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TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 10:28 AM
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Man I hate the government.
Sep 21, 2021, 10:31 AM
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And little wannabe-Hitlers like this guy. What an a**.
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Re: Man I hate the government.
Sep 21, 2021, 11:24 AM
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Hate to tell you but the planner isn't Hitler. He does not make the rules, only has to "evaluate and enforce" them when a complaint is made. Poulson is the spokesperson here explaining the rule, not making it up as he goes along.
Keep in mind that Hitler was "elected". Same here. Town Council made these ordinances law, not the town planner.
I get being weary of government, but at least direct your criticism to the correct location.
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just following orders
Sep 21, 2021, 11:25 AM
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I said "wannabe"
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Re: just following orders
Sep 21, 2021, 11:33 AM
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Due, profession planners are about as far from that "wannabe hitlers" as you can get. Actually the inverse. Go talk with one, heck they are closer to being "minsters" in personality than anything.
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Orange Blooded [2203]
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Re: just following orders
Sep 22, 2021, 8:33 AM
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Just ####. #### go ruin medicine and leave us alone
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Re: just following orders
Sep 22, 2021, 8:56 AM
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Lol, I am a Clemson PhD (see avatar, that is me - Tiger with Three Stripes). Any digging and you might actually figure that out.
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Re: just following orders
Sep 22, 2021, 9:20 AM
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Charleston Tom, you are decidedly uninformed and truly representative of the Trump cult.
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Recruit [-100]
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As usual, some putz brings politics into it.....
Sep 27, 2021, 11:53 AM
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....Trump supporters wrecked the WH.
....Biden supporters burned down cities, destroyed public monuments, seized gov't and public property and threatened anyone who didn't comply.
GTF over yourself.
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Game Changer [1808]
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Re: just following orders
Sep 22, 2021, 11:17 AM
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Same kind of jerks that did not want Tiger Paws painted on the highways around Clemson in the 1970's.
Keep Hitler out of the conversation, but they are probably a democrat (socialist/communist) at heart. I'm not kidding....
I bet they want everyone tailgating or in Death Valley to have on a mask too!!
Go Bojangles, Clemson fans need to show our support. Bojangles sure supports Clemson!
Somebody in Pendleton talk some sense into those idiots.
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Re: Man I hate the government.
Sep 21, 2021, 12:58 PM
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I’m gonna guess you are a youngster, “futuredoc”. If not, I really don’t care, but I’m hoping you are too inexperienced to realize why your comments are irrelevant and unappreciated I’m matters such as these. You should direct your energy of criticism and education efforts toward the town council and the planner not the poster. The town of Clemson and all surrounding towns (Pendelton or others) have all benefited tremendously from our enthusiastic fan base. If that building is a violation then they should hold an emergency meeting to change the ordinance and the planner should have spear headed the effort! There is always someone more interested in defining the BS bureaucracy thank supporting the backlash. Good grief, don’t bother commenting if this is all you have.
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Re: Man I hate the government.
Sep 21, 2021, 2:12 PM
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If it was an issue with bureaucracy (ie not getting a permit because of excessive an unnecessary requirements during the permitting process) I would be in agreement. However, it is not the case.
Next, Pendleton is not my town council. They could require all building be painted pink for all I care. I am fairly involved with my own council (might have even voted too), and heck, Mrs Futuredoc used to work for the local governments Pickens/Oconee/Anderson while finishing graduate school.
Folks get really wish-washy about "which" laws or ordinances they want to obey. They blame the civil servant, not their own elected officials. Fair enough. However, this is akin to attacking the "tax-man" over your "tax-rate" or berating a waiter because you have grief with the owner. It isn't productive nor is making an informed local decision.
However, your post is incredibly naive if you think the process works that way. First, the council would have the direct the planner to being forth an amendment (or they could strike it down/revoke it on their own accord). Planner are more technical if value jobs and tend to stay away from creating political stink. This is where Poulson is a messenger explaining the ordinance/violation, not the author. Next, they can't control the message (freedom of speech issue). Keep in mind, they can control the medium of speech within a limit (ie size, etc), but they can't say "Tigers only, no coots". In addition, those changes would apply universally, and thus you could have building with whatever messages.
