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CRAP


May 14, 2022, 6:22 PM

Woe is me, the sky is falling.
The subwoofer on my porch has not kicked in tonight. It is powered, but no sound.
I have excellent speakers out here, but all speakers are better with a great sub.

It is behind my adirondack chair which is bolted to the floor and hard to service.

This Polk 4000 has been out here for years. Polk no longer makes a sub on this level.



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the tug abides


switch to Klipsch and thank me later***


May 14, 2022, 6:29 PM



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Re: switch to Klipsch and thank me later***


May 14, 2022, 6:46 PM

Klipsch makes some great gear, but they have no sub on the level of this one (neither now does Polk).
I don't think this big boy is done yet. If so, I would consider Klipsch.

Polk and Klipsch make for the mass market, so you get more bang for your buck.
These days subs are made for movies and do explosions really well.

A sub for stereo music as opposed to video needs to be "very quick". That cost $$.
My take is if you can point to where the sub is in a room -- everything is off.

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the tug abides


I've got MartinLogan surround speakers paired with a big..


May 14, 2022, 8:18 PM

..honking Klipsch subwoofer in the living room and it rocks for sports and movies. Not great for just pure music though, so your point is taken. Sorry about your Polk. Hopefully you can resurrect it.

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"When I was 6 my Mother let me have a kitten. It died. Don't send prayers, a TU is better." - tugalooriver circa 2022


I have a pair of small Klipschs out in my big shop. They


May 14, 2022, 10:16 PM [ in reply to switch to Klipsch and thank me later*** ]

sound OK, but nothing really special. Probably because they are trying to fill up a 32' x 48' building with 12' high walls?

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tugaloo, is this a pic of you from back in the day?


May 14, 2022, 7:10 PM

Me thinks not but likely a close resemblance.



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--- back in the day


May 14, 2022, 7:45 PM

--- back in the day

Do you see me as no longer relevant?

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the tug abides


Re: tugaloo, is this a pic of you from back in the day?


May 14, 2022, 8:31 PM [ in reply to tugaloo, is this a pic of you from back in the day? ]

A great thing about being a audiophile with great equipment is that most likely you'll damage your hearing. Then when you get older you cannot tell the difference between good equipment and really cheap stuff.

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audiophile


May 14, 2022, 8:51 PM

I am not an audiophile, I am an audio nut.
I see no harm in seeking better sound.

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the tug abides


when you get older


May 14, 2022, 8:54 PM [ in reply to Re: tugaloo, is this a pic of you from back in the day? ]

In endless nights of endless firing artillery rounds, my ears adjusted.

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the tug abides


So, so true. My older brother had a set of the original


May 14, 2022, 10:11 PM [ in reply to Re: tugaloo, is this a pic of you from back in the day? ]

Ohm F speakers. They were the most awesome things I had ever heard. So, before long, I had me a set of them as well, powered by a Phase Linear (Carver Designed) 4000 preamp / 400 Power Amp. Needless to say, he and I both had to get hearing aids at a relatively young age.

That does in no way detract from how awesome those listening experiences were for us armature audiopiles. When your equipment is capable of bass tones you can FEEL as well as hear, WITHOUT a SUBWOOFER, AND generate great midrange and crystal highs, that is some well engineered stuff.

Today, I own a "2nd Gen" set of Ohm Fs, but it jest ain't the same. Even with a separate Infinity subwoofer and small surround sound back speakers.

Now, that setup probably does sound really good, but with my diminished hearing, even with $4500 hearing aids, I can only hear so much.

:(

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Re: CRAP


May 14, 2022, 7:44 PM

Check the circuit breaker.

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I try to save a life a day, usually it is my own.


CRAP


May 14, 2022, 7:48 PM

I may have to replace the amp, but most likely --



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the tug abides


What is that guy pulling on


May 15, 2022, 6:14 AM

his right arm looks suspiciously busy

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monter le cheval de fer
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Martin Logan or KEF may be of assistance***


May 14, 2022, 7:52 PM



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Re: CRAP


May 14, 2022, 7:57 PM

I've gotten good service out of my Hsu for the last 5 years. Full range with multiple settings for your room/taste.

