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Ring of Honor [23901]
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You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 6, 2021, 11:27 PM
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The TE apologist on TNET will blame the OL (which does suck) or they will say DJ needs to grow into the role but they will defend TE till the end.
What gives? Anyone with an eye can see that our play calling is absolutely horrid. I am sure that UC Davis has a really bad OL but why aren't they last in offense in the country?
I hope to God Dabo cleans house this offseason with our offensive staff. They can't develop anyone.
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 6, 2021, 11:28 PM
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Our line is hot garbage
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#64 was lost all night
Nov 6, 2021, 11:30 PM
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Tiger Titan [50797]
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Peppa Tiger chiming I’m in 3, 2, 1…
Nov 6, 2021, 11:30 PM
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to tell you that you’re an idiot because our coaches have won two national championships and can do no wrong.
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Re: Peppa Tiger chiming I’m in 3, 2, 1…
Nov 6, 2021, 11:46 PM
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Blindly defending regardless of results? Hmm sounds familiar
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Tiger Titan [50797]
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You don’t get it.
Nov 6, 2021, 11:57 PM
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Our basketball program is almost always fighting an uphill battle. We routinely play teams with better history, better support, and better talent. But we keep fighting and grinding. And many times, we win despite those obstacles.
Why? Good coaching.
Our basketball coaches are not perfect. But they typically overachieve. It’s easy to get behind coaches like that.
We typically have very good coaching in football too. But not this year. It’s been a huge disappointment. If you can’t see how much we have underachieved this year in football, you should pay attention more.
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Commissioner [957]
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Re: You don’t get it.
Nov 6, 2021, 11:59 PM
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Who mentioned basketball?
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Tiger Titan [50797]
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You implied it. Don’t deny it now.
Nov 7, 2021, 12:09 AM
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You’re like some of the others here who can’t take any criticism of our football program or our football coaches, so when I post something you don’t like you bring up basketball.
It’s so predictable. It’s also funny. And sad.
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Re: You implied it. Don’t deny it now.
Nov 7, 2021, 12:12 AM
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Literally posted during the game my displeasure of TE and his adjustments which is what I was implying. You’re a very sensitive man
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Dynasty Maker [3382]
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Re: You implied it. Don’t deny it now.
Nov 7, 2021, 10:15 AM
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Sorry- had to laugh at this misunderstanding and all the circumstances from posts long ago that led to the reaction by Judge.
I thought that is what you meant as well. If you are on this board regularly, you know that Judge is a big supporter of the basketball program and has defended BB. He catches grief about it all the time. Thus, I am sure this is what he totally thought you meant.
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Commissioner [957]
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Re: You implied it. Don’t deny it now.
Nov 7, 2021, 11:00 AM
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Totally understandable
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Re: You don’t get it.
Nov 7, 2021, 5:30 PM
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“We typically have very good coaching in football too. But not this year.“
So did they all just forget how to coach this year??? Or does a 3 loss season just automatically make them worse coaches than all the TNet experts?
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Re: Peppa Tiger chiming I’m in 3, 2, 1…
Nov 7, 2021, 6:32 PM
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Thing about that argument is that Malzahn is coaching a G5 school and won a national title. Chizik won a national title as well. Difference is that Elliot had not one but two generational QBs, those guys didn't. At the end of the day having these QBs that shore up the bad playcalling.
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Paw Master [16842]
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But isn't the OC responsible for the chitty Oline?
Nov 6, 2021, 11:30 PM
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Game Changer [1910]
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 6, 2021, 11:30 PM
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While everybody has been calling for DJs head I've been trying to say the problems on offense are much bigger than the QB spot. When it's just about every position on offense that's not performing, who should you look at?
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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EXACTLY!!
Nov 6, 2021, 11:33 PM
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DJ can't throw and the line (or WRs) can't block.
Did we miss on all of our 5 and 4 stars plays in every position? OR do the coaches suck at developing them and calling plays?
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Tiger Titan [50797]
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Clearly the latter.
Nov 6, 2021, 11:34 PM
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We don’t have a talent problem.
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Game Changer [1910]
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Re: EXACTLY!!
Nov 6, 2021, 11:48 PM
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I'm clearly in the minority but I haven't given up on DJ and think he proved last year he can be a great QB.
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Dynasty Maker [3382]
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Re: EXACTLY!!
Nov 7, 2021, 10:30 AM
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DJ at this point has underperformed, BUT it is in no way all his fault. The line is bad and this is very concerning for future years. Look at what happened with FSU. It all started with misses on the oline and oline coaching / evaluation.
The entire offense is to blame.
Tony is Tony. He has been a terrible play caller for years and the scheme is not much better than the high schools in the local area. The crazy talent at QB and some wideouts have saved him. A good OC would have found a way to scheme this offense to at least a top 80 offense. We may only have 1 loss with that happening.
