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Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 7, 2025, 3:38 PM
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They run out in the middle of the road and can’t figure out to just run back and not get ran over. What does this say about our world? Are we similarly as dumb in our own ways continuing to do things that eventually kill us?
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Unlike the road kill, indeciveness is not one of my problems.
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May 7, 2025, 4:12 PM
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I make a plan if God doesn't slam on the brakes I proceed throwing caution to the wind. My God isn't shy and He doesn't waste words. Yes, I've run into a few brick walls but that was assurance that God assigns angels to children and old fools.
Romans 8:28
"28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."
I've gotten to the point that I rejoice rather than whine when things don't go my way. You've no idea how much damage I might have done if not for His everlasting mercy.
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Re: Unlike the road kill, indeciveness is not one of my problems.
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May 7, 2025, 6:39 PM
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If there is a god up there does he not care about these animals that senselessly die every day? Serious question, not trying to me a smart ax.
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Not one sparrow falls to the ground without His notice.
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May 8, 2025, 5:55 AM
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God isn't driving those cars that hit animals on the roads and God didn't build the roads or design and manufacture the cars. I think maybe you're blaming God for man's actions which is horribly unjust. If you judge with equity you'd condemn mankind for eating animals and running them down on the roads.
Adam and Eve didn't eat animal flesh. Read the Book. They were given fruit of all the trees for food except that one.
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Re: Not one sparrow falls to the ground without His notice.
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May 8, 2025, 7:23 AM
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That’s a good point. Humans did invent cars, and even though people die everyday we still fly down the road in them.
Adam and Eve didn’t eat meat…why do Christians eat it then? That’s genuinely always puzzled me. If god created all these animals, why do we slaughter and eat them?
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Trick with squirrels is to keep a steady speed and course.
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May 7, 2025, 6:16 PM
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The squirrel will see you and bolt, one way or another. If you swerve, there's a 50/50 chance you swerve and the squirrel bolts the same way and.....thump.
If you stay straight and don't swerve, slam on brakes, or anything, the squirrel will almost ALWAYS get out of the way, or at least not get thumped.
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Re: Trick with squirrels is to keep a steady speed and course.
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May 7, 2025, 6:36 PM
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I always feel bad when I hit one. I wonder if everyone would think I was weird if I requested prayer after hitting one.
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I bet I hit 50+ squirrels over the years until I tried doing nothing
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May 8, 2025, 7:50 AM
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I bet I've hit MAYBE 2 in the past decade adhering to the do nothing approach.
Other day some teenager leaving the hood for school SLAMS ON BRAKES, then swerves, almost going into the ditch, to miss one of the buggers. smfh So glad I was way behind and no cars were coming the other way.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 8, 2025, 9:33 AM
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I think your questions are more on the philosophy side of this than the religion. With the squirrel I believe it would be simply a survival instinct. Do squirrels learn? We have tons of deer in our neighborhood that simply stand there and look at you. They are not skiddish in the least. They have become comfortable around humans in the neighborhood.
Humans on the other hand, with the capacity for reason, CHOOSE to do things that we know can harm us. I think it's called cognitive dissonance. We can continue to smoke and reason away any feelings that we would be the ones that get sick and die. It's not our lack of intelligence, but our heightened sense of hubris that will eventually get us.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 8, 2025, 10:35 AM
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We get into 2 tons of metal and plastic that moves forward by exploding large amounts of petroleum. We make it go fatal speeds, with nothing between it and the ground but an inch of rubber, and we cause it to miss other such vehicles moving in the opposite direction by mere inches.
Counter intuitively, this makes sense. What does not make sense is that it is considered to be an advanced technological achievement, and that when something goes catastrophically wrong someone actually says, "Why me?"
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 8, 2025, 1:05 PM
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Yes exactly what I’m getting at. I’ve often wondered why I continue to get in a vehicle knowing how easily it could kill me. I continue to eat foods that I know cause heart disease and cancer. Are we really any different than the squirrel that could just run out of the way?
