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Orange Blooded [2478]
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Do we really need habeas corpus?
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May 10, 2025, 9:10 AM
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“Donald Trump's administration is "actively looking at" suspending habeas corpus - the right of a person to challenge their detention in court - one of the US president's top aides has said.”
“Stephen Miller, the White House deputy chief of staff, told reporters on Friday that the US Constitution allowed for the legal liberty to be suspended in times of "rebellion or invasion".”
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0qgz18glljo
The last rebellion invasion we had was January 6, 2021.
Stephen Miller Is a dangerous anti American nutcase. I hope the Lord will strike down upon Miller with great vengeance and furious anger those maga who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know his name is the Lord when miller and Trump are in jail.
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Paw Master [16224]
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Re: Do we really need habeas corpus?
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May 10, 2025, 9:28 AM
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If true, Congress should be "actively moving" to impeach AND remove Trump from office. There is no rebellion. There is no organized invasion.
If Trump were to do this, there would be a rebellion and it would be justified.
This is insanity.
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Ultimate Tiger [37825]
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There was no organized invasion? Are you dumb or blind?***
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May 10, 2025, 9:54 AM
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Re: There was no organized invasion? Are you dumb or blind?***
May 10, 2025, 10:03 AM
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Re: There was no organized invasion? Are you dumb or blind?***
May 10, 2025, 11:27 AM
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I might be thinking of the organized caravans.
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Paw Master [16224]
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Re: There was no organized invasion? Are you dumb or blind?***
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May 10, 2025, 2:26 PM
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Neither. I approve of the job Trump has done to secure the border. The reduction in the entry of illegal aliens is commendable and I approve of lawful efforts to deport illegals, but don't think it is wise to discard the Constitution in doing so.
If we are to adopt the policy of the ends justifying the means, then Katie bar the door.
I like the Constitution far better than Trump or any President and for the Administration to even consider revoking habeus corpus over a failed immigration and border security policy that has been an issue for decades, concerns me as an American first, a conservative voter who has never voted for a Democrat for President and as veteran.
We didn't get in this mess over night and it is folly in my opinion to trample over the Constitution to try to fix this problem.
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Athletic Dir [1102]
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Re: Do we really need habeas corpus?
May 10, 2025, 4:03 PM
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No president would consider doing this in peacetime, but Trump is active considering it. This move from the Hitler playbook was supposed to come later, after he cripples the courts.
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Clemson Conqueror [11561]
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Suspension Act in Constitution allows for suspension of Habeus Corpus
May 10, 2025, 11:07 AM
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The Suspension Clause is in The Constitution (see link); Suspension of Habeus Corpus can be rightfully be applied to Tren de Aragua & MS-13.
This is America’s only reasonable path to ridding ourselves if the criminal gangs that were de facto invited by the Biden Handlers Administration into America.
It has been used before.
Looking forward to the revised arguments on here that the Suspension Clause cannot be used except in cases of a formal declaration of war on the country from which the criminal invaders had come.
https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-i/clauses/763
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Orange Blooded [2478]
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Re: Suspension Act in Constitution allows for suspension of Habeus Corpus
May 10, 2025, 11:29 AM
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You have failed to provide any evidence of an invasion.
The United States of America is not experiencing an invasion.
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Clemson Conqueror [11561]
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Re: Suspension Act in Constitution allows for suspension of Habeus Corpus
May 10, 2025, 7:58 PM
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An invasion in the sense of Iraq invading Kuwait back in 1990 is not necessary.
A guerilla type of invasion, with gradual increases in enemies to the American people reaching a critical mass in which the enemy forcibly takes possession of the assets of citizens and/or harms the citizens is an invasion, too.
As for the Biden Handlers Admin flying in so many illegal aliens, with guerilla enemy combatants imbedded in the immigration flights, we have two choices:
Either the Biden Handlers were too stupid to/ careless to root out the enemy combatants before putting them 8n the flights
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Biden Handlers knew the criminals / enemy combatants that they were turning loose in the USA, which means they committed treason.
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Clemson Icon [25802]
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Re: Suspension Act in Constitution allows for suspension of Habeus Corpus
May 10, 2025, 8:06 PM
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I bet there nuances that you don't understand and your mind is getting to you.
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Orange Blooded [2478]
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Game Changer [1960]
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Re: I guess if we are being invaded that means
May 10, 2025, 11:55 AM
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Or they are already here illegally.
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Game Changer [1960]
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Sure, and its an issue- but it wasnt an emergency
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May 10, 2025, 12:25 PM
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for the last four years, so how did become and emergency in the last couple of months?
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Re: Sure, and its an issue- but it wasnt an emergency
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May 10, 2025, 12:27 PM
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They saw it as an emergency when Biden was president and that is part of what Trump ran on.
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Game Changer [1960]
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Its an issue,
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May 10, 2025, 12:41 PM
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not an “emergency.” Just like films being made elsewhere is not a “national security threat.” They just want to use those definitions so they can abuse their power.
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Re: Its an issue,
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May 10, 2025, 12:43 PM
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I never saw it as an emergency, but they saw it and still see it as a crisis.
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Clemson Conqueror [11561]
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Re: MS-13 started in the US in the 70s
May 10, 2025, 8:01 PM
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I didn’t write or pass the Suspension Clause.
Neither did you.
Regardless of your and my activities, it is in the Constitution.
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More and more MAGAts are becoming the threat to the country
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May 10, 2025, 10:05 PM
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Having you openly call for the suspension of Habeus Corpus is ridiculous and frightening. It worries me what will happen when/if Trump actually tries this and what he'll do when the courts rule against him (which they will).
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Ultimate Tiger [35028]
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Paw Master [17238]
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You should harness all that anger and act upon it***
May 10, 2025, 1:36 PM
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Re: Do we really need habeas corpus?
May 10, 2025, 3:57 PM
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Suspend it for all non citizens.
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Re: Do we really need habeas corpus?
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May 10, 2025, 8:16 PM
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Solid Orange ... +1 for the Pulp Fiction reference
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Dynasty Maker [3260]
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There is no invasion, and we're not in some epic struggle with....
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May 10, 2025, 9:55 PM
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with latin american gangs that most people have never even heard of.
And even if habeas corpus needed to be suspended, which of course it does not, that would be congress' job, not the President.
This is just fascist maga-talk.
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Orange Blooded [2478]
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Re: There is no invasion, and we're not in some epic struggle with....
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May 10, 2025, 11:31 PM
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Gosmitty 100% spot on correct
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Paw Master [17238]
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When did he suspend it?***
May 10, 2025, 11:22 PM
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Athletic Dir [1102]
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Re: When did he suspend it?***
May 11, 2025, 11:27 AM
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They have been violating it, but he hasn't officially suspended it. All Congress has to do is what they should have done when Shitzenpants declared an emergency - vote that there isn't an emergency. I can say this for Trump though: all this chaos probably means he hasn't sexually assaulted anyone lately.
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