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Re: The head coach.. always***
Nov 7, 2021, 5:39 AM
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Yep. Don’t you love the arrogance of Tnet geniuses to tell the guy who built this program to what it is today and owns 2 NCs in the last 5 years who he should hire or fire on his staff.
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 6, 2021, 11:33 PM
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Don't you realize that defenses keep doing things we didnt expect? How are we supposed to overcome that kind of handicap???
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Jan 26, 2017, 1:08 PM
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The TE apologist on TNET will blame the OL (which does suck) or they will say DJ needs to grow into the role but they will defend TE till the end.
What gives? Anyone with an eye can see that our play calling is absolutely horrid. I am sure that UC Davis has a really bad OL but why aren't they last in offense in the country?
I hope to God Dabo cleans house this offseason with our offensive staff. They can't develop anyone.
Do think TE could have been a little more imaginative on that last series but seriously did you watch the game? Offense scored 30 points is there was a weakness tonight it was on the defensive side. Made Cunningham look like Lamar Jackson. They bailed out on the goal line stand but for much of the game they looked out of position. I know you’re going to have bad outings and they have been the reason for our previous wins but tonight the offense picked up the defense until the stand.
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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Have you been watching these games?
Nov 6, 2021, 11:36 PM
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not to be mean but have you??????
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All-American [572]
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Re: Have you been watching these games?
Nov 6, 2021, 11:43 PM
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Point was only that TONIGHT the problems were on the defensive side. With our defense when we score 30 it should be an easy win
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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Problems were on both sides.
Nov 6, 2021, 11:50 PM
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We had a 70 kick return and another short field tonight.
We were about on our season average of 35% with 3 and outs.
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Re: Have you been watching these games?
Nov 7, 2021, 10:32 AM
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Agreed. This defense is top 25 but nothing to the elite level we have had in the past.
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Re: Have you been watching these games?
Nov 7, 2021, 10:39 AM
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I think it is hard to measure what our lack of offensive production has done to this defense. Having to play so much due to the three and outs and the pressure on them to win games eventually takes its toll. I think if our O was half as good as it has been in the past, the D would shine.
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Orange Blooded [2723]
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 7, 2021, 6:52 AM
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You use the the fact that we scored 30 points like it’s a great thing.
30 points against this trash team with the talent on this team is still pitiful. 3 tds all game. Pitiful. Is it an improvement? Yes. But still pitiful.
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 6, 2021, 11:33 PM
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The TE apologist on TNET will blame the OL (which does suck) or they will say DJ needs to grow into the role but they will defend TE till the end.
What gives? Anyone with an eye can see that our play calling is absolutely horrid. I am sure that UC Davis has a really bad OL but why aren't they last in offense in the country?
I hope to God Dabo cleans house this offseason with our offensive staff. They can't develop anyone.
Do think TE could have been a little more imaginative on that last series but seriously did you watch the game? Offense scored 30 points is there was a weakness tonight it was on the defensive side. Made Cunningham look like Lamar Jackson. They bailed out on the goal line stand but for much of the game they looked out of position. I know you’re going to have bad outings and they have been the reason for our previous wins but tonight the offense picked up the defense until the stand.
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Ultimate Tiger [33768]
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Clemson won.. if you cant handle that.. go root for bama***
Nov 6, 2021, 11:35 PM
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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Case in point, GeeVille
Nov 6, 2021, 11:38 PM
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can't ever make a valid point by way of intellect, logic, or observation yet he posts this garbage over and over much like Tiger Cook.
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Ultimate Tiger [33768]
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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Again, thinking too hard for you?
Nov 6, 2021, 11:44 PM
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yeah, we know it is.
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Ultimate Tiger [33768]
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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How about discuss the issues with the offense?
Nov 6, 2021, 11:48 PM
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If you disagree then why not defend your position? Or better yet, HAVE a position?
You can't because you don't. So post this crap all you want. You need to save your brain cell.
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Ultimate Tiger [33768]
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i gave you the solutions to your misery
Nov 6, 2021, 11:53 PM
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all you gotta do is click on the links
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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Debate is clearly not your strength
Nov 6, 2021, 11:54 PM
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bless your heart. Maybe go back and get your high school diploma?
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110%er [3825]
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Re: here ya go..good luck
Nov 7, 2021, 12:05 AM
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Somebody is selling fill in the blank posts!
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Legend [6933]
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Eric McClain would make good OL coach, and they make more
Nov 6, 2021, 11:37 PM
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than announcers, although he is excellent and a rising star. However, his personality and knowledge would be the answer, and I bet his salary would be twice as much, at least
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Re: Eric McClain would make good OL coach, and they make more
Nov 6, 2021, 11:53 PM
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I don't care if he is Mr Clemson. I don't want to see anybody that has spent more than 2 nights in a row in Clemson as our next coaching hire.
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Tiger Titan [50797]
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Exactly.
Nov 7, 2021, 12:06 AM
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We need fresh ideas and new eyes.
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 6, 2021, 11:37 PM
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Congrats - you started a great big circle jerk of coots ticked off because Clemson won.
