Because we burn too much fossil fuel, carbon dioxide (CO2)
and methane (CH4) emissions are accumulating rapidly
in the atmosphere, creating a greenhouse effect (hence,
greenhouse gases), that overly warms the earth; this in turn
has led to changes in climate patterns.
It goes on to say that Charleston is following the 'spirit' of the Paris Climate Accord, which is about all you need to know. And terms like 'overuse of fossil fuels' and 'rain bombs' frankly sound alarmist. But at least they're back to basically saying it's Global Warming causing all those hurricanes that may or may not come in the future.
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And what do you think you've proven here?***
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Re: And what do you think you've proven here?***
Feb 13, 2024, 4:34 PM
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That they're stating all those effects of global warming as fact, when evidence doesn't support it.
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But you at least acknowledge global warming/rising levels
Feb 13, 2024, 4:40 PM
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Are actually happening whether you agree with their stated cause or not, right?
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Re: But you at least acknowledge global warming/rising levels
Feb 13, 2024, 5:02 PM
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Actually, I'm not sure if there is sea level rise or not. If there is, I'd love to see some empirical evidence as opposed to computer modeling.
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Yes, the Hugh Leatherman Terminal designed by HDR, which included
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an additional 2 feet of freeboard design to prepare for rising water levels and surges. So yes, it is concerning, but us engineers are actually designing and accounting for it the best we can.
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Re: Gonna post manac's favorite graph.
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I'd be way more concerned with this real chart if I were you
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"Hey guys, I got nuttin' so lemme derail this discussion."
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RPMcMurphy would be proud. Bring up abortion next!
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