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CU Guru [1551]
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Honest opinions on Streeter
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Jan 3, 2023, 9:41 PM
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I trust Dabo and I’m no one to evaluate anytbing. Just curious peoples honest opinions on streeter. What will be the thought if DJ U goes to Oregon St and looks light years better than anytime at Clemson? Does streeter just need more time to get more seasoned?
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He is in way over his head and didn’t deserve the promotion
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Jan 3, 2023, 9:47 PM
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to OC. Our offense and player development under him has been abysmal.
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Tiger Titan [50790]
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Precisely this.***
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Jan 3, 2023, 9:55 PM
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CU Guru [1501]
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How would we possibly know? We played nearly two
Jan 3, 2023, 10:40 PM
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seasons with a QB who peaked out then fell apart this year, and then we inserted Cade for two whole games, which were both strong offensive showings. To me it looks like Cade will take off under Streeter, but we've only had 2 games with a new offense. What makes you think you know how this will pan out?
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National Champion [7624]
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If the QB ain’t working, use your stud RBs. This isn’t
Jan 3, 2023, 10:48 PM
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rocket science. Streeter has no clue.
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CU Guru [1501]
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We did. Running the ball has been our strength for 2 years and
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Jan 3, 2023, 11:00 PM
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it's the only offensive reason we've won 21 games in 2 years with two top 14 finishes.
Enter Streeter. DJ was vastly improved before he lost his head again. Nonetheless Streeter has coached one season and every single offensive measurable improved.
In any case, to your point running the ball was by far our strongest asset the last two seasons, and even considering that we don't have an OL that allows us to line up and just push it down 8-man fronts. Sometimes you must find a way to pass, and for the most part we did (the coots don't equal a whole season.
I know we all want to win national championships every year, but that's not the way it works in real life. We did great considering the painful handicap we had at QB1. No way to we win 10 games and 11 games without great scheming to do, and in reality Streeter's had two whole games where he could begin to build a more explosive offense.
I'll say it again - anyone pretending Streeter's M.O. after two games cant possibly have a clue.
Relax man. It's coming. Cade and Streeter will light it up next year.
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Trainer [36]
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Re: We did. Running the ball has been our strength for 2 years and
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Jan 4, 2023, 4:12 AM
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I am definitely more in line with you I see the gap being from the lack of speed. I mean if you look at what got us the natty and see what we are lacking now. It’s wide receiver explosiveness and qb play. But in Cades defense it’s tough trying to be Trevor or deshaun your freshman year. He works hard and next year and hope for the best.
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CU Medallion [18202]
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He couldn't figure out UT's "blitz package"...If we went
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Jan 3, 2023, 11:35 PM
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empty they brought the LB or S straight up the middle...Even a moron like Tess could dissect it before the snap...Not running Ship enough in the 2nd half vs Mouth Carolina and not getting him enough touches in the first half of the OB are also pretty hard to ignore
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CU Guru [1501]
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Come on man.. it wasn't the playcalling
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Jan 4, 2023, 12:40 AM
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that was letting the defense through from several angles and not just blitzes. The Tennessee front 7 played much faster than our front, and we STILL had 500 yards. I don't like it, but sometimes that's the way it goes. You have to also look at Cade's habit of running 20-30 yards backwards at the first sign of pressure. He caused a lot of the "pressures" the stats showed. He'll develop more though, and learn to step up and buy time, before just taking off. He was running backwards or taking off right away. He did throw some dimes too, and he'll get more comfortable.
Reagrdless Streeter has done much better with Cade. We all know we beat the coots if Cade played, but it makes sense why he didnt.
Have you checked our statistical improvements on offense this year, even before Cade?
So we really have 2 games. Both were more dynamic, improved-offense games to begin to have a better understanding of where this could go.
Future looks good to me man. I'm trying to figure out what some you dudes are sweating it so hard about.
