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Valley Protector [1401]
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Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 11:32 AM
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could conceivably be independent of the tackle. Something just doesn't add up here, IMO.
God bless him.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102961]
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Re: Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 11:37 AM
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What car is that in your signature? Ford GT40? GT40 color but the fenders look too high. I gotta know, I'm a GT7 fanboy and play everyday. I've bought up nearly 400 cars on the game which game credits total 400,000,000 credits.
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Orange Blooded [2261]
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Re: Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 12:15 PM
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so what are you implying
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Associate AD [831]
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Re: Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 12:21 PM
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so what are you implying
He thinks unexpected heart failures are always due to COVID vaccinations.
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Athletic Dir [1137]
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Re: Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 6:32 PM
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With good reason!
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Visit the Politics board if needing proof he's an idiot***
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Jan 3, 2023, 2:50 PM
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Orange Blooded [2058]
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Re: Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 12:21 PM
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I have no idea what you are trying to say here.
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Re: Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 12:23 PM
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Of course, it doesn't.
Because you have a functioning brain and are using it.
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Game Changer [1618]
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When I saw Dale Earnhardt crash into the wall at Daytona
Jan 3, 2023, 12:43 PM
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I thought it looked like a run of the mill accident that happens in NASCAR. It didn't appear to be overly violent, but it resulted in an internal severing of the spine.
I suppose with Hamlin's hit, it could be one of those freak things where it was much worse than it looked.
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CU Medallion [18340]
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Re: When I saw Dale Earnhardt crash into the wall at Daytona
Jan 3, 2023, 3:32 PM
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Earnhardt's death in 2001 led to some high level safety changes in NASCAR for head and neck protection, including the harness the drivers now where.
Also, in 1989, Bull Rider Lane Frost died after being hit in the back by a bull that broke ribs and severed an artery. After that, Rodeo started the move for bull riders to wear a protective vest made of foam, kevlar and covered in leather. It was originally optional but is now required by all.
If the Damar Hamlin injury/cardiac arrest is a result from being hit in the chest and not a previously undetected medical condition, I can see changes coming to increase chest protection.
Also, like helmets and shields in hockey and reduced speed limits, 4 way stop signs and red lights, unfortunately changes come after tragedies.
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Orange Immortal [65700]
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Entirely possible. It could be that he was born with a
Jan 3, 2023, 1:03 PM
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faulty valve or has an electrical problem that has never manifested symptoms or has otherwise gone undiagnosed.
I know that I had several dizzy/near fainting spells while playing sports as a teenager and young adult. The standard exams and tests revealed nothing. I had a few more of these episodes as I got older, but nope, your heart seems normal, everything checks out, etc.. Then, when I was 56 years old, a new doctor was examining me and said "How long have you had this heart murmur?". I said "I don't have a heat murmur". He looked at me, held up his stehescope and said "Stethescope", ponited to himself and said "Doctor", then pointed to my chest and said "Heart murmur". I was shocked. Sent me to a cardiologist where it was discoverd that I was born with a bicusped (instead of tricuspid) aortic heart valve. I had it replaced shortly thereafter. Less than a year later, my heart went into tachycardia, and I passed out momentarily. When I got to the hospital my heart rate was 300 beats per minute. I passed out again and was saved with the paddles. Turns out I had an electrical problem with my heart. An ablation procedure was unsuccessful, and a pacemeker/defibrilator was implanted.
Turns out I'd been born with an effed up heart, but it all went undiagnosed and undetected for most of my life even though it was likely causing me problems along the way. In Hamlin's case, we don't know yet, but it's very possible he could have has some undetected heart issue. However, it's reasonable to think that the impact of the tackle is the most likely explanation at this point. We can assume nothing.
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Personal story
Jan 3, 2023, 1:07 PM
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When I was in high school, a kid on the basketball collapsed just running down the floor. Massive coronary event he was dead before he even hit the floor. Sixteen years old. I was a senior and knew him in passing but he was a sweet, good kid. Turned out he had a coronary issue that was never diagnosed.
My point is you never know. Even with modern testing, they don't look for the one-in-a-million cardiac issue when they do standard physicals. People look at someone in good outside shape and assume everything is great, but there is a chance either by genetics or development that something could be wrong.
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Re: Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 2:53 PM
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I'm old enough to remember the Hank Gathers collapse. That's what it reminded me of.
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Paw Master [16196]
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Chattin with ICU MD and critical care trauma doc
Jan 3, 2023, 2:58 PM
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We all agree it’s just freak hit placement at EXACTLY the right millisecond causing something similar to an “R on T” phenomenon resulting in VTach
And while it’s hard to tell, the response to pulseless VTach seemed pretty slow
We’ll see what develops
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ESPN had a cardiologist on this morning who
Jan 3, 2023, 3:49 PM
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explained how that " exact millisecond hit" works and how rare it is. She also talked about other possible causes and even with her expert training said she would have to wait on findings of the ones treating him.
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Orange Blooded [2180]
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Re: Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 3:07 PM
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No, that is a totally inconceivable conclusion.
His chest got crushed by Tee’s helmet, and 10 seconds later, he’s in cardiac arrest.
I am very familiar with all of the young athletes and young people around the world suddenly dying of heart issues without any prior health issues.
This is not that.
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Re: Thought on Damar Hamlin: While unlikely, the cardiac arrest
Jan 3, 2023, 3:56 PM
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The impact looked to be primarily to the chest and my first thought was commodio cordis.
For those who play or have kids who play lacrosse, this is why the shoulder pad rule went into effect which requires them to have upgraded chest protection in order to meet NOCSAE certification.
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I usually associate with
Jan 3, 2023, 8:55 PM
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little league baseball players because that was the first time I'd heard of it happening...an 11or q2 year was hit in the chest and died. I also remember a push for chest protectors....
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