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Raven Saunders


Aug 2, 2021, 8:32 AM

Raven Saunders still looking to meet an oppressed person. There's about a dozen places she could move to understand what real oppression is. I'll set up a gofundme page to help her get there.



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Did she say she has been oppressed?


Aug 2, 2021, 8:50 AM

Perhaps in a different quote?

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Did he say she said she had been oppressed?


Aug 2, 2021, 8:52 AM

Perhaps in a different post?

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Did I say he said she said she had been oppressed?***


Aug 2, 2021, 8:58 AM



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Did you say I said he said she said she had been oppressed?


Aug 2, 2021, 8:59 AM

Wait, got ahead of you there. Sorry.

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HA-HA!


Aug 2, 2021, 8:59 AM [ in reply to Did I say he said she said she had been oppressed?*** ]

You forgot to put "perhaps in another _______" in the message body. Facial.

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Perhaps in another timeline.


Aug 2, 2021, 9:00 AM

Been watching too much Marvel Cinematic Universe.

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well, she did perch at Burke***


Aug 2, 2021, 9:28 AM



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If she's a hollerer, she'll be a screamer.
If she's a screamer, she'll get you arrested.


Re: Raven Saunders


Aug 2, 2021, 9:33 AM

Sigh.

It feels like we've hit the Wayback Machine and we're like, doing the '60's all over again.



Fascinating to watch people react exactly the same old ways.

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There are one or two key differences in her experience


Aug 2, 2021, 9:40 AM

in this country as a black person and those gentlemen on the stand. The situations are far from analogous, as are the rationales of those who disagree with their actions.

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Re: There are one or two key differences in her experience


Aug 2, 2021, 10:42 AM

Oh, I know.

One of the more tiresome and frustrating thing about liberals is their shrill persistence that zero progress has been made and certain elements of their Big Tent continually vie for the award of Biggest Victim. It's just this bleak, the-sky-is-falling, despair-filled view of the universe.

Of course...the same is increasingly holding true of MAGA as well. Not that they see this for one second about themselves.

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definitely a chicken or the egg thing.


Aug 2, 2021, 10:54 AM

The more the left wants to change things, the more the right pushes back for status quo, and vice-versa.

The ######## started when both sides started viewing the origins of these ideological differences as being rooted in evil intentions. Empathy is dead, ergo so is compromise, and I'm not sure how we get it back.

I might just bookmark this post because I think I flog this thought ad nauseum.

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Re: There are one or two key differences in her experience


Aug 2, 2021, 11:18 AM [ in reply to There are one or two key differences in her experience ]

I don't agree or disagree with her actions, or what she says she believes in, but no one can speak to what her experience is as a black person in this country. Just like I could speak for you and whatever you are, and you can't for me. She could justify her stance based on what she's been through.

I completely agree with what you said below though. The lack of empathy we have as a society is a big reason we have the division we currently see.

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Re: There are one or two key differences in her experience


Aug 2, 2021, 11:35 AM

I know. I just really wish we'd all sort of, take a breath and not be so eager to be so angry at each other.

It isn't healthy, and we're definitely in a dangerous place I hope we get through.

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There are things regarding my statement that I can


Aug 2, 2021, 11:53 AM [ in reply to Re: There are one or two key differences in her experience ]

absolutely speak to with certainty.

She didn't go to a segregated school. She wasn't forced to use separate water fountains and bathrooms, nor ride on the back of a bus. She likely never got chastised for talking to a white man 1-1 the way they would have for talking to a white woman 1-1. Life ain't perfect for her or anyone else, but I can say with 100% assurance that her life experience as a black woman is far, far improved from their lives as black men, at least as it concerns matters solely focused on her race.

What requires conjecture on my part, but I'd bet a lot of money towards if it were proveable, is that the number of people who disagree with her actions based solely or partially because of her race is vastly lower than that same metric for Smith and Carlos.

So no, I still contend that the actions of them and her, nor the world they live in, are analogous.

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if you have to explain it you missed***


Aug 2, 2021, 9:58 AM



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Never heard of him, looks like a professional wrassler***


Aug 2, 2021, 11:57 AM



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I was up all night about this***


Aug 2, 2021, 12:19 PM



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USA Up all night?


Aug 2, 2021, 12:27 PM



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^^^This one really should be read more.


Aug 2, 2021, 2:36 PM

At least by children of the 80's.

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Just saw this and mad respect.***


Aug 2, 2021, 6:39 PM



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Re: Raven Saunders


Aug 2, 2021, 4:37 PM

Think her protest had more to do with LGBTQ issues than purely race as many here seem to speculate. I’m not a fan of people always playing the victim…but she was quoted saying "For me, just being who I always aspired to be, to be able to be me and not apologize for it (and) show the younger generation that no matter what they tell you, no matter how many boxes they try to fit you in, you can be you,".

Seems to be more of a role model than victim to me.

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She needs a mental health coach imo.***


Aug 2, 2021, 5:05 PM



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He's a big man.


Aug 2, 2021, 6:24 PM

Screw him.

Semi-caveat: I did hear she was respectful to the Chinese anthem during the medal ceremony and didn't do the "X" until afterwards, so there's that.

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