|
Replies: 24
| visibility 1
|
Addict [413]
TigerPulse: 89%
Posts: 909
Joined: 10/9/11
|
Question for TigerNet golfers... points for help
Apr 23, 2012, 1:58 PM
|
|
To all knowledgeable golfers,
I am thinking about upgrading my irons. I have some 18 year old PING irons. I am a 15 Handicap with a very high swing speed. I am looking at some Titleist AP's, the new Callaway RBZ and some others. Any thoughts? If you need any more information to provide some helpful information.
Thanks for the help
|
|
|
|
 |
Legend [18133]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 22431
Joined: 9/1/99
|
If money is no object, I'd go with the Callaways.
Apr 23, 2012, 2:06 PM
|
|
Seriously awesome irons.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10460]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7014
Joined: 5/14/01
|
Re: Question for TigerNet golfers... points for help
Apr 23, 2012, 2:09 PM
|
|
The Mizuno JPX 800-Pro is a club you should check out. It's Mizuno's most forgiving forged club.
Golf Digest published their "Hot List" equipment issue a couple of months ago that rates clubs. Frankly, I don't agree with their rankings much of the time, but there's a lot of information there.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Amateur [31]
TigerPulse: 98%
Posts: 57
Joined: 10/9/11
|
Re: Question for TigerNet golfers... points for help
Apr 23, 2012, 2:12 PM
|
|
Go get fitted!!! It isn't that expensive and you won't start having doubts about your irons if you play a bad round or two. I went and got fitted when I got a new driver last fall, it helps you not start doubting your clubs when you lose your swing for a few rounds.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3431]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3140
Joined: 9/7/02
|
What is your objective?
Apr 23, 2012, 2:15 PM
|
|
Reducing your handicap or getting a new toy!
Lessons and more practice are what you need to reduce your handicap. New irons will not make much difference if you aren't practicing or have a flawed swing.
A new toy get what makes you feel good.
Not trying to be a smart aleck, but have seen way too many people spend way too much money on equipment they don't use often or correctly.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Addict [413]
TigerPulse: 89%
Posts: 909
Joined: 10/9/11
|
Re: What is your objective?
Apr 23, 2012, 2:24 PM
|
|
I understand, and I play regularly and practice regularly with a scratch golfer who helps me out. Mine are just starting to get a little dated, also I really need some clubs that are extended with my height which mine aren't. Just a good excuse to get some more, also mine are blades and are very unforgiving, cavity backs would help me a lot.
|
|
|
|
|
|
MVP [548]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 970
Joined: 2/3/11
|
Re: What is your objective?
Apr 23, 2012, 2:32 PM
|
|
Ugh, if you are playing blades, you're gonna love some game improvement irons.
I'm thinking about getting some Ping G20s (Super Game Improvement).
|
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [18133]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 22431
Joined: 9/1/99
|
yes and no
Apr 23, 2012, 2:35 PM
[ in reply to What is your objective? ] |
|
18-year-old clubs are probably giving up 10-15 yards per iron compared to the newest technology. Lessons never hurt, but the new clubs will definitely make a difference.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Addict [413]
TigerPulse: 89%
Posts: 909
Joined: 10/9/11
|
Re: yes and no
Apr 23, 2012, 2:42 PM
|
|
Distance is not an issue. It actually hurts me a lot. These things are so inconsistent though being blades, anything off of the sweet spot fluctuates the difference. Every once in a while I catch it just right and it actually screws me over. I more want the consistency with the cavity backs
|
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1053]
TigerPulse: 98%
Posts: 1741
Joined: 5/28/06
|
Re: yes and no
Apr 23, 2012, 2:50 PM
|
|
You'll probably pick up some distance just on shaft extensions, alone. Not to mention the better technology of the newer clubs.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Recruit [85]
TigerPulse: 41%
Posts: 68
Joined: 10/26/06
|
Re: yes and no
Apr 23, 2012, 3:53 PM
[ in reply to yes and no ] |
|
They don't give up yardage due to technology. The manufacturers decreased the lofts and lengthened the shafts so today's modern 7 iron is yesterdays 6 iron. You'll also see a larger decrease as you move away from blades to game improvement
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [26326]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 15325
Joined: 1/12/00
|
To be honest, the right shafts are going to be more
Apr 23, 2012, 2:30 PM
|
|
important than the face. I am assuming you like and are comfortable with the cavity back Pings. If you are a pretty good ball striker you could check out a forged blade.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Addict [413]
TigerPulse: 89%
Posts: 909
Joined: 10/9/11
|
Re: To be honest, the right shafts are going to be more
Apr 23, 2012, 2:43 PM
|
|
I use XS shafts, I got fitted for a driver a couple of years ago and got ball flight and swing speed measurements done. Didn't do irons though unfortunately.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Virtuoso [636]
TigerPulse: 72%
Posts: 254
Joined: 3/29/12
|
I wouldn't consider a 15 hdcp being a good ballstricker.