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 8, 2025, 1:54 PM
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Agree. Maybe we are different only in that we are able to understand that there is something here we do not understand. God even told us to consider the animals you reference as an indicator of our lack of understanding. We are shown that ants do not plan, birds do not farm, and plants do not weave, yet they move in orderly fashion, are well fed, and look better than any of us. As you said below, there is a glitch in the system, and we have lost our understanding.
https://youtu.be/gDadfh0ZdBM?feature=shared
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 8, 2025, 6:15 PM
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We have figured out how to live longer though plus the motor vehicle has saved a lot of lives because of things like ambulances and fire trucks.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 8, 2025, 8:26 PM
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That is certainly true. Yet here we are asking these questions. Whatever you know and observe, dont forget that you perceived a 'glitch in the system'. I think you were right. A cure for cancer wont make that feeling go away.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 9, 2025, 8:54 AM
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What would a cure for cancer say about us and the glitch though? If I had to guess either way I’d say there already is a cure. Many people have defeated it anyway.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 9, 2025, 10:19 AM
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As you know, it wouldnt say anything about it, any more than the vaccine for polio or the Treaty of Versailles. Our poor little squirrel wouldnt even know it happened, as she continues to dodge cars we create and drive at her, some of us not making it back home ourselves.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 9, 2025, 2:01 PM
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All presumptions aside, why wouldn’t it? If we as humans can figure out a way to reverse the glitch?
We’ve doubled our life expectancy since the first century, who’s to say we won’t eventually figure out how to beat death from a natural standpoint?
Death by accident will always be there, but 2000 years from now where could/will we be when it comes to things like disease and cancer?
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 9, 2025, 8:01 PM
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'Life expectancy' doesn't seem to be a straightforward a number. From 1950 to 2023, life expectancy increased about 20 years worldwide. Woo hoo! At this rate, we'll soon be living to way past 100. Not so fast. Almost all that increase was from people age 15 and under: people at those ages saw life expectancy increase more than 20 years from 1950 to 2023. However, people age 80 saw an increase in life expectancy of only 3 years from 1950 to 2023 (85 in 1950, 88 in 2023, a little higher in the US). People age 65 saw only a 6 year increase. In other words, the increase in life expectancy was from addressing mostly infant mortality, and to a lesser degree disease that kills at younger ages. Once a person has made it past that, increase in life expectancy has been incremental at best.
In 73 years, even with new, heroic surgeries and treatments, the age at which a healthy person dies of old age has changed little. A better way to say it: The only thing that has changed in life expectancy in the last century is the number of people expected to live to age 65 and 80. Once there, life expectancy has remained largely unchanged. Depressing for the humanist viewpoint, I know.
So, looking for medically induced immortality to solve anyone's problems or questions seems to be a losing bet. As you said, there is a glitch in the system. What you are perceiving is the angels guarding the Tree of Life we turned our back on.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 10, 2025, 9:14 AM
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50 years is a mere blip in time. Look at how the human race has improved since ancient times. From dwelling in caves to flying around in jets. Btw its extremely rare for someone to die in a plane crash so we've made travel much safer. Gone are the days where armies run through villages and slaughter everyone without the rest of the world doing something about it. We could go on and on about how healthcare has improved.
Luckily for us people looked for ways to improve our life, or we'd have been dead a long time ago most likely.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
May 10, 2025, 10:13 AM
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All true. You noticed a glitch in the system. Let me know when the mortality rate improves.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
May 10, 2025, 3:14 PM
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No dice. Mortality rate in the US remains 100%, and the latest at which it happens isnt changing much. The life expectancy of one who has reached age 65, 70 or 80 has remained mostly flat for 100 years. A few years past 80 is the expectation, has been for 100 years, and that's if you're 80 already. (Worldwide. Is a few years better in the US, but same relationship.)
Medical science is not impressing the angels guarding the Tree. I know that's not good news for the humanist hope, but take heart: The 100% mortality rate wont hit you any harder than anyone else. The glitch you brought up gets everybody. That's why its a
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May 10, 2025, 3:59 PM
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"Medical science is not impressing the angels guarding the Tree."
Here in reality, it's because of medical science that someones loved one is still alive and breathing today.
It's because of human innovation and technology that paramedics can be at someone's side who's having a stroke or heart attack in minutes.
Jesus ain't gonna save 'em...
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
May 10, 2025, 4:48 PM
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He already has, a few. The docs obviously cant save anyone. It's your glitch and your squirrel we're talking about. You're the squirrel. We all are.
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I think the theory goes something like this . . .
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May 9, 2025, 11:03 AM
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Everything here, on earth, in this physical dimension, is by design and by choice, made in a higher dimension. While here, we don't understand for a reason, which is so that we can experience things in this realm (pain, suffering, etc.) which help us evolve and grow in the higher, spiritual dimension, and to serve a higher purpose.
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Re: I think the theory goes something like this . . .
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May 9, 2025, 11:29 AM
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Not familiar with that one.
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Re: I think the theory goes something like this . . .
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May 9, 2025, 12:12 PM
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I sure didn't learn about it in church.