I'll give you the running game against the coots, but then again we were still a fumble and 20 yards from a game winning kick. But that coot game doesn't define Streeter and Cade anyway, does it?
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National Champion [7624]
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Re: Come on man.. it wasn't the playcalling
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Jan 4, 2023, 9:13 AM
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You don't think CK running backwards was after he got drilled right up the middle a few times? Streeter didn't really do much to slow the rush down - he continued to motion the RB out of the backfield.
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Ring of Honor [23856]
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Isn't Streeter the QB coach too?
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Jan 4, 2023, 8:30 AM
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DJ seemed to improve going outside the program for training during the off-season, only to come back and progressively worsen as the year began.
Cade had a whole practice season and didn't even know how to stay in the pocket in the bowl game.
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Re: He is in way over his head and didn’t deserve the promotion
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Jan 4, 2023, 7:43 AM
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Streeter is NOT a OC!!! PERIOD!!!..... We need a OC at Clemson!!! PERIOD!!!! If we can get a OC, get dialed in, in the secondary, and play MEAN on the OL, we have the talent to be special in 2023. GO TIGERS!!!
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
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Jan 3, 2023, 9:47 PM
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I will be more concerned about how Cade develops under Streeter than anything that happens with DJ. That will be the true test...
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CU Medallion [20990]
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That's a great take. Right or wrong, I can't help but...
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Jan 3, 2023, 9:56 PM
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...think Streeter was handicapped a bit by DJ's struggles. He just didn't fit our offensive scheme well. We need a mobile QB to make it work. We can argue all day about did Streeter run it enough, did he pass it enough, did he call plays to make DJ successful. If Cade fails to mature, or even goes backwards, that will be the verdict on Streeter in my opinion. 2023 will be his audition for keeping his job.
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Tiger Titan [50790]
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Again, why did we recruit DJ if he was such a bad fit for our offense?
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Jan 3, 2023, 9:58 PM
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It makes no sense.
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Ring of Honor [22746]
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Re: Again, why did we recruit DJ if he was such a bad fit for our offense?
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Jan 3, 2023, 10:03 PM
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They bought the eye candy and thought they could make him fit our scheme and it just didn't work. To be fair, he was the #1 or #2 rated QB out of HS, beat Bryce Young's team for the CA State Championship, and seemed like a can't miss recruit. Everyone else wanted him and had the same opinion.
Sometimes the surest of things surprise you the most...
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Re: Again, why did we recruit DJ if he was such a bad fit for our offense?
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Jan 4, 2023, 8:04 AM
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DJ should have been benched after the Syracuse game.....I hope the best for the young man, but truthfully, I'm super excited that Cade Klubnik will be leading our Tigers next season. DJ has SEVERE accuracy issues. DJ CAN Not read pre or post snap defensive alignments. Cade Klubnik is the EXACT opposite of DJ.
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What does that have to do with this football discussion?***
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Jan 3, 2023, 10:41 PM
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CU Guru [1501]
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It's a much more valid question for sure.
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Jan 3, 2023, 11:02 PM
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You should answer that before ever trying to drag football down to basketballs level.
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CU Medallion [20990]
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He was a 5* recruit playing against high-level HS...
Jan 3, 2023, 10:11 PM
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...talent. Could sling the ball anywhere, but was not an elite runner. Didn't have to be. Everybody recruited him. No one saw this coming. But his slow feet got bigger and heavier as he matured, and his confidence took a hit. I have no other explanation.
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Re: He was a 5* recruit playing against high-level HS...
Jan 3, 2023, 10:14 PM
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The confidence thing is the real mystery. I don't know if it was his parent's divorce that caused his lack of confidence or just the heavy expectations put on him. I'd love to know the story behind the scenes on that one.
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CU Guru [1501]
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You mean this season, when DJ was vastly improved?***
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Jan 3, 2023, 11:16 PM
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CU Guru [1501]
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His high school video didn't show a misfit.