Here is the other thing, Bojangles could have easily asked for a temporary variance and I bet it would be grated unless council really had a rod up its bum.
But again, it isn't some local employee deciding what they want, they are just explaining the ordinance. If it was, I would be right there with you with the pitchfork. Otherwise, until you show me that the local planner stepped beyond his designated role, I am not going to complain about him. I won't trust him, but that isn't the point of blame. If he ignored it, there might be some cause.
here is the other thing... remember dabo's speeding ticket? Dabo has done a lot for us but was he correctly cited for speeding. Yes. 63 in a 35. Do we change the speed law because of him. Nope. However, the cop was canned... not because he wrote the ticket but because he went beyond the scope and posted/commented publicly on the clock without authorization.
The planner is not doing anything beyond the scope here.
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Re: Man I hate the government.
Sep 22, 2021, 5:02 AM
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I got news for yah. The Nazis were only following the rules/orders they were given. Doesn’t mean they still weren’t murdering and thieving SOB. The change isn’t gory, graphic, or offensive so what’s the problem? Just cause a Coot gets butt hurt doesn’t mean you have to cater life to them. Police can enforce going 1 mile over the speed limit but they don’t. Why cause that would be ridiculous just like this rule this guy is trying to enforce.
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Re: Man I hate the government.
Sep 22, 2021, 9:02 AM
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Executing zoning ordinances and exterminating people is a wildly different item.
Next, Bojangles could have easily avoid this by requesting a variance.
Next, do you think wrapping a whole building is 1mph over? I mean, if their sign was 61sqft when the regulations said 60sqft, they might not be called out. But to use you example, they are doing 50 over with disco lighting. That is going to create attention.
Again, the town planner is not the "enforcer" here. Other than code enforcement and that is more on building code etc, you really don't go out looking. I bet some uppty citizen started calling their council member over it. Or even similar/neighboring property owners.
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Re: Man I hate the government.
Sep 22, 2021, 11:28 AM
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Speaking as a property owner in Pendleton, the town is more of a pain in the butt than HOA's that I have been a part of. Hitler may be going to far, but they are either selective enforcing their rules or they send out A LOT of letters. I am renovating an old mill house and have gotten 2 letters when demo'd materials or construction materials have gotten spread out. I got another before I hired someone to cut the grass because it got high while I was out of the country for a little over a month.
I am pretty sure that I have not gotten complaints from my immediate neighbors because they are appreciative that I am fixing the house up. There are a lot of places around Pendleton that are in worse shape than mine. I understand the goal, and they may be in the right legally (the ordinances that they quoted for me were a little on the vague and ambiguous side), but they are certainly more active than other places that I have dealt with.
It very well may be counterproductive, because I won't renovate anything in Pendleton again. I would say that it isn't worth the hassle, but it has more been just not wanting to hear the nagging. By the time I received the letters, what I think they were objectionable to was already taken care of or I had planned to do what I think they wanted done. I was never actually cited.
It just seems to me that the town is trying to support a larger municipal government than the population would dictate. My water bill is twice what it is for my personal house. I assume that some of these letters actually end up with citations. Legally, I don't know what the outcome will be with Bojangle's but it seems to me to be blackmail for a variance. Otherwise, news would not have come out from someplace other than Bojangle's. Just my 2 cents.
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amazinghow much people DON'T know about hitler
Sep 21, 2021, 7:50 PM
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but will quickly call someone a Hitler
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The more I learn about him, the more I think
Sep 22, 2021, 8:42 AM
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he was a real jerk.
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Everybody hates government rules
Sep 23, 2021, 9:10 AM
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Until all of a sudden it affects them directly. I can tell you from experience that city ordinances regarding signage and building colors are there primarily because without them, businesses would make every street and neighborhood look like Times Square.
What amazes me more is how worked up people get about this kind of ridiculous trivial stuff, like all of a sudden Pendleton hates Clemson and Bojangles. They don't. They're just telling a business to abide by the same rules that literally every other business in the town has to abide by, and has done so for decades.
In the meantime, Bojangles is loving the publicity and absoutely laps it up. They'll probably pay those fines happily, with a giant sh1t-eating grin on their faces.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 10:32 AM
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Like I said it is becoming a liberal #### hole. What the hell is a sign hurting? Must be a #### coot because no Clemson fan would try to enforce such stupidity.