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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The old COOT post
Nov 6, 2021, 11:41 PM
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about as imaginative as TE. No wonder you're here defending him.
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CU Medallion [18504]
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Re: The old COOT post
Nov 6, 2021, 11:44 PM
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The old indignant unhappy with a win poster is equally uncreative and deserves nothing better. Enjoy being sad after a win loser.
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Ultimate Tiger [33768]
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Don't come on here with the Coot Brothers Band!! :)***
Nov 7, 2021, 5:25 PM
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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Hard to be creative when the problems are the same every
Nov 6, 2021, 11:57 PM
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week.
The coot thing is hysterical though. I know it's the last resort when you can't reply with a serious retort.
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CU Medallion [18504]
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Re: Hard to be creative when the problems are the same every
Nov 7, 2021, 12:08 AM
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It’s funny. For someone that fancies themselves so intelligent you don’t seem to notice the details. Like, the post you just replied to didn’t say anything about coots. And the only post I made with that word didn’t call you one. It said your post spawned a circle jerk of coot posts. Which it did. Pro-tip: when you attract the affirmation of Judge Keller on an anti-football post you done f’d up. If you actually had anything insightful to say about our football team in would be fine: but you’re regurgitating the same tired tripe as everyone else. Dabo isn’t going anywhere and he will decide who stays and who’s goes. Your posts nor mine make one iota of difference. So enjoy the ride or GTFO. Otherwise you’re just wantonly reveling in being anti-Clemson - which is pretty cootish.
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Tiger Titan [50797]
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Your obsession with me continues.
Nov 7, 2021, 12:11 AM
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Get help.
P.S. Pointing out issues with our football team (that have been consistent in our nine games this year) doesn’t make one anti-Clemson.
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Re: Your obsession with me continues.
Nov 7, 2021, 12:14 AM
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Not for you - you’re literally anti-Clemson all the time.
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Tiger Titan [50797]
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Not even close.
Nov 7, 2021, 9:42 AM
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Bury the hate, dude.
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 6, 2021, 11:38 PM
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Take the win and be happy. Go Tigers!!!
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 6, 2021, 11:41 PM
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This offense has been a perfect storm of crap all year. I’d say 80% of the issues though are on the offensive play calling and the OL development. The rest can be tweaked and healed with time, (injuries, DJ’s lack of confidence, WR drops, etc.)
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Ring of Honor [23901]
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So as long as you win you can't critically discuss the game?
Nov 6, 2021, 11:42 PM
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ok boss.
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Re: So as long as you win you can't critically discuss the game?
Nov 6, 2021, 11:46 PM
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Why are you replying to yourself. Message boards aren’t that hard if you stop rage drunk posting.
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If you disagree with me
Nov 7, 2021, 12:02 AM
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then how about actually trying to disagree with real observation and/or deduction? I can guess why you're not.
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 7, 2021, 5:03 AM
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So we’ve played 9 games this season and you really think play calling is our biggest issue?What have you been watching? It’s always a lazy argument anyway as it’s based on hindsight results. You could have the same play called and one loses yards and the other goes for an 80 yard TD. But someone missed a block in the first one and not the other. Do you then say the 80 yard TD was a bad play call ? We are all frustrated this year, but play calling is way down the list of our issues unless you just want to blame someone to make you feel better.
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 7, 2021, 10:43 AM
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I have been watching games all my life. The play calling and game planning has been an issue for years now. Crazy QB talent overcame and covered up allot, but many of us were bringing this to light even during the championship runs.
Things like vanilla offense, our scheme is send the WR down and the the ball up Hero style, not using the middle of the field, running the WR screen when you are not quick thinking enough to call a different play, etc. have been said by myself and other posters.
Bottom line glad the Tigers won, but us winning in spite of Tony Elliott’s play calling and game planning may keep him in this position. Bottom line you have to be able get this talent to at least a top 80 offense.
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 7, 2021, 5:38 PM
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Remember it ain’t hard to call a game when you have a great qb. The sign of a good offensive coordinator is when you don’t have great players and you have good play calling to the strength you have. So far I haven’t seen it. My main proof to this theory is for Gods sake he Shipley on the outside He’s a race horse not a bull dozer. Something is wrong when we as fans see it but a 2 million guy doesn’t
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Re: You're not last in the country on offense by accident....
Nov 7, 2021, 10:44 AM
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Tony Elliot’s play design and play calling are the most unimaginative I’ve seen in college football. Granted, we’ve had week performances by the offensive line, the quarterback, and the wide receivers have been inconsistent, but if you objectively look at the plays that are being called, and the designs of the plays, they do not give this offense an opportunity to excel to any degree.
There is no imagination, no creativity; making it easy for weak defenses to shut down or offense.
The only reason this offense has excelled the last eight years is because of three outstanding quarterbacks, outstanding running backs, and incredible wide receivers. Clemson‘s offensive success is not because of Tony Elliot, it’s because of the great playmakers that were on the team.
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