Jan 3, 2023, 10:46 PM
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Plus Streeter is not running Elliott's offense either, so what offense are you referring to?
DJs skillset fell off, and it didnt translate to the college It doesn't translate well to college speed. He was what he was, and no coaching will change that. We actually did well to win 21 games in two years while being so woefully handcuffed on offense. Plus sometimes players just dont work out. It happens. Based on all the dozens of basketball misfits over the last 12 years you should know this.
Seems maybe you're not seeing this correctly?
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Re: Again, why did we recruit DJ if he was such a bad fit for our offense?
Jan 3, 2023, 11:46 PM
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Open up a pipeline to Cali where you won't have to compete with the SEC as much. It was an abject failure considering most the Cali boys didn't pan out. DJ was a 5 star pro style QB. Go back and watch his highlights he's mostly just throwing streaks to guys that we're A) bigger or B) running by the db. His measurable and record were impressive. You never know what going on between their ears though. One thing I didn't see much of in even his highlights was him using his eyes or throwing to guys with anticipation. His biggest games at Clemson the dbs were letting the wrs lose at the los and he can lazer a seam streak in pretty well or a fade. The main 2 routes he was really asked to throw in high-school in live games I'd wager. Camps and practice are not a good indicator of talent for a QB imo.
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CU Guru [1501]
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The entire program was handicapped by that.
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Jan 3, 2023, 10:49 PM
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Makes no sense to blame Brandon Streeter when he essentially worked miracles to get us to two straight top 14 finishes with that crippling offensive issue.
It's plain as day. I don't understand why some people just have to find someone to fire.
In actuality the basketball coach needs to go before we even think about firing the OC. Brad had 12 years, and Brandon had 2 games.
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National Champion [7624]
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TL was probably just as good as freshman as he was when he
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Jan 3, 2023, 10:51 PM
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Clemson or better. Several things indicate this being the case. Dilfer’s comments and the fact that Pederson had to rebuild him this off-season. .
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CU Guru [1501]
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Come on man, you're buying that dilfer crap?
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Jan 3, 2023, 11:14 PM
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A number 1 draft pick and another top 10 were ruined? That makes absolutely no sense at all. And Pederson didn't change anything about Trevor's game. He simply put a much better offense behind TL, and it's quite clear he's getting more comfortable in the NFL game.
Enter DJ. He was HORRIBLE LAST YEAR. Streeter developed him into a much, much better QB. He actually did polish that turd so to speak.
So we have Cole Stoudt, who turned it around in 4 weeks when Streeter's teaching (and being away from Morris) led him to a dominant win and MVP over Oklahoma, #1 overall pick, a #10 pick, both who are the same functionally great QBs they were at Clemson, and another QB who was vastly improved in one year. Plus did you actually watch Trevor and Deshaun play? How can anyone in their right mind say they got worse man?! Did you see Deshaun lead us to a national championship in his final year? Or Trevor's record season in his final year? Come on man. Use your head.
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Dynasty Maker [3150]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
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Jan 3, 2023, 9:49 PM
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My opinion is that Streeter is another one of Dabo's Yes Men and a member of the friends and family plan that is our coaching staff. If his degree wasn't from Clemson he wouldn't be here.
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 3, 2023, 9:49 PM
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If you want honesty its not really Streeter to blame.
We got a WR talent problem.
Best guess is Jeff Scott is coming back and Grisham goes out the door.
Then we recruit the horses again and have the ability to stretch the field at will!!!
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Why would Jeff Scott come back as a WR coach?
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Jan 3, 2023, 9:57 PM
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He was just a head coach, and before that he was our offensive coordinator.
You really think he would come be a position coach, under a guy who was his QB coach when he was our OC?
I don’t think so.
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110%er [3931]
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Why not... head coaches go back to Bama as 'analysts'
Jan 3, 2023, 9:59 PM
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all the time.
It's a paycheck and keeps them close the sport so they are more likely to get hired again.
