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It's OK. All is well.
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Mar 15, 2024, 11:53 AM
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There is no crisis at the border. ~ Brandon & Alajendro.
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Hang on. Person living in a non-USA country commits crimes in
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Mar 15, 2024, 11:55 AM
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said country, then flees country to another country to avoid police.
Police from both countries work together and apprehend and deport said person.
And you get what from this?
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Re: Hang on. Person living in a non-USA country commits crimes in
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Mar 15, 2024, 12:02 PM
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She got through our border. With drugs and weapons. That’s my point. You serious Clark? Wonder how long she was over here? Wonder why the state ran media didn’t report that a mass murderer who mutilates her victims was caught in America?
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Hey if you only frequent fringe media it may lead you to believe that
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Mar 15, 2024, 12:08 PM
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"state ran media" whatever that means isn't reporting it.
Use your google bro, it's all over the news.
Did she get across the border with those items? Or procure them once here? I dont' know and you don't either.
I mean, you can yell at the clouds all you want but I'm not sure it's reasonable to think you can stop 1000% of illegal immigration. Certainly we need to shore things up in that area, but some single incidence isn't quite enough to get my blood pressure too high.
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Re: Hey if you only frequent fringe media it may lead you to believe that
Mar 15, 2024, 12:15 PM
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First off, single incident my ###. Multiple instances every week, and you have to dig for it. I did google it. The only major media source that reported on it was Fox News. NBC, MSNBC, CBS, ABC seem to be missing from the google search.
I’ll make sure to keep posting every time I find illegals committing crimes in America.
Yeah, I’m sure she waited until she got to America to pick up her fentanyl. Lol. Where does America get their fentanyl? Definitely not in Mexico, right?
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Thanks, I wasn't going to do the work for the OP.
Mar 15, 2024, 12:39 PM
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Mainly because he'll still deny it.
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You lazy AF. Click on the first GD link you'll see a peacock.
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:12 PM
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NBC.
Big dummy.
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3rd link is ABC***
Mar 15, 2024, 1:14 PM
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Link 6. NBC. AGAIN.***
Mar 15, 2024, 1:15 PM
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Oh. I got this one. Fox news makes it's living stirring up people
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Mar 15, 2024, 1:34 PM
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with sensational stories that appeal to it's audience. You know, to generate clicks and viewers. So ILLEGAL MASS MURDERING DRUG DEALER ARRESTED IN THE USA WITH DRUGS AFTER TEARING OUT VICTIM HEARTS appeals to people like you, and you'll consume that information.
Those other outlets probably didn't deem it worth to report as "national news". I mean, the same headline could read "Mexican fugitive facing murder charges arrested after crossing the border" and it would be a)just as factual, b)less sensational, and c)probably not worthy of national headlines.
Make sense? Probably not.
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Seeing as I have not spoken to the mother, sister, brother, and wife of an
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Mar 15, 2024, 2:35 PM
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dead illegal worker in oh......a couple of hours, I will give you my latest first-person, real world example (not from a substack, social media, or any blog). I'd be lying if I said it was my 100th case. It's much higher than that.
Guy died working. He was from a tiny village in Mexico. Guy died literally first day on the job. Never got a chance to send money back home, as he was never paid.
He left behind a sister and mother and father in MEXICO. His brother was with him working in SC and witnessed the death as it happened. Also had a common law wife, a 11yo son and a 1yo son. All in Mexico. He "always wanted to build a house and have his own home". His plan was to work here in SC, send money back to his wife for her and the children and also a little for his parents (brother was to help with this as well), and to save money to eventually RETURN TO MEXICO and build a house, retire, and let HIS SONS come to the US to work and support him.
This has been going on so long it's literally a generational common practice now in Mexico. You send your sons to work in the US, they support mom and dad into old age, their own families, save up, then return when older to send their own sons to the US to work and support them in old age. This is a legit retirement plan in Mexico, and it's been happening for generations now.
Anyway, got in touch with the sister, mother, and brother. Common law wife is now with another man and has married him, and took the youngest son. We have to find both of them and have an attorney helping us in Mexico.
So when I see threads like this, from shady websites, substacks, social media and blogs, it doesn't match the real world I deal with, the real grieving people I talk to, or the facts of ANYONE who is actually working here in the US illegally. None came to escape drug gangs, or to deal drugs, or to become Americans, or to traffic children, or vote democrat (most hate our politics). They don't come to live the American dream. 99% plan to return to Mexico someday to retire in luxury. They come here to escape poverty, pay for their parents healthcare, insulin, dad's heart surgery, and to send their little brother to the local college. They come to support wives and children, and to save up a nest egg to return to and live out their lives BACK HOME. And their own children are sent here when old enough to make money as well, so that nest egg you come back to, and that house you never had that you can now build, your kids can then support you into old age, and their families. Rinse and repeat.
Everything I typed above is a fact. I have talked to hundreds of family members of illegal workers over a 20+ year period. I am more informed on this than 99.9% of people in SC, I promise. I know when they come to the US, where they lived, where they work, how much they were paid, and who they were supporting. That's my job. I have seen a dozen people in a MicroTel hotel room all living in a single room, living on maybe $100 a week, while making $850 a week, just so they can send MORE money back home. Sending money back home IS THEIR GOAL, OBJECTIVE, and PURPOSE. Almost always some to parents, and almost always to wives and children they left behind.