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Nope, Clemson grad.***
Sep 21, 2021, 11:04 AM
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Re: Nope, Clemson grad.***
Sep 21, 2021, 11:05 AM
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Makes it even worse.
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Re: Nope, Clemson grad.***
Sep 21, 2021, 11:28 AM
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Clemson Planning!
https://www.clemson.edu/caah/academics/cpred/city-and-regional-planning/index.html ">Clemson University is a leading public research institution located in Upstate South Carolina. Here, researchers create solutions that change the world.
Meh, these ordinances always cut both ways and planner normally don't get to act on a lot of their own opinions/beliefs. That is determined by the elected councils etc. I bet Poulson is likely "fine" with the building on this point but he can't act on personal items. He has to take what the town council signed it into law and judge impartially once a complaint is made.
Again, some coot could wrap their outhouse and be told to take it down. Othertimes folks will rant, kick and scream when you don't have an ordinance like this and the local cathouse puts up BIG "advertisements" on the side of the road.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 1:08 PM
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Umm...
Think you and your wife might need to have another talk. He's the Clemson grad... Just doing his job it appears. Maybe a coot is who filed the complaint... But Poulson is not a Gamecock.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-a-poulson-6a2b694b
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 3:18 PM
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Whitehurst, you are truly ignorant about this, so I just pray you’re not a Clemson grad. Did you know, for example, that the school has or had the only Masters Program in City and Regional planning in the state? Often it is professionals who come out of that program who write zoning ordinances, enforce the codes, etc. They do not do politics. By the way, it is extremely common for cities and towns to employ zoning ordinances that regulate signage along with land use, etc. They do not and cannot regulate content of signs. A planner can not pick and choose what an owner can put on a building based on who they are or who they represent. Period. This is not about Clemson. It is about a community trying to achieve appearance and other standards. In addition has it ever occurred to you that massive signs can create a dangerous distraction for passing motorists? No I’m sure it never occurred to, because your thought process is Trumpian, which translates into completely thoughtless.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 3:18 PM
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Whitehurst, you are truly ignorant about this, so I just pray you’re not a Clemson grad. Did you know, for example, that the school has or had the only Masters Program in City and Regional planning in the state? Often it is professionals who come out of that program who write zoning ordinances, enforce the codes, etc. They do not do politics. By the way, it is extremely common for cities and towns to employ zoning ordinances that regulate signage along with land use, etc. They do not and cannot regulate content of signs. A planner can not pick and choose what an owner can put on a building based on who they are or who they represent. Period. This is not about Clemson. It is about a community trying to achieve appearance and other standards. In addition has it ever occurred to you that massive signs can create a dangerous distraction for passing motorists? No I’m sure it never occurred to, because your thought process is Trumpian, which translates into completely thoughtless.
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Dynasty Maker [3354]
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Or maybe he's enforcing the law?
Sep 21, 2021, 10:37 AM
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Honestly, I wouldn't think a law like that would be in the books, but BOJ should have verified with building code.
We seem to be forgetting the laws when it doesn't push the agenda you want.
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Re: Or maybe he's enforcing the law?
Sep 21, 2021, 10:43 AM
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Exactly
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Re: Or maybe he's enforcing the law?
Sep 21, 2021, 10:51 AM
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Yeah let's allow illegal immigrants into the country but we must keep everyone safe by not allowing more than 2 signs. Yeah great reasoning there.
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Stuff like this is done to protect property values
Sep 21, 2021, 11:00 AM
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9You don't want some guy putting up a barn just to have 90 ads.
Bojangles can remove clemson and leave the building orange. We all know what it means.
I'm surprised bojangles let them do this. Franchisees are usually pretty rigid on the way thier buildings look.
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Re: Stuff like this is done to protect property values
Sep 21, 2021, 11:03 AM
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I agree with that but we are talking about a restaurant with a business license not a barn or a double wide.
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Ultimate Tiger [33638]
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like any other rule.. the innocent are punished because
Sep 21, 2021, 11:11 AM
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of the guilty
I've seen HOA go both ways. I Gotta say, i'd rather have stricter HOA then relaxed even though it is a PITA requesting permission every time you want to plant a bush.
