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What does this CU/FSU vote to end the lawsuit mean to Clemson? I've seen
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Mar 3, 2025, 12:29 PM
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$15 mil + or more possible to teams that succeed? I'm not sure how I feel about us dropping the lawsuit. Maybe it just delays the inevitable and gets us closer to a level playing field.
I'd like to see the ACC/Big12 grow a pair and fight the SEC/B10 on the automatic playoff bids, etc. But then again the ACC usually folds and does what it is told to do.
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Re: What does this CU/FSU vote to end the lawsuit mean to Clemson? I've seen
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Mar 3, 2025, 12:35 PM
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Too late. Weak Jim Phillips and the B12 commish have already handed over control of the CFP to Sankey and the B1G guy.
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Re: What does this CU/FSU vote to end the lawsuit mean to Clemson? I've seen
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Mar 3, 2025, 12:39 PM
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I hope this means we can exit in the 30/31 time frame with a reasonable price tag. Which per article lines up with sec and big and cap contract negotiations.
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Orange Phenom [14617]
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Tough to negotiate when you have no leverage***
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Mar 3, 2025, 12:39 PM
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Re: Tough to negotiate when you have no leverage***
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Mar 3, 2025, 12:46 PM
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That is right. Ask Zelezskyy
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Orange Phenom [14835]
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It means we're stuck in the ACC for at least 5 or 6 more years and we may
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Mar 3, 2025, 4:41 PM
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get slightly more money than other ACC members IF our tv ratings are better than other members. It's nowhere near what Clemson and FSU hoped a couple of years ago which was being able to get out of the conference within, well, a couple of years.
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Top TigerNet [30057]
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Au contraire,...
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Mar 4, 2025, 7:36 AM
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Without the lawsuit FSU and Clemson would have been stuck in ACC until 2036 with no realistic way out.
With this settlement:
1. They can get our by paying a greatly reduced amount and still keep their TV revenue. (The GOR will stop when they leave, not in 2036.) Instead of it costing 500+ million to get out, they can get out now for 200 million and in 2030 get out for less than 100 million.
2. From now until 2030 they should be receiving an additional 18-10 million more from ACC than they are now. This will not bring them to being equal with SEC teams, but it will help them stay competitive until they can get out and join either SEC or B1G.
3. 2030 is when B1G will negotiate a new TV deal. That is when they will be looking to expand. So, that is when FSU and Clemson will be in prime position to join SEC or B1G as that is when they will probably be looking to expansion.
Note: I have read several articles on the net, plus watched several youtube videos. (From websites similar to Tnet, which follow a specific team plus, plus websites which follow college football in general.) The three points above seem to be the general consensus from all of them. I'm not reporting them as fact. I haven't read the agreement and even if I had, I'm no attorney.
Based on all of the above, here is my speculation: Like all civil lawsuits, all parties have been negotiating behind the scenes. Neither side wanted this to go to trial. A compromise was reached. Looks to me like Clemson and FSU are the clear winners. They get more money while they are in the conference, a greatly reduced buyout when they leave, and no GOR with ACC or ESPN once they leave.
I think ACC and ESPN did not want discovery. ACC officials were setr to be deposed in Florida next week. When FL Supreme Court ruled the case could continue in Florida, ACC and ESPN agreed to the terms of the settlement.
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Game Changer [1973]
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Re: Au contraire,...
Mar 4, 2025, 9:04 AM
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I think you’re spot on about the dynamics of how this landed, Bret.
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Re: Au contraire,...
Mar 4, 2025, 9:32 AM
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It also means that Dabo and Brad had better coach their rear ends off the next five years. Clemson cannot afford a slump at all because post season play is a must.
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Game Changer [1845]
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Re: What does this CU/FSU vote to end the lawsuit mean to Clemson? I've seen
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Mar 3, 2025, 5:13 PM
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Is the playing field ever level? Attempting to create parity makes for lackluster entertainment and a system loaded with legal strife. All these systems to try to make things fair just created a bunch of fat cats. Is it seriously better than the system where boosters just douted on important players and greased the system they colve with cash? Do we really care if some football players can't even read? I mean this is where we are ending up anyway. We a right back where we started when the NCAA tried to make everything fair, except with a bunch of legal mumbo jumbo to pay for that they did not have back in the 1970's. In this current system the boys are not going to college to get edumacated. So why not just drop everything and let schools do what they do.
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Re: What does this CU/FSU vote to end the lawsuit mean to Clemson? I've seen
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Mar 3, 2025, 6:01 PM
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I hope the ACC figures this out. I would prefer for the ACC to regain their past strength in basketball and gain strength in football. Spring sports seem to be doing fine. In the meantime 15 million plus per year will certainly help us compete with the SUC and B1G. I would like to stay in the ACC if financially possible.
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Re: What does this CU/FSU vote to end the lawsuit mean to Clemson? I've seen
Mar 3, 2025, 8:56 PM
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Looks like we are stuck in the acc for at least 6 more years if not more, playing weak teams each week in football. That sucks🤦♂️
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Game Changer [1973]
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Re: What does this CU/FSU vote to end the lawsuit mean to Clemson? I've seen
Mar 4, 2025, 9:06 AM
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Getting swept in baseball really stings, I bet.
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Better than before
Mar 3, 2025, 10:57 PM
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Now you get at least $15 million per year more annually for the next 5-6 years that we would never had seen with the prior contract. Then you get a lower exit fee if they exit in 2030 when all leagues up for renewal. So instead of past grant of rights exit around $140 million you can leave for less than $100 million. A step in the right direction and we got more of what we wanted if we didn’t challenge it.
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On3 is reporting
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Mar 4, 2025, 1:26 AM
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The exit fee drops to less that 100 million in 2030 and that the increased share of revenue goes into effect if not this year, then next, based on success.
It's not what we want, but it gives us what we need in 2030 when the B1G TV contract is up for renegotiation. SEC isn't until 2034, but I doubt they wait until then if it means losing schools with a national footprint to the B1G.
Honestly, we weren't getting out unless the exit fee dropped. It now has, albeit 5 years down the road. This buys time until the bigger TV contracts are renegotiated and gets us more money to try to maintain until then if we win. Also buys time for the ACC to pull a rabbit out of its hat and drastically increase revenue for all.
It's a win either way for us, eventually
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Re: What does this CU/FSU vote to end the lawsuit mean to Clemson? I've seen
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Mar 4, 2025, 6:26 AM
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I’ve seen numbers quoted in the 20-30 Million dollar range.
A million here, a million there and soon you’re talking real money.
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It's paramount Clemson perform and dominate in the ACC
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Mar 4, 2025, 8:03 AM
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And win the conference almost every year. This is what it will take to remain in the national spotlight. the playoffs, and in recruiting which is the fuel to stay nationally relevant.
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Re: It's paramount Clemson perform and dominate in the ACC
Mar 4, 2025, 8:24 AM
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Well now we get to exit the conference in 2031 for the low low price of about $100 million.
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Rival Killer [2659]
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Kudos to FSU & Clemson for sticking it to ACC!
Mar 4, 2025, 1:21 PM
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And maybe UNC helped silently too.
Nothing would have happened without the lawsuits. Believe that. Just a bunch of fat Joes eating at the ESPN leftover trough.
Now let’s continue to be Clemson and get that FREE money!
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