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All-American [564]
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So the BBB is most popular ever?
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Jul 5, 2025, 3:21 PM
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Trump must have polled 3 people in the room with him.
Truthfully there is not much to like in it , be you liberal or fiscally conservative. Some may not get the raft of sunset provisions included in it, boy are they gonna be surprised later.
Nothing like increasing the national debt, hooboy toss another crate of dollars on the fire. Soon interest on debt will kill discretionary spending, shoot it already has but they will not admit it.
We are rushing headlong off a cliff and our elected morans are congratulating our pace🤦♂️
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Offensive Star [321]
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You should go watch "Skyfall"***
Jul 5, 2025, 4:05 PM
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All-American [564]
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Re: You should go watch "Skyfall"***
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Jul 5, 2025, 4:12 PM
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As someone who aligns fiscally conservative this bill sucks swamp water. Adding trillions to already unmanageable trillions is no way to run a budget. Feel free to play again.
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Offensive Star [321]
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What would you cut? And how much?***
Jul 5, 2025, 4:15 PM
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: What would you cut? And how much?***
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Jul 5, 2025, 4:19 PM
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He probably wouldn't have given those tax cuts to the wealthy. At least that's what I think he would say.
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Offensive Star [321]
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Only communists think that a tax cut is "giving you something"***
Jul 5, 2025, 4:21 PM
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Only communists think that a tax cut is "giving you something"***
Jul 5, 2025, 4:23 PM
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Okay.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Wut tax cuts?***
Jul 5, 2025, 6:15 PM
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Sorry, if you don't know that, then maybe you shouldn't be posting in this thread.
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All-American [564]
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Re: What would you cut? And how much?***
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Jul 5, 2025, 4:27 PM
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I would cut 10%-20% on all departments across the board, not tax cuts for anyone, redefine the term income as applied to wages/salary. Look at raising rates on upper percentile earners. Only exceptions to across the board cuts would be SS/MEDICARE.
Taking a page from Tiggity, strong arm Govenors to convene balanced budget and term limit conventions.
Look in to a Federal VAT, that captures illicit and cash economy monies. Estimated above$1T currently.
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Offensive Star [321]
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So, a successful person should pay 40% tax rate vs your 12%? Why?
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Jul 5, 2025, 4:41 PM
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Do you get 28% less benefits than someone making more money? What benefits are those?
Why are SS and Medicare exempt? but VA is not?
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All-American [564]
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Re: So, a successful person should pay 40% tax rate vs your 12%? Why?
Jul 5, 2025, 5:06 PM
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VA falls under Dept. of Defense, that department can decide how to arrive at cut level.
SS/Medicare was paid in to over a lifetime of work. It is not discretionary in other words.
My dream tax plan would be no income tax at all. I would prefer a Federal VAT to replace it as then everyone would have skin in the game. No need to file for the vast numbers of people so there goes a huge portion of the IRs as you would pay as you go. Will not happen so more revenue must come from somewhere, 50% pay nothing now,so you gotta go where the money is to run stuff.
The very rich are doing nothing to help their case with homes,jets , yachts and other extravagant spending. Forgot bunkers.
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Offensive Star [321]
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The VA is not part of the DOD.
Jul 5, 2025, 5:18 PM
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Flat tax is the only thing that is fair.
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All-American [564]
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Re: The VA is not part of the DOD.
Jul 5, 2025, 5:40 PM
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You are correct they are separate, so yes they get cut too.
Flat tax would still be based on excluding income at a certain level. Then you gotta argue over deductions for kids, marriage etc. VAT is fair, collected at point of sale and captures shadow economy monies.
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Offensive Star [321]
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Zero deductions, zero non profits, zero itemizing, zero irs
Jul 5, 2025, 5:51 PM
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Why should someone that has kids pay less tax than someone that doesn’t? Kids make up a huge portion of federal funding (Medicaid, schools, ebt), those people should pay more if anything.
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: Zero deductions, zero non profits, zero itemizing, zero irs
Jul 5, 2025, 5:56 PM
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They want thos country to grow and they want to give incentives to have kids.
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Head Coach [977]
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Head Coach [977]
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Re: The VA is not part of the DOD.
Jul 7, 2025, 3:36 PM
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Cut the VA huh? Yeah, I guess all those service related injuries, risking your life for meager pay, yeah those should come out of your pocket. I mean, insurance and Healthcare in the United States is so dang good anyways. Thanks for your service. Here's a lifetime of pain...but don't worry I'll make sure to say "Thank you for your service" as I pass you in the grocery store. It's basically the same thing.