Apr 23, 2012, 5:27 PM
[ in reply to To be honest, the right shafts are going to be more ] |
|
he needs to get what will help him. The only people who should really be hitting a blade are single digit hdcps and better. There is no shame in getting a club that HELPS. There are plenty of tour players who will even opt for more help... like a Titleist AP2..
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rookie [18]
TigerPulse: 95%
Posts: 16
Joined: 4/12/12
|
Re: Question for TigerNet golfers... points for help
Apr 23, 2012, 2:34 PM
|
|
I went through this same exercise about a year ago, and was deciding between all of the major players (Titleist, Mizuno, Callaway, Taylormade). I am currently a 6-7 handicap, and I decide on Mizuno MP-63 (Forged Cavity Back). Before I made my new purchase, I was playing a true forged blade. But since my handicap has crept up a bit, and I am no longer able to play as often as I used to play, I decided to go with a little more forgiveness, but they still have the same workability.
I would highly recommend Mizuno. IMO they make the best irons in golf. Everyone’s description of hitting them is true “a solid buttery feel” which is amazing. For you, since you are a 15 and probably looking for a little more forgiveness, maybe look at the Mizuno MP-53 (more playability) or the JPX-800 (more forgiveness). Since you have a high swing speed, I would assume you have a rather high launch angle so the 53 would probably work pretty well since it will give you a nice trajectory. Hope this helps!
Also, If you are looking for woods, I would recommend Nike. I used to be a strictly Titleist guy when it came to woods/drivers, and would never ever consider Nike (other than apparel), but just a few months ago I decided to try the Nike VR-Pro. Honestly, it is the best driver I have ever hit. I can’t believe how long and forgiving it is, and I am now a believer in Nike as an equipment provider. My next buy might be a Nike 3-wood.
Right now, my bag consists of Mizuno Irons, Vokey wedges, Titleist woods, Nike driver, and Scotty putter.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10460]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7014
Joined: 5/14/01
|
Re: Question for TigerNet golfers... points for help
Apr 23, 2012, 3:19 PM
|
|
If you're referring to the new Nike VR_S series of woods, the driver is fine, but I'd recommend you not get the 3 wood unless you only play in dry conditions. If you look at the face of the 3 wood, you'll see that there are hardly any grooves at all, and you'll hit a lot of funky shots when water gets between the face and ball. The new Adams Super XTD fairway woods (and hybrids as well) are getting rave review and are now backorderd for at least two months. They are pricey, but they are great clubs.
I do agree that Nike is making better equipment than they have ever made.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Rookie [18]
TigerPulse: 95%
Posts: 16
Joined: 4/12/12
|
Re: Question for TigerNet golfers... points for help
Apr 23, 2012, 3:57 PM
|
|
Thanks for the suggestion. I was actually thinking about the VR-Pro, just like the driver I recently got (I did not like the shape of the VR-S). Do you know if the VR-Pro has a similar groove profile as the VR-S?