Is this true for 100% of people in the US illegally? No. But everything above is generally correct for 99% of the illegal workers who are actually working. I think I can comfortably say IF THEY'RE EMPLOYED, what I wrote above is the case 99% of the time. Well over 100 cases and I have NEVER seen a SINGLE case, where a deceased worker was NOT SENDING MONEY TO SOMEONE IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY. i have also never had a case where someone came to the US to become a citizen. Fully 100% ALWAYS at least plan to return to Mexico. Some never make it back, but that is the ultimate goal for ALL of them.
Reality is completely warped for many people these days. I really feel sorry for people who consume news in the US, of whatever political flavor they prefer. We are a broken culture. Ignorant, and uninformed, top to bottom, and left to right. There is no relativity anymore. We consume what we like to eat in the news, oblivious to what may or not be the case. We believe what we want to believe, over what may in fact be a reality that we just don't like, or wish to avoid, or both. Or neither. Either way, it's just a sad state we're in and people like the OP just make me more sad. It's not worth arguing with them either. I think I've made my point on this "issue". Few people ever have the opportunity to see the issue as I see it in my profession. Not only is it an eye opening experience, it's also so consistent, and predictable that what i see, and know, first hand, is NOT what people of my political persuasion are told, nor do they believe, and it makes me question a lot of things. I don't blame the OP for his post. He doesn't know any better. He's shaped by a world where if it bleeds, it leads, and that's not a healthy reflection of reality.
My own party, the republican party, AND the democrats BOTH LIE ABOUT THIS ISSUE for their own objectives. You won't see republicans or democrats say what I see first hand. Democrats say they're all refugees from whatever. Drugs, gangs, violence, whatever. Democrats claim they come here to live the American dream and want citizenship. Republicans say they're all fentanyl dealers, cannibals, murders, rapists, human traffickers, and criminals. NEITHER POLITICAL PARTY IS BEING TRUTHFUL. Option C, the ugly, non-political, non-sexy truth is they only come here to escape one thing, poverty, and none plan, nor WANT TO BECOME AMERICANS. They simply want to leverage our dollars to benefit the lives of their loved ones NOT IN THE US. They are much smarter, rational, and grounded than most Americans.
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Re: Seeing as I have not spoken to the mother, sister, brother, and wife of an
Mar 15, 2024, 2:47 PM
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Ok so you’re completely biased to this topic then. Cool. I don’t understand what you are playing at here. That I should be sympathetic that illegal immigrants are coming over to work for low wages and send all of their, under the table, tax free money to another country? You are just confirming my stance. You just admitted they have no plans of becoming a citizen and contributing to this society. No way you expect me to feel sympathetic about that.
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Well that's not true.
Mar 15, 2024, 2:50 PM
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"Republicans say they're all fentanyl dealers, cannibals, murders, rapists, human traffickers, and criminals."
Well, maybe the part about entering illegally makes them technically criminals, but it seems really odd you'd say that stuff given you ostensibly care something about truth.
Why not just tell the truth?
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I told the truth, as I've seen it.
Mar 15, 2024, 3:17 PM
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Not how I've read it, or watched it on TV, or blogs. As I've seen it, first hand.
And what I have said matches no messaging from either political party in the US. They both say things different from what I've seen.
And beyond that, no one ever mentions why they're still here, in record numbers. And why GWB, Reagan, Trump, Biden, Clinton, or Obama, none have fixed the problem. And the 535 members of Congress, haven't fixed the problem. For decades now. And I've told you the best most effective way to solve the problem. Several actually. None are ever suggested. Why? Because they'd work, and we can't have that.
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So republicans say
Mar 15, 2024, 3:51 PM
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"they're all fentanyl dealers, cannibals, murders, rapists, human traffickers, and criminals."
What republicans? I've never heard one say that in person or in media, and I'm pretty well attuned to the angst over the illegal invasion.
This looks like pretty rank hyperbole to me.
I would say this is a more accurate, if not nearly so demagogically pleasing to say this:
Rank and file Republicans tend to be much more concerned about the apparent disregard for the law on the part of govt with the ongoing flood if illegals. Many express grave concerns about crimes, including drug and human trafficking, property and violent crime, gangs, and the massive and growing costs of illegals in social services, schools, medical services, and quality of life issues as enclaves of illegal immigrants failing to assimilate and instead becoming interest groups seeking to impact policy.
Law enforcement - local, state, and federal have drawn attention to increased presence of gangs and organized crime enterprises made up of illegals being seen in many areas.
National security concerns are being raised by officials from the FBI Director down about large numbers of nationals from countries with strong terrorist elements and from countries who are adversaries such as China.
Would you say that's more accurate, generally speaking?
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Very goood
Mar 15, 2024, 4:35 PM
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he didn't say what you said Republicans say.
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Yeah, who would say something like that?
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"When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."