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Head Coach [977]
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Re: So, a successful person should pay 40% tax rate vs your 12%? Why?
Jul 7, 2025, 3:31 PM
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Ever used the VA? It's terrible, but at least it's an earned benefit. Ever done 3 deployments to the middle east? You'll want those VA benefits when you retire and the military has sapped your physical abilities. Additionally, why not fund the IRS and then actually collect the taxes from those who owe? Im not talking about an increase, just holding those responsible who don't pay?... both rich and poor. Nobody like the IRS but ironically enough they are one of the most efficient use of taxpayer dollars. I remember a certain president, high earner, supposedly worth Billions bragging about paying less in taxes than your everyday blue collar worker. Something wrong in that scenario.
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All-American [564]
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Re: What would you cut? And how much?***
Jul 5, 2025, 4:44 PM
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Those across the board cuts would be 1st year, following year more cuts with a narrower scope.
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National Champion [7453]
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All-American [564]
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Re: What would you cut? And how much?***
Jul 5, 2025, 5:08 PM
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They can but it must start with voting out any and all incumbents regardless of blue/red with a stated reason of debt spending.
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Ring of Honor [22755]
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: FEMA? Maybe starting with assistance to Texas? Or not?
Jul 5, 2025, 4:39 PM
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Thats going to be interesting.
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Offensive Star [321]
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Orange Blooded [2568]
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Re: FEMA? LOL. You mean the entity that gives aide based on race?***
Jul 5, 2025, 4:57 PM
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I have never known it to be based on race.
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All-American [564]
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All-American [564]
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Re: FEMA? Maybe starting with assistance to Texas? Or not?
Jul 5, 2025, 4:56 PM
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So yes to your implied questions, FEMA/NOAA gets cut. The whole federal insurance program of last resort needs to be axed as does federal student loans.
Maybe , just maybe , folks will be forced to stop building in areas of disaster.
Shoot I was looking at property in Texas, realtor showed me some riverfront in that area. It was pretty until I started looking up a bit and saw debris, clothes etc stuck in trees about 20 foot up. He said they had 2 500 year floods, I laughed and said I guess they not 500 year floods then.
Federal student loans set off a building frenzy on University campuses, no issue on raising rates as they gladly steered students in to debt. You want costs down take away the promise of never ending money.
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Clemson Icon [24052]
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109675]
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EVERYTHING. 5%, maybe 10%, across the board.
Jul 5, 2025, 5:02 PM
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If you cut EVERYTHING equally, there's no room for complaints. Military, planned parenthood, HUD, DOE, FEMA, NWS, BLS, IRS, FBI, EVERYTHING.
THEN, I'd hold everything steady, SAME DOLLARS every year. No adjusting for inflation. Then let inflation keep adding the savings in future years, keeping the spending THE SAME DOLLARS.
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All-American [564]
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Re: EVERYTHING. 5%, maybe 10%, across the board.
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Jul 5, 2025, 5:10 PM
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Voice of reason in a world gone mad👏👏👏
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [109675]
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And that includes Medicare. Medicaid, Social Security, Food Stamps, etc as well.
Jul 5, 2025, 5:13 PM
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Every. Thing.
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All-American [564]
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Re: And that includes Medicare. Medicaid, Social Security, Food Stamps, etc as well.
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Jul 5, 2025, 5:18 PM
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I agree to a large extent on SS/Medicare, thing is the howling would be deafening. One can make the argument those 2 are different as one pays in to them.
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Head Coach [977]
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Re: And that includes Medicare. Medicaid, Social Security, Food Stamps, etc as well.
Jul 7, 2025, 3:38 PM
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If you truly paid in to Social Security you would be able to opt out. You don't pay in to social security, your paying for the person who is currently withdrawing from Social Security. Currently, more people are withdrawing than are depositing. If anything this program should be optional. It isn't though because that would just exacerbate the bankruptcy.
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Hall of Famer [8410]
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Re: And that includes Medicare. Medicaid, Social Security, Food Stamps, etc as well.
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Jul 7, 2025, 3:48 PM
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Any company that funded its pension like SS would end up sending everyone to prison for running a ponzi scheme. Yet its been how the feds have run things for decades and its about to blow up in all of our faces.
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Head Coach [977]
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Re: It isn't optional because people would opt out
Jul 7, 2025, 4:51 PM
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Isn't that a personal responsibility problem though?
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Orange Elite [5550]
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No, for a lot of people it would be a rational act at the moment
Jul 7, 2025, 4:53 PM
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Social Security exists precisely because poor people aren't able to to plan for retirement on their own.
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