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Thought Experiment
Dec 11, 2022, 12:27 PM
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Might be too much to ask the lefties to engage in such an activity, but I'll give it a try...
Consider the multi-thousands-of-years existence and arguable success of the Chinese society. How has this been possible without diversity and equity? How have they risen as a peer or better to the USA when they have no protected classes and no laws enshrining rights of marginalized minorities? The question applies to the government and to Chinese industry. How has Chinese industry become so dominant with no diversity?
I mean we hear over and over from all nooks and crannies where leftists have embedded themselves that success cannot be achieved without diversity. Current military training doctrine says explicitly that our fighting capability is dependent on diversity.
How is the Chinese military achieving such progress without diversity? They are not just lacking ethnic diversity, but also gender diversity.
I am not suggesting China's ways are to be lauded or used here, but just asking how their success could happen when I've been told by the left diversity is required to be successful.
We know the answer - because the left is full of chit. All the bunk surrounding diversity is just that. The left is trying to replace what we know we should do from common sense (equality of all) with false victimization and entitlements - all to buy votes. That strategy is working very well. Millions are convinced the 'science is settled' on diversity, white people being bad, the country being founded only as a place to own slaves, etc. When you believe this, you kneel for the anthem.
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Diversity isn't required to be successful.
Dec 11, 2022, 12:47 PM
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You can achieve success through other avenues, including fascist communist dictatorships that aggregate and consolidate wealth for the ruling class off the backs of the poor, which make up 95+% of China. China is a largely homogenous society, save for a small percentage of expats doing business in the metros. There is no diversity to protect.
Anyway, please continue with your totally subtle totally-not-racist racism.
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There is no
Dec 11, 2022, 12:56 PM
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basis for a charge of racism in that.
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Is this your first NC_tiger post, I'm gathering?***
Dec 11, 2022, 1:45 PM
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So your anti-diversity (is there a better word for that?) argument is China?
Dec 11, 2022, 12:52 PM
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Spoilers: you don't want to be an average citizen in China.
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Oculus Spirit [42491]
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Dude. You could save yourself about 10 minutes by just
Dec 11, 2022, 2:42 PM
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saying: "I'm a racist. I don't like diversity."
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Tiger Titan [50729]
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I support diversity, but I disagree that someone who opposes it must be racist.
Dec 13, 2022, 10:51 PM
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Especially if the push for diversity means changing standards. You know, such as college X accepting a certain number or minority candidates in the name of “diversity” even if those candidates are less qualified than others applying.
It could be argued that such a push for diversity is what’s racist.
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Oculus Spirit [42491]
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NC_Tiger_ is a racist.
Dec 13, 2022, 10:57 PM
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Anti-diversity is just one part of it.
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Found the real flaw in the “experiment”
Dec 11, 2022, 3:13 PM
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The assertion that those who push diversity for diversity’s sake have a goal of success for the country.
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Re: Thought Experiment
Dec 11, 2022, 3:44 PM
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You're avoidance of actual facts is par for the course for Trump supporters.
First, you have no evidence that China's military is "successful", they haven't fielded an army in decades. There was a lot of talk about the dominance of Russia's successful military, right up to the moment when Ukraine, a little larger than Texas, started handing them their ### in February.
Secondly, what makes you think China's military isn't 'diverse'? They have 56 recognized ethnicities. Han is the most populous one, followed by the Zhuang (16.9 million), Hui (10.5 million, Manchu (10.3 million), Uyghur (10 million), Miao (9.4 million), Yi (8.7 million), etc, etc, etc.
Ultimately, your only real goal is to get to the "libs suck" part. You're obsessed with hatred and faux pride that compels you to be 'better' than somebody. The problem isn't this country friend, the problem is your emotional compulsions and an obvious need for an actual, serious relationship with Christ.
Otherwise, 10 years from now you'll be hating some other group of people you see as "others".
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You'll have to excuse NC_Tiger_
Dec 11, 2022, 3:56 PM
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They all look "Chinesey" to him, thus a completely homogenous society.
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Re: Thought Experiment
Dec 11, 2022, 4:01 PM
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E pluribus unum. Out of many, one. Diversity is fine as long as we are all American in our ideals. Diversity is fine when immigrants want to and are expected to assimilate and adopt our ideas of country and freedom. When we become more diverse without all being true Americans we we begin to splinter and eventually divide. Think about a football team. It’s very diverse. However, there has to be one cause, a unified goal and cohesion. It has to be about team. America is no different. If we become more diverse but more segregated in our ideals we will absolutely fail and future generations will have no concept of what a once great country we were.
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Re: Thought Experiment
Dec 11, 2022, 3:28 PM
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Might be too much to ask the lefties to engage in such an activity, but I'll give it a try...
Consider the multi-thousands-of-years existence and arguable success of the Chinese society. How has this been possible without diversity and equity? How have they risen as a peer or better to the USA when they have no protected classes and no laws enshrining rights of marginalized minorities? The question applies to the government and to Chinese industry. How has Chinese industry become so dominant with no diversity?
I mean we hear over and over from all nooks and crannies where leftists have embedded themselves that success cannot be achieved without diversity. Current military training doctrine says explicitly that our fighting capability is dependent on diversity.
How is the Chinese military achieving such progress without diversity? They are not just lacking ethnic diversity, but also gender diversity.
I am not suggesting China's ways are to be lauded or used here, but just asking how their success could happen when I've been told by the left diversity is required to be successful.
We know the answer - because the left is full of chit. All the bunk surrounding diversity is just that. The left is trying to replace what we know we should do from common sense (equality of all) with false victimization and entitlements - all to buy votes. That strategy is working very well. Millions are convinced the 'science is settled' on diversity, white people being bad, the country being founded only as a place to own slaves, etc. When you believe this, you kneel for the anthem.
Here is how China’s economy works. Make us and your Chinese government rich, keep your mouth shut or you will die!
End of discussion.
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Re: Thought Experiment
Dec 12, 2022, 7:22 AM
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Diversity has been good for this country.
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Re: Thought Experiment
Dec 12, 2022, 11:00 AM
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Evidence. Please elaborate. Thnx
FJB
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Re: Thought Experiment
Dec 12, 2022, 11:11 AM
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110%er [3625]
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Re: Thought Experiment
Dec 12, 2022, 11:29 AM
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I have given evidence in this thread. Anyway. Some of the best and brightest wouldn't be in the US without diversity. The science community, all various forms of it, or just the tech industry alone, would be crushed without diversity. You don't see any industries in this country where diversity as helped?
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In the modern era???
Dec 12, 2022, 7:29 AM
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Most of Chinas gains have come from intellectual theft and forced labor on the backs of their own citizens.
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110%er [3625]
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Re: In the modern era???
Dec 12, 2022, 7:41 AM
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Also, much ofour gains have come from technological gains from a diverse group of people. Look at the guy running our fusion program. His last name is Hsu. Dr. Scott Hsu. That is of Chinese origin. Even look at at Steve Jobs. His father was a Syrian immigrant. I am sure the list is endless. I don't know why anyone would think some diversity isn't great for this country.
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Re: Thought Experiment
Dec 12, 2022, 9:06 AM
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Oculus Spirit [42491]
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walker is rich
Dec 12, 2022, 11:12 AM
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so in NC_Tiger_'s mind, that makes him white.
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Tiger Titan [50729]
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I haven’t heard leftists say that diversity is required to be successful.
Dec 13, 2022, 10:47 PM
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I’ve always heard them tie it to equity and fairness, not outcomes.
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