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10460]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7014
Joined: 5/14/01
|
Re: Question for TigerNet golfers... points for help
Apr 24, 2012, 6:49 AM
|
|
I don't remember about the Pro. I do know that the VR Pro Limited Edition has grooves on the three wood.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Enthusiast [110]
TigerPulse: 87%
Posts: 121
Joined: 12/3/09
|
My suggestions are
Apr 23, 2012, 2:44 PM
|
|
1) make sure your new clubs are fitted for you. You will be shocked at how much better you strike the ball from that alone.
2) go to demo days in your area/try tons of different kinds. Take your "finalists" out and play a round or 2 with a demo set. You will learn more about your likes and dislikes I live and die by the golf digest hot list most of the time but I don't count the ratings for "technology" or "demand" very much in my shopping research
3) just between getting fitted, the new technology, and the fact that you hit blades now your scores will drop 3-5 strokes a round no matter what clubs you choose so don't just fixate on the first one you try. Your mind will be blown.
Trying new clubs is one of my favorite things to do so take your time and, again, try a lot of clubs. Because you hit blades now I bet you could handle those Callaway RAZR Xs.
Good luck and don't forget to have your scratch friend be a resource to you. I'm jealous...I wish I was shopping for a new set.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Enthusiast [110]
TigerPulse: 87%
Posts: 121
Joined: 12/3/09
|
specifically for clubs
Apr 23, 2012, 2:52 PM
|
|
I see others advocating for mizuno and I agree. If distance is not a problem for you (its not for me either) mizunos are a solid choice. I got my current set of Taylormade R7 TPs when I was in high school about 6 years ago when i thought hitting the ball far was priority #1 but, in hind sight, it was a dumb decisiona because I hit the ball far anyway. I look back and wish I had gotten the mizunos and now I'm stuck with this set for the forseeable future.
Good luck
|
|
|
|
|
|
Addict [413]
TigerPulse: 89%
Posts: 909
Joined: 10/9/11
|
Re: specifically for clubs
Apr 23, 2012, 2:54 PM
|
|
Gotcha, thanks. Definitely going to hit some of those.
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10567]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7143
Joined: 11/11/02
|
Start with custom shaft fitting first..
Apr 23, 2012, 3:00 PM
|
|
Find a place that has a computer monitor and get your shafts fitted first. Number one mistake of amateur golfers is playing the wrong shaft. From there the "fitter" will be able to recommend what types of heads will work with both shaft that is right and money you want to spend. Some places charge a fee for a "fitting" but credit it against the purchase if you buy from them.
You will also get some additional information that you may find useful as far as correct ball to use and assurance if you order through them the lofts of the clubs are accurate. Suffice it to say, most arent when bought from a discount seller.
If you play alot, take a peak at rifle shafts. the frequency they will determine off the monitor.
Good luck. Go low , double the bet on the back and keep firing at the pins!
|
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3821]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4418
Joined: 1/27/03
|
I've been playing pings since 1987
Apr 23, 2012, 4:24 PM
|
|
Eye2 then ISI now the I-10s.
About 3-4 years ago when I purchased the i-10s I was looking to try something other than pings. Not that I was disatisfied but just a change. I have a friend who works at one of the PGA Superstores & spent a day hitting different clubs. As much as I wanted something else I just flat out hit the pings better....much better.
The Calloways are nice but if you like your current pings stick with Ping.
BTW I still use the original 5-wood (actual wood) that came with my original ping clubs in 1987.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Virtuoso [636]
TigerPulse: 72%
Posts: 254
Joined: 3/29/12
|
Get whatever you will feel comfortable standing over...
Apr 23, 2012, 5:21 PM
|
|
a lot about golf is confidence. But, you also want irons that will help your game, not hurt it. All the major brands are making great stuff these days, and the new technology will definitely help. BUT, you HAVE TO GET FITTED for new clubs. Bottom line.
|
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6238]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7617
Joined: 11/21/99
|
Mizuno MP. Don't waste money on anything else ***
Apr 23, 2012, 6:56 PM
|
|
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 24
| visibility 1
|
|
|
50