I mean, I don't think JS is the answer to all our woes and quite frankly want someone completely unrelated to come in... but it's not unthinkable.
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CU Guru [1501]
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Come on man, "all of our woes"?
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Jan 3, 2023, 11:28 PM
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We're not a playoff team, but we're far from woeful either.
In two games I saw a vastly improved offense including receivers who got better by virtue of a guy who can get them the ball.
Two top 14 finishes aren't where we want to be, but it's not woeful by any stretch of the imagination.
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Re: Why would Jeff Scott come back as a WR coach?
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Jan 3, 2023, 10:20 PM
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I have to believe the HC job took a lot out of him and I also believe no one is knocking his door down with offers, especially when a young guy like that says he needs a year away from the grind. If he wanted to ease his way back into it at a place where he is wanted and doesn't have all of the pressure on him as a HC, I could see him being willing to join Dabo's staff for another stint. I have to believe there is a lot of trust in Dabo and right now, he probably needs someone who still believes in him.
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Clemson Conqueror [11405]
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As I recall, he was co-OC!***
Jan 4, 2023, 8:11 AM
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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Doesn’t deserve to be our OC and never should’ve been promoted.
Jan 3, 2023, 9:51 PM
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Same can be said for a few other coaches as well.
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CU Guru [1501]
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How do you figure that?
Jan 3, 2023, 11:24 PM
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You've seen Streeter coach two games with a decent QB, and they were both outstanding offensive showings.
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
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Jan 3, 2023, 9:53 PM
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I think it's impossible to tell, just too many variables right now.
1) Could be that DJ was an issue and you don't change what you're doing on offense in the last game or two of the year when Cade comes in, so we kind of still were who we were at the end of this year
2) Could be that he's having the scheme etc... dictated to him, so he's a bit hamstrung on what he can call and it's not his fault
3) Could be talent falloff at critical positions limiting what we can execute on the field
4) Could be inexperience at playcalling at this level on Streeter's part
5) Could be overall inability to develop players by a relatively new and inexperienced staff that will need to sort of settle in
All that being said; the staff on that side IS inexperienced as a whole, so that can't really be helping whichever one or combination of the above it is.
I really think hiring from within was a mistake after last year, not anything specific against Streeter, but I think we needed some outside viewpoints and new blood. Our scheme seems stale and defenses know how to defend it now.
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CU Guru [1501]
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I don't think we know "the scheme" yet.
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Jan 4, 2023, 12:19 AM
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We've only seen 2 games... with a green true frosh qb, who instantly elevated us, and no doubt has shown a boatload of potential. This Streeter / Cade deal WILL lift up the program. We already saw that.
It seems like some guys are confusing all of the past 27 games with the last 2. We don't really know our essentially new "scheme" other than it's much better. Right?
We have some good pieces coming back and some elite kids coming in.
I'm okay to chill out on firing people right now.
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Game Day Hero [4202]
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Streeter succeeded at every level
Jan 3, 2023, 10:00 PM
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before being the OC. Dabo felt he deserved promotion. Did he succeed as the OC this year? I think the offense improved and that he probably met most of the objectives Dabo set for him this year.
For those of you unfamiliar with management, a good manager sets realistic objectives for each of his subordinates (if your manager doesn't better look for a new job). Those objectives should be difficult, but obtainable. Streeter may have met his individual objectives (maybe not) and the team not met theirs. The inverse is also possible, but the team obviously missed 2 objectives. Since he was dual hatted, QB coach and OC he may not have met all of the objectives of both jobs. If the objectives were set properly he almost assuredly did not meet all of them, as some of them would have been based on team success.
Not knowing what the objectives were I won't comment on his performance beyond this.