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Re: like any other rule.. the innocent are punished because
Sep 21, 2021, 12:10 PM
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I would rather not have some stupid hoa its my if I want a hole in my yard I will if I want my grass a different length I will I enjoy freedom hoa for non Americans keep bojangles the way it is
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HOAs suck, but so do bad neighbors.
Sep 22, 2021, 8:08 AM
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IMO they are a necessary evil. I've never lived in a neighborhood with a really tyrannical HOA though - like the ones that have to measure every plant that goes in the ground and such.
For the most part it's the same basic stuff. Don't park boats and RVs in your driveway or on the street in front of your house, don't fill your yard with old junk, mow your grass occasionally, don't let your house turn green, etc.
I support that stuff because I don't want a neighbor with broken down cars on blocks and 3 foot high grass and weeds next door if it ever comes time for me to sell.
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Oculus Spirit [39224]
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My neighbor has a junkyard
Sep 22, 2021, 1:06 PM
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IDGAF. Tank my property value 10% or whatever over having some nosy ####### tell me what to do with my property. Who gives a #### if their neighbor has an RV and where they park it? ######## that’s who.
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Re: My neighbor has a junkyard
Sep 22, 2021, 1:28 PM
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Shrug, that is called "freedom'. Private citizens are able to enter into an agreement via property deeding to keep things the way they want. They are free to do so and the government can't tell them no.
There is always a tradeoff with zoning/HOA. You lose something to gain something. Some people would scrafice a lot to prevent my purple house.
I don't have a HOA. My house is painted purple and an orange (door) with green accents. Ironically, it does very well blending into the woods in both the spring and summer. This would be prohibited in some communities. However, my Dookie neighbors can paint their house blue, etc. To each their own. Some places get as far as what roof/materials you use or even disallowing any changes. Go ask Charleston about their rules.
The last I heard, most of Anderson County is unzoned. This would be a non-issue if outside of Pendleton unless Anderson has updating things since I was last there or has other building codes like this. However, Bo chose to build and be in Pendleton so they have to play by their rules. Shrug.
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Re: HOAs suck, but so do bad neighbors.
Sep 22, 2021, 1:18 PM
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HOA's never have never will. Own the land around you and your neighbor down the road isnt such a concern.
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Re: LMAO I've never seen anyone defend an HOA
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Say what you will about the HOA but they keep the property value up for everyone when administered correctly. I don’t have an hoa in my neighborhood but sometimes wish I did when one of my neighbors does something stupid. Luckily we got an old conservative fart who will badger them until they clean up whatever messes they made.
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Re: Stuff like this is done to protect property values
Sep 21, 2021, 11:57 AM
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Yeah, but sometimes you have to spell out stooopid for folks. Take other provisions:
"No sign shall be erected at any location where it may interfere with, obstruct the view of,
or be confused with any authorized traffic sign, signal or device. No sign with a rotating
beam, beacon, strobe or flashing illumination resembling any emergency lights shall
make use of the words “STOP," “LOOK,” “DANGER" or any other word, phrase,
symbol or character in such a manner as to interfere with, mislead or confuse traffic."
or this one to prohibit the local swingers and bicurious from advertising their wares
"No sign shall contain statements, words or pictures of an obscene, indecent or immoral
character, such as will offend public morals or decency."
I personally avoided any neighborhood with an HOA. Hard to do in some spots. It has their downsides but I live with 'em. But to each their own.
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That’s a rationalization that has been Grossly over used!
Sep 21, 2021, 12:09 PM
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That Bojangles is in a commercial district it’s not harming your property values.
Protecting property values is the rationalization that every HOA uses to abuse their authority and act like dictators to property owners.
People in government, be it federal state or local, as well as homeowners associations, school boards, etc. have gotten out of control! They love their power and control! They get off on it and the people that are involved in those things are petty power-hungry little people. But their biggest sin is forgetting that the very people they are attacking are the people that pay them!
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Re: Or maybe he's enforcing the law?
Sep 23, 2021, 9:11 AM
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I didn't realize the town of Pendleton was responsible for federal immigration laws. Interesting.
You sure are getting your panties in a wad about a town ordinance that 100% of the people on this board had no idea existed until about a week ago.