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Re: CRAP


May 14, 2022, 7:58 PM

I have a dead Polk, too. Let me know what graveyard to send it to. ??

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When the apocalypse comes, I’m stealing from you


May 14, 2022, 8:38 PM

Nm

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Re: When the apocalypse comes, I’m stealing from you


May 14, 2022, 8:56 PM

Going to the houses of those with Martin Logan or Kef would be a waste of your time.

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the tug abides


My suggestion would be the Infinity PS212


May 14, 2022, 8:58 PM

Bass like you’ve never felt before, an incredible sub that’ll shake everything in sight!

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We keep getting better & better everyday, in every way!
“The only disability is a bad Attitude” Dabo Swinney!!
Let’s Go Tigers!


shake everything


May 14, 2022, 9:06 PM

This guy has played on my porch for years in cold, heat, rain, and snow.
I have a higher end sub in my RedNeck bar. Most times I prefer to play tunes on the porch.

The deal of a quality sub is not to "shake" anything. You will not notice it is there until it is not.

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the tug abides


Re: shake everything


May 14, 2022, 9:22 PM

I know what you mean but You don’t know what meant by shake. If you need it 400 watts would do it but it’s as good as it gets to being an accessory. I’ve had just about all of them & have a huge collection of speakers, subs & systems. High end JBL & Infinity subs are the best at being a blended accessory. I have a nice Klipsch sub in the living room. Polk speakers & subs are are very good too.

I sold my Paradigm 7.2 system from my bedroom and regret I did now, the sub was so awesome & smooth.

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We keep getting better & better everyday, in every way!
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Let’s Go Tigers!


Re: shake everything


May 14, 2022, 9:30 PM

You have some good gear, bet it sounds great.

This porch sub is 1200 watts.

In my RedNeck bar have 2400 Bob Carver watts going to each McIntosh speaker as that is what it takes to open them up. It aint about being loud.
It takes power appropriate to make speakers sound good at a whisper.

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the tug abides


I guess this won't come in too handy about now...


May 14, 2022, 9:06 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyswjkZJugI

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Re: I guess this won't come in too handy about now...


May 14, 2022, 9:13 PM

No. On the porch I only play music.

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the tug abides


Re: CRAP


May 14, 2022, 9:24 PM

This song sold me my sound bar.

https://youtu.be/jZ3K9E8Cvbg

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Re: CRAP


May 14, 2022, 9:33 PM

Look at QSC. They make the best speakers for playing live music. I’m sure you can get a powered 12” monitor and hook it to your system. It will sound fantastic.

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Re: SVS


May 14, 2022, 9:49 PM

I have these in my home theater and work very well.

Hope you figure it out.

Go Tigers!

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Re: CRAP


May 14, 2022, 9:59 PM

Thanks guys.
I have excellent gear, the sub is just down until I fix it.
Our friend TB just upgraded. After search and trial he got some powered speakers that please him. I bet they sound great.
The needle for my record player cost much more than that.

The deal for better audio is not one piece of gear, but the system you assemble. That takes time, trial and error.

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the tug abides


Turntable...?***


May 14, 2022, 10:12 PM



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Two of um.


May 14, 2022, 11:52 PM

And a microphone.

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checkout Definitive subwoofer


May 14, 2022, 11:29 PM

the founder used to work with Polk many moons ago, IIRC. I have a small sub I've used for years.

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Re: CRAP


May 14, 2022, 11:53 PM

SVS is making some nice sealed subs, around 1000 watts should do it. You can room correct it on your phone.

https://www.svsound.com/products/sb-3000?variant=13625168429165&wiz_medium=cpc&wiz_source=google&wiz_campaign=7977155743&gclid=Cj0KCQjwpv2TBhDoARIsALBnVnkB33A14_2vQGRu2wEm7bcP1Mf0FBdDSyYo0O6cHg0fqljLaDLUM6EaAn_NEALw_wcB

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What’s MSRP


May 14, 2022, 11:56 PM

on that gem?

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Re: What’s MSRP


May 15, 2022, 12:33 AM

It literally tells you if you click on the link I provided.



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Wow…


May 15, 2022, 12:50 AM

you literally changed the link….


I expected more from you. Not sure why doh.

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