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 3, 2023, 10:33 PM
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I defended Streeter for much of the year thinking his playcalling was hamstrung by DJs limitations (and I believe it was to some extent) but the multiple times of abandoning the run game when it was working, especially in the SCAR game and then in the OB as well as continuing to split the RB out wide instead of keeping him in to help block when our OL was not getting it done tells me that he is in over his head, much like his DC counterpart
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While I wish DJ the best, that will not be a good look on
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Jan 3, 2023, 10:34 PM
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Streeter. Cade knows what good qb coaching is. His high school coach trained Brees, and a bunch of others they listed on Orange Bowl broadcast. Cade should know if he feels the qb coach is lacking. As an offensive coordinator, the Orange Bowl was not good. Not being able to score in key situations. Also, our offensive line does him no favors.
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 3, 2023, 10:36 PM
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I’m more concerned about his ability to develop QBs than I am about his ability to call plays.
I think he’s a decent OC. I think he’s a below average QB coach.
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I think Streeter did great once he had a QB.
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Jan 3, 2023, 10:41 PM
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Are you really saying he can't call plays based on the fiasco that was DJ Uiagalelei? I thought he did as well as could be expected when the offense was so handcuffed.
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He should go learn the job elsewhere
Jan 3, 2023, 10:47 PM
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And take CJ and Grish with him.
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That's not happening and it shouldn't.
Jan 3, 2023, 11:30 PM
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But maybe you'd be better off trying to be a "fan" of some other program. You know, that program who wins national championships every year. Maybe you can tell me who that is.
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Re: That's not happening and it shouldn't.
Jan 3, 2023, 11:46 PM
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Nobody's asking for a natty every year but we should be competitive in every game we play win or lose. You ok with 8-4 man. That's where we are headed with this staff and the recruiting is starting to fall as well.
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 3, 2023, 10:48 PM
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I trust Dabo and I’m no one to evaluate anytbing. Just curious peoples honest opinions on streeter. What will be the thought if DJ U goes to Oregon St and looks light years better than anytime at Clemson? Does streeter just need more time to get more seasoned?
Fair question that I will answer with an honest opinion.
Streeter was 2021 QB coach when DJU was extremely disappointing - underdeveloped - something that could be assigned to Streeter.
When Tony E. left for the UVA HC job, Streeter was promoted, and there had to be a reason (other than nepotism). I assume that he was given the promotion because of the guys he recruited or who were coming because they connected with him - primarily Cade and Christopher.
I don't put all of DJU's failings on Streeter. Clearly, DJU has physical talent (size, strong arm) and leadership qualities, but basically nothing else. I can't imagine him suddenly looking like a future NFL QB in Corvallis.
But Dabo needs to take a long, hard look at whether Streeter has the capacity to be a major college OC. And I am afraid if that tough decision is not made until next year, it may be too late.
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CU Guru [1501]
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Sorry dude but DJ was not "underdeveloped"
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Jan 3, 2023, 11:33 PM
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He is what he is. Period.
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 3, 2023, 10:55 PM
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Look up Skreeters stats as a QB at Clemson. This is the world of a 3 star QB (and I’m being generous with the 3 star rating) so how in the H E double hockey sticks can a 3 star teach ANYTHING to a 5 star? He can’t, he’s incapable of higher level thinking and game planning.
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Clemson Conqueror [11405]
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You actually think a coach's athletic ability determines
Jan 4, 2023, 8:25 AM
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how good of a coach he will be? That's about as dumb a take I have ever heard!
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Clemson Conqueror [11758]
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Re: You actually think a coach's athletic ability determines
Jan 4, 2023, 8:31 AM
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His head is going to explode when he looks at our DC...
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Orange Immortal [65700]
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Our offense was measurably better this year under
Jan 3, 2023, 11:41 PM
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Streeter than it was last year under Elliott. But, it was dramatically better under Elliott the year before that (2020). The most obvious difference was that in 2020, the last time we had a truly elite offense (#10 in yds per game, #3 in pts per game), we also had 1st overall draft pick in Trevor Lawrence, 1st rounder Travis Etienne, and NFL WRs Rodgers and Powell.
