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Valley Protector [1431]
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This is just free market enterprise at work, the foundation of this land
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We ain’t a big fan of guardrails and regulations in the USA, Tennessee won that NCAA lawsuit.
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110%er [3984]
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Re: This is just free market enterprise at work, the foundation of this land
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Dec 13, 2024, 5:20 AM
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The NFL has guard rails and regulations. College football can have it too.
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Varsity [107]
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Apples, meet oranges.******
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CU Medallion [18540]
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Re: Apples, meet oranges.******
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Dec 13, 2024, 7:33 AM
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Once they’re being paid, which they are, it is exactly apples meets apples. Stop doubling down on stupid.
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Varsity [107]
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Take an ECON 101 class.
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Dec 13, 2024, 7:59 AM
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You're doubling down on the stupid.
Salary and endorsements are two very different things. Conflating them is bogus.
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Tiger Spirit [9142]
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Your entire stance on amateur athletics is bogus***
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Dec 13, 2024, 8:52 AM
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Tiger Titan [45372]
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Re: Take an ECON 101 class.
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Dec 13, 2024, 2:45 PM
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You are beyond ignorant. You need to join the folks in Realville. Maybe you are currently in ECON101 you sure bring it up a lot.
One of the saddest posters on this board and that is saying something.
Regurgitate the same BS everyday.
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Clemson Conqueror [11162]
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Re: Apples, meet oranges.******
Dec 13, 2024, 9:39 AM
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Exactly time for contracts. Once you are paid to play you are a professional. That is the only difference in college and the NFL now.
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Varsity [107]
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Tray to keep up. NIL is paid specifically for to contracts
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Dec 13, 2024, 9:47 AM
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Between the athletes and the collectives.
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CU Medallion [18540]
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Re: Tray to keep up. NIL is paid specifically for to contracts
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Dec 14, 2024, 11:29 PM
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FFS. You’re a flat earth level imbecile.
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Ultimate Tiger [34004]
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Top TigerNet [30395]
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As a free market capitalist, I agree with you.
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Dec 13, 2024, 8:12 AM
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A student should have the right to drop out of school at any time he or she wishes.
But, that doesn't mean an organization set up to assist some students must be forced to accept those students into other universities.
The NCAA also has the right to set guidelines.
I maintain, even though I am probably the only one in America, who blames the NCAA (and its member institutions) for creating this problem and for perpetuating it. My solution is simple.
Rule: When you sign a student to an athletic scholarship (whatever you call it) that kid counts against your maximum number of scholarships for that sport until he or she graduates from your institution or until 5 years has passed, whichever comes first.
No one is forcing a school to sign a person to a scholarship. If Mike Norvell knew that when he signed 25 kids out of the portal they would count against his scholarship limit for either five years or until they graduated from FSU, he would be looking at a different group of players to sign.
But, the NCAA could not care less about education and degrees and graduation. So, blame the NCAA.
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Varsity [107]
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Your solution violates federal law
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Dec 13, 2024, 8:34 AM
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and at least two federal judicial decisions.
Please do some research first the next time.
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Top TigerNet [30395]
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Help me out. I'm no attorney.
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Dec 13, 2024, 12:04 PM
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Where have the courts said that the NCAA cannot set academic standards for athletes or for the schools who choose to voluntarily participate in the NCAA?
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Valley Protector [1431]
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Game Changer [1905]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
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Dec 13, 2024, 7:20 AM
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IF they're getting big bucks; scholarships should be off the table.
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Clemson Icon [27586]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
Dec 13, 2024, 7:22 AM
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That could easily be abused though. They could pay a bunch of players more and they don't need scholarships, then pay some less and also give those players scholarships. It would give the teams a lot of wiggle room to stack rosters.
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Varsity [107]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
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Dec 13, 2024, 9:20 AM
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As I’ve stated before, what we have now can best be described as semi-pro college affiliated football. If I weren’t so addicted to Clemson sports I’d just walk away from the whole convoluted mess. The thrill is gone.
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Varsity [107]
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Stop conflating scholarships with NIL.
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Dec 13, 2024, 1:04 PM
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Two very different things. Two different funding sources. Two different sets of rules. Educate yourself.
You also missed the obvious. If School A stops giving scholarships and School B keeps giving them, guess which one has a big recruiting and TP advantage?
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National Champion [7658]
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Didnt Marshall fire the HC after they just won the league championship?