But hey...some of them are good people, probably.
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"they're all fentanyl dealers, cannibals, murders, rapists, human traffickers,
Mar 15, 2024, 4:47 PM
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and criminals."
- Tiggity
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I think the only one Trump hasn't called them is cannibals
Mar 15, 2024, 5:08 PM
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But I was inspired by the OP.
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Re: The large majority of fentanyl in the US comes in through legal ports of entry,
Mar 15, 2024, 1:03 PM
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Not sure what you’re trying to prove here. I never said anything about how the fentanyl gets here. I did say something about where it’s coming from. Which is south of the border
I love how I make a post about an illegal immigrant who is a known mass murderer and dismembered her victims body and people like you make pointless arguments that have nothing to do with the post. In my mind, a logical person would think, hey, maybe we really need to do something about the border. Maybe Joe Biden shouldn’t have changed so many border policies and invited migrants. Seriously, the FBI director is even saying isis is coming through the border and forming terrorist cells in our country. When Trump was in office he said there are a lot of bad people who want to cross our borders. He was labeled xenophobic and racist. Turns out he was right. Instead you deflect and downplay the situation with a comment like, “Actually, most the fentanyl comes through legal ports of entry with American citizens.” How does anyone know that if they aren’t finding the fentanyl? How does anyone know about the fentanyl that’s getting through and not gettin seized? My main issue isn’t with the fentanyl it’s with the ease that these illegals are crossing the border. It’s with people who shouldn’t be here hurting citizens when we already have enough violence and hurt to deal with. It’s with bussing and flying illegals all over the country and housing them in our community centers. It’s be nice to stop fentanyl coming in but I don’t see how to do that knowing these cartels have submarines and planes.
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Re: The large majority of fentanyl in the US comes in through legal ports of entry,
Mar 15, 2024, 2:39 PM
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How did she get here and would the border wall have stopped her?
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Better question... How did she escape Mexican 'authorities'?***
Mar 16, 2024, 12:00 PM
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Please do. It would be real good for you to just stand on
Mar 15, 2024, 12:42 PM
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borderjustice.fox for long periods of time hitting refresh so you can continue your noble work posting it on the tigernet politics boards over and over and over again. Would be real useful.
As for where she got her drugs, don't know and don't care. Drugs are here, drugs are there, drugs are everywhere.
I'm just trying to be a bit more objective about the grand scheme of things rather than being all like ZOMG ILLEGALS ARE COMING IN EVERYWHERE WITH DRUGS AND KILLING PEOPLE AND NO ONE IS REPORTING IT as opposed to looking at actual facts and making resonable determinations from there.
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Also, and this may be of minor comfort to you,
Mar 15, 2024, 12:46 PM
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but cartels don't spend a whole lot of time and energy killing random citizens, as this brings unwanted and unnecessary attention from governments. The people they kill are almost exclusively also in the drug trade and from rival cartels/gangs, so, you know...bad people.
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Re: Also, and this may be of minor comfort to you,
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That's a lot less true than it used to be, though. The Sinaloas are old school but the Jalisco New Generation Cartel is apparently a pack of mad dogs and regularly kills politicians, reporters, police, judges, and entire busloads of ordinary citizens.
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Tagging he who is a denier
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Re: Tagging he who is a denier
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I'll step in and speak for Cata (even though he might not want me to) on a Friday in which he rarely shows up during the day. He has NEVER denied that there is a border problem. The only thing I've seen him "deny" is that all 10+ million illegals be stereotyped by the very few(i.e. the 3-4 that have been highlighted on this board) that are murderers. FWIW, I hope the same for me and all the white murderers out there and all the black folks that don't get highlighted by NC on his posts. I hope this helps you in some small way!
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Just because something is illegal
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Mar 15, 2024, 12:31 PM
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it does not mean you can just come right out and say it's "illegal". The people doing the illegal stuff may be offended.
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Re: Another murdering illegal caught in El Paso
Mar 15, 2024, 12:40 PM
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How many Americans did this person kill?
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ALL OF THEM. THE ONLY ONES THAT REMAIN ARE STILL FIGHTING
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THE GOOD FIGHT RIGHT HERE ON TIGERNET.POLITICS.
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Re: Another murdering illegal caught in El Paso
Mar 15, 2024, 1:06 PM
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Who knows? Who knows how long she was in America? Who knows who she was selling the drugs to? But hey you keep on fighting the good fight. These illegal murderers need a voice.
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Re: Another murdering illegal caught in El Paso
Mar 15, 2024, 1:31 PM
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Would the border wall have stopped her?
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A secure one, which the DimLibs do not want.***
Mar 15, 2024, 4:18 PM
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Cloud yeller.
Mar 15, 2024, 12:42 PM
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Lutz.
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There are plenty of heart-cutting-out
Mar 15, 2024, 1:12 PM
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bonafide USA citizen criminals, so what's the big deal?
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Re: There are plenty of heart-cutting-out
Mar 15, 2024, 1:22 PM
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Lol
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Re: Another murdering illegal caught in El Paso
Mar 15, 2024, 1:28 PM
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One down and about 4,999,999 to go
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