I could go back and list numerous instances of poor playcalling and bad offensive gameplans and poor in-game adjustments, but the drop off in talent since 2020 is undeniable, and the offense under Streeter this year was better than the year before under Elliott. So, even though I'd love to see us with a proven, successful OC, I can't say with confidence that our offensive problems are primarily the fault of our OC.
I truly believe that if we had Trevor and Tee Higgins and Amari Rodgers this year, and throw in ETN and maybe Matt Bockhorst and Jackson Carman, I'm pretty sure we'd have had a top 15-20 offense, and there would be very little complaining about it. I'm not sold on Streeter by any means, but I think it's too early to kick him to the curb. Lets see how our offense develops with Cade at the helm and Vizzina coming in, and how our recruiting at WR and RB goes, then make a judgement.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102961]
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Streeter's been in training by one of the best HCs of...
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Jan 3, 2023, 11:55 PM
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all time. He did a fine job dumbing down the playbook to fit DJ's low caliper ability. That was evident by DJ's increased stats this season.
Imo, Streeter still has a learning curve but it's about experience as a coordinator not as a coach or teacher. I'm glad we have him and look forward to seeing him do well enough next year to shut all the loudmouth knowitall's up.
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Rival Killer [2927]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
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Jan 4, 2023, 5:21 AM
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During our run in the BCS and Playoff
era we had some really exceptional talent
roll through our program. Even so , we were
often less talented as a whole than our opponents.
Yes , we consistently brought in classes
near or in the top 10. Alabama , Georgia and
others like this year landed in the top 5 mostly
1. , 2. , and 3. Ohio St. The point being that
while that was true we more than held our own
and won our fair share. It became well established
that we were the one program that stood out
as being capable of " doing more with less ".
That has obviously changed. While we are
undoubtedly more talented than our lesser
foes in the ACC and naturally the coots ,
they are going toe to toe with us and
sometimes earning an undeserved W.
This translates to " doing less with more ".
This is irrefutable and there are multiple
areas that are problematic. With all the friendships
Dabo has made over the years , it would be highly beneficial
for Dabo to get a well-known offensive minded fresh set of
eyes on our offense and diagnose the totality of damage
that has occurred in recent years and what need be done
immediately to get us back on track before September.
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Letterman [161]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 4, 2023, 7:40 AM
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Did we seem better prepared and balanced with a better gameplan with dual OC’s? Something is clearly broken in that Offense, every excuse/apology/whatever is given by the staff after we make awful showings and Streeter constantly sits there and says “Yeah, in retrospect we should have……” and says “I don’t really know why we didnt…..”
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Letterman [161]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 4, 2023, 7:40 AM
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Did we seem better prepared and balanced with a better gameplan with dual OC’s? Something is clearly broken in that Offense, every excuse/apology/whatever is given by the staff after we make awful showings and Streeter constantly sits there and says “Yeah, in retrospect we should have……” and says “I don’t really know why we didnt…..”
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Dynasty Maker [3471]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 4, 2023, 7:58 AM
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My thinking on why Dabo won't consider replacing Streeter is that if he does, and hires a big name OC from somewhere else, that big name OC will probably clean house on the offensive side and Dabo doesn't want that. I also think Dabo is sure he made the right choices and just needs more time and can outlast his critics to prove he is right. Maybe he is doing it the right way. He sure is getting a lot of criticism though.
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Heisman Winner [86236]
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Absolute Honesty? His first year as OC was completely
Jan 4, 2023, 8:33 AM
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underwhelming. But, he should be given one more, to see if there is a leap of growth in Year Two. If any of you have had long careers, you have gotten promoted from time to time. Looking back honestly, were you performing at your peak in the new job during your first year? If most of you are honest, you would say that you grew into the new job, and got a lot better at it as time went on.
Now, college coaching jobs being as public as they are, and fanbases being as volatile as they are, coaches are not afforded those same luxuries of growth on the job many times.