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Re: I think the theory goes something like this . . .
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May 9, 2025, 2:21 PM
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Would be interesting to hear the basis for that view, not where one heard it but why it exists.
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Re: I think the theory goes something like this . . .
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I'll do my best.
All is one and one is all. God is all there is. Everything is part of God. Each of us is part of God, very much like waves are part of the ocean. We are eternal spiritual creatures who are constantly evolving. Our earthly, physical minds and bodies are not really us, but vehicles we choose to provide desired, perhaps necessary experiences as part of our spiritual growth and progression.
I don't know if there is one specific source, like a bible, that details that specific belief or theory, or if those are tenets of any particular religion. Also, I'm not saying that's exactly what I believe, as I'm still working on that, but it's probably close. It's probably easier to rule out some things and say what I don't believe.
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Re: I think the theory goes something like this . . .
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May 9, 2025, 6:00 PM
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Got it. Thanks.
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May 8, 2025, 1:01 PM
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Definitely more of a philosophical question.
It seems like there is a glitch in the system.
Squirrel runs out in the road and gets flattened by a car. There is no rhyme or reason to this.
Tornado spins up and wipes out a town. Why is this happening?
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If there is no "God/Creator/Designer" and all of this is just random stuff,
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May 9, 2025, 11:20 AM
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then there you have it.
Let's assume there is a God/Supreme Creator. Then it follows that all of this is for a reason, by design (unless creator is somehow limited such that things happen against it's will) which takes us back to your question. Why pain and suffering and infants dying in fires? To what end, and how could that possibly be fair. just, or loving?
As I see it, only if there is a greater cause which is served by all of it. I think that all depends on our concept of what God is.
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Re: If there is no "God/Creator/Designer" and all of this is just random stuff,
May 11, 2025, 11:10 AM
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That's William Lane Craig's answer to the question of how can God exists along with evil. If it's even possible that God has a moral reason for allowing evil, it answers the question, philosophically even if not emotionally.
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Re: If there is no "God/Creator/Designer" and all of this is just random stuff,
May 11, 2025, 2:39 PM
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I don't agree that there is a God on a throne in the sky who created all of this, but had to allow certain things he didn't want or like, and is involved in an eternal or ongoing struggle against them. It's a comically absurd point of view. I think it's the product of ancient minds who were doing the best they could to make sense of it all, but were relatively ignorant and limited in their understanding of the Universe, which heavily influenced their beliefs. In no way do I feel obligated to support it, nor do I believe a loving creator of all that is would expect me to.
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Re: If there is no "God/Creator/Designer" and all of this is just random stuff,
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May 11, 2025, 5:20 PM
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Well....okay. I was just offering up what Christian Apologist Craig uses as a possible philosophical explanation of God and the existence of evil.
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Re: If there is no "God/Creator/Designer" and all of this is just random stuff,
May 11, 2025, 7:59 PM
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I understand, sorry - I wasn't lashing out at you.
If God is the all-knowing, all-powerful creator, who sits on a throne in heaven, then it's indisputable that he WANTS sin and evil to be a part of all of this, even though he could accomplish absolutely anything without it. That's hard for a lot of people to accept, and they engage in all kinds of nonsense attempting to explain it or get around it, maintaining that God opposes those things and is somehow fighting against them, when he doesn't need them for anything, else he isn't all powerful as they claim since he could make all of that go away with the blink of an eye. If they are correct about their concept of him, then he literally wants sin and evil in order to serve his purpose.
I think we, as souls which are literally part of God, are here in part to experience pain and sin and evil, by choice, in order to grow and progress as part of a much bigger picture, or play a role in a much bigger, more complex plan, as opposed to souls separate from God, who are sent here, born into sin and bound to eternity in hell unless we make good on the one chance we have to properly repent.
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May 8, 2025, 8:56 PM
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Revelation 5:13
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13 And every creature which is in heaven, and on the earth, and under the earth, and such as are in the sea, and all that are in them, heard I saying, Blessing, and honour, and glory, and power, be unto him that sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb for ever and ever.
Proof that animals are smarter than atheists.
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
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May 8, 2025, 10:08 PM
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Except that squirrel I just ran over.
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Have you ever seen a squirrel go to the bathroom?
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May 9, 2025, 10:21 AM
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Not like, an actual bathroom...but take a carp or make water... ever seen that?
I don't think I ever have.
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Tree rats.***
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Re: Why are squirrels so dumb?
May 14, 2025, 7:35 AM
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Poor squirrel.
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