Dec 13, 2024, 7:46 AM
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This might be more of a protest than looking for $$$. If this is the case, then I’m kind of good with it.
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TigerNet Elite [70145]
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Marshall didn't fire him...
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Dec 13, 2024, 8:13 AM
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Head coach Charles Huff left after accepting the head coaching position at Southern Miss.
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Game Changer [1970]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
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Dec 13, 2024, 8:49 AM
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In the comments of that story is the solution. NIL need contracts to protect both party's interests. I don't have any problem with NIL the locks someone into a school for 4 years, otherwise DON"T TAKE THE MONEY! There needs to be a trade off. Don't take NIL and you have the ability to move around freely. You take $1.5 million dollars plus a scholarship? Your butt is mine so to speak.
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Clemson Conqueror [11232]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
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Dec 13, 2024, 8:50 AM
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No, if players at a low level school like Marshall think they can transfer and do better, they are the stupid ones. If you can't spell talent, you better get someone to explain it to you before you enter the Portal.
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Varsity [107]
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So, if you ever changed jobs for more momey
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Dec 13, 2024, 11:23 AM
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Then using your own example, you're one of the stupid ones.
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Ultimate Tiger [36227]
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apples meet oranges, false equivalence and all that stuff you say
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Dec 13, 2024, 11:35 AM
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You're comparing student-athletes to people working for a company or their own business. Are student-athletes employees of the college or university? The court says they are not barred from or may be considered employees of the school (Johnson vs NCAA) but not necessarily. It is still being debated.
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Tiger Titan [45372]
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Re: So, if you ever changed jobs for more momey
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Bluffton you have STUPID wrapped up. So these kids have jobs? WTH is their job. Dumb analogy. They are in school getting a free education; something most of us was not afforded and probably had much better grades than a majority of them. Pathetic
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
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Dec 13, 2024, 9:12 AM
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There is no "college football"
Just glad I was alive to see it when it was
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Game Changer [1970]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
Dec 13, 2024, 9:36 AM
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It's not like Marshall has not lost it's entire team before...Just Sayin'
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Orange Elite [5447]
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Cue the dark music.
Dec 13, 2024, 9:40 AM
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National Champion [7153]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
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Dec 13, 2024, 11:44 AM
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It's not like Marshall has not lost it's entire team before...Just Sayin'
My friends lost parents, my sisters lost friends, and our parents lost friends when the plane went down. So your quip is not funny. Keep it classy.
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Valley Protector [1450]
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Orange Elite [5447]
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It's what the kids sued for and got.
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Dec 13, 2024, 9:39 AM
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And SCOTUS backed them.
Now they're going to get it good and hard.
Many will destroy their football (and academic if they have any) hopes and dreams in the portal as they sit there languishing because they decided they could go find greener pastures than the one they were recruited into.
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
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It's disgusting. I despise what has happened to my favorite sport.
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All-In [10900]
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Just wait--
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Dec 13, 2024, 11:32 AM
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Soon Millionaire donors will want headsets, play call sheets, required snap counts for their clients, a say in coach hiring and firing, who plays, who sits
Kryschewski, Willams, Wright, Bennett, Boeheim, Saban.
This list will grow and will grow fast
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National Champion [7153]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
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Dec 13, 2024, 11:37 AM
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The coach (Huff) wanted a one-way contract, guaranteed money for him without a buy-out for the University. Marshall called his bluff.
40 portal players in 2023 and 46 this year. So it should be no surprise to have players inter the portal. The last count I saw was about 40 transfers and graduations combined.
Worse, they are losing all their passing, receiving, running yardage and TDs.
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Paw Master [16931]
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"What are we even doing?" is a red pill question. If you take a step back, you
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Dec 13, 2024, 11:52 AM
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realize that...aside from Clemson (for now) and the Academies...what the heck are you cheering for as a fan?
I thought the headline about Marshall's team was hyperbole...and it probably is...but not by much. I looked at how many of their players are in the portal...it's already 26, almost all on the two-deep. And another 15 or so Seniors (can't really tell anymore if they have eligibility?). They truly are looking like they'll lost nearly their entire 2-deep.
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110%er [3682]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
Dec 13, 2024, 3:16 PM
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It could be fixed but won’t. Just hold the mercenaries to the same entrance requirements as the other students. . When they’re flipping burgers, they’ll get off the high horse.
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Orange Blooded [2170]
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Re: College football is so stupid now.
Dec 13, 2024, 3:19 PM
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How many will end up nowhere? Most of them.
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