My only comment along actual football lines to Streeter would be:
Bring back the "Window Dressing". By that I mean the pre-snap motion, possible jet sweeps, anything that forces the defense to move its pieces and possibly give away what coverages they are in. That stuff is like free money, why not utilize it?
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Ring of Honor [23856]
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I agree! I do not think Streeter is a good OC
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Jan 4, 2023, 8:37 AM
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I mean, when he talked about Tennessee disguising blitz packages, he completely lost me.
So, I do think he is a good OC? No. Do I think he should be fired this off-season? No.
Dabo should have searched nationwide for the best OC. He didn't, so he needs to give his pick at least another year to prove himself.
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CU Medallion [20940]
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JMHO Streeter is a C-
Jan 4, 2023, 9:21 AM
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Cade Klubnik, with the play he is capable of, could save Streeter's job at OC in 2023. And no question, Dabo gave Streeter no other option than to play DJ -- a tough hand to play. But Streeter is not Kiffin, Leach, Riley, etc. He is not a guru with a proven Offensive System. He is a beginner who supported the QB room with superstars DW4 and TL16.
No doubt Streeter is a fine QB Coach who would make a fine OC candidate at UVA, Duke or Vandy. But as stated well by many in national media, incl. Mark Schlabach, Dabo was in a position to hire almost any OC in the country. Dabo made it clear that promoting and financially enriching those close to him was more important than a more proven college or NFL coaching candidate. With college coaches like Dabo now earning more than most NFL HC's, there is lots of money available with more TV money coming, and more coaches and coordinators in the future will bounce between college and the pros.
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Associate AD [1052]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 4, 2023, 9:39 AM
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No instinct
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1st Rounder [610]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 4, 2023, 9:50 AM
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The OC, running backs coach, wide receivers coach, offensive line coach in my humble opinion have underachieving job performances
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Game Changer [1840]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 4, 2023, 10:08 AM
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Honest opinion on Streeter.
If he has not been fired yet we are stuck with him. We are stuck with every coach we find to be incestuously lame as no one has been fired as a result of this season to my knowledge. So, they all have a great chance at making 4&5 star players underperform again next year which will mean fewer four and five star players will choose Clemson in the future.
Dabo Cannot rest on his Laurels. "I won a championship" is only good for a couple of years. What he is resting on is how much it will cost to get rid of him if he does not turn the program around and quick. Honestly our end of season ranking is the most gracious gift Clemson has ever gotten from those that vote.
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National Champion [7220]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 4, 2023, 10:39 AM
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In over his head. An "elite" level program does not hire "entry level" coaches.
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 4, 2023, 10:44 AM
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First things first not sure DJ is capable of thriving at an FCS school. How he was kept in as starter is baffling.
Streeter may be fine long term but definitely not efficient in calling a game that reflects his strengths and is what is working for that particular game.
Clemson should never be throwing the ball 50 plus times in a game with 2 good to great RB’s.
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Game Day Hero [4534]
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Re: Honest opinions on Streeter
Jan 4, 2023, 11:00 AM
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A couple of things from my standpoint:
My opinion is still back and forth on Streeter. his play calling started out great, he was aggressive, and somewhat creative. I liked that. Playbook opened up a bit. Here is the bad.. and it's not really on him imo. The O line play has been at beat mediocre and at times abysmal for 3+ seasons. I said back then and got booed but Trevor and a quick release made the line look a LOT better, but ETNs lack of production his last year showed a lot. That's not on Streeter. Also WR development or production has been the drizzling ?. Part of that certainly wasn't helped by having a guy who missed on two straight screen passes throwing the ball.. Just saying, we can't hate on Streeter completely when the two primary position groups supporting the QB have been historically bad. Like, close to Tommy West bad for WRs at least. Anyway, we shall see next season. If not, Humphreys will be out of the league soon so I guess he's the next hire ?
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