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Who cares what winners of popularity contests write down
Sep 21, 2021, 10:58 AM
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on fancy paper? Seriously? If the people don't like it, they won't go to Bo, and it won't be around long.
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110%er [6825]
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Re: Who cares what winners of popularity contests write down
Sep 21, 2021, 11:37 AM
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IDK, democracy?
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Not really
Sep 21, 2021, 12:22 PM
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99% of this BS is actually not law.
They are ordinances.
There is a distinct difference because an ordinance is something enacted by an official government body which has a certain amount of authority but it is not a law passed by a legislative body. And what typically happens is these executive branch bureaucratic organizations are run by people that love power and control and they want to make the world in the image they prefer. And they always go too far.
Same with all of these mandates around Covid. A president or a governor can’t just say do something and people have to do it. That’s a dictator that’s not true legislation, which is why all of this nonsense loses when it gets to the courts.
Sooner or later any organization with power and control becomes corrupt and go too far and people have to push back and fight back.
But what makes it more difficult for people to push back and fight back is all the good little rules followers making excuses and rationalizations. The go along to get along crowd. TigerNet is full of good proper people like that.
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Re: Not really
Sep 21, 2021, 2:17 PM
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You really should just google "Is ordnance a law" or whatever before a post. Actually just google everything before poasting.
Here is the spoiler:
Ordinance" A law, statute, or regulation enacted by a MUNICIPAL CORPORATION.
That must make it difficult to be a coot. They have public nudity ordinances in most places. If Nekked, you are in violation of municipal law.
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Oculus Spirit [39224]
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Hard to sit on your authoritarian high horse and talk down
Sep 22, 2021, 4:56 AM
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to people when you can't ####### spell "post."
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Re: Hard to sit on your authoritarian high horse and talk down
Sep 22, 2021, 8:54 AM
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I also mispelled nekked - naked. And then used the work "poast" - for an old timer I would think you would get that.
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Campus Hero [13551]
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well said! Also, f*** democracy.***
Sep 21, 2021, 9:49 PM
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Re: Not really
Sep 22, 2021, 9:33 AM
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Lowcntry, you don’t know what you’re talking about. Not a clue. Have you ever taken a course in government? An ordinance is a local law. Yes, it has force of law. Duh! The people who pass these ordinances are local citizens who happen to serve on local governing bodies. They are working to protect their communities. You are obviously a Trumper, and that’s frightening. Can’t you remember that Trump once said he had the power to do whatever he chose? He loves dictators. He proved it every day of his administration. You really need to get educated . Else you are supporting the end of democracy as we know it in America. Not hard to see if you’re truly paying attention.
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1st Rounder [645]
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Re: Not really
Sep 22, 2021, 1:24 PM
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Does that drum your ridiculously endlessly beating have a hole in it yet?
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Freshman [-94]
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But it’s often not the law.
Sep 21, 2021, 12:02 PM
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Saying something is the law doesn’t make it right. That is stupid logic. There are laws on the books from 50 years ago even 100 years ago that people decide simply not to enforce because they are stupid laws.
A lot of what you see is actually an ordinance which is not a law because it hasn’t properly been passed by legislation. Like all of these mandates surrounding Covid. Those are not laws and when they get pushed in court they lose because they are unconstitutional.
Simply saying it’s the law is dumb and ignorant. That doesn’t make it right it doesn’t make it moral doesn’t make it legal doesn’t make it constitutional.
People are sick and tired of seeing real laws broken every day in ways that harm America while people that are working hard raising a family minding their own business have to deal with this kind of nitpicky intrusion in their lives from big government.
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Orange Blooded [2588]
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Re: But it’s often not the law.
Sep 21, 2021, 12:06 PM
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You're a sad and unstable person aren't you...
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Re: But it’s often not the law.
Sep 21, 2021, 3:37 PM
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pheewwwwww.... case in point "stupid logic"
Cites "old laws" not enforces, brings up constitutions. Yikes.
The age of a law does not determine its validity.... otherwise the constitution would be in serious trouble.v Laws remain in effect until revoked or ammended or if there is a provision for sunsetting.
FYI, as a Libertarian, I think all government programs, if not laws should have a sunset date.
However, ordinances are a part of the constitution - huh, what? You need to take your 10th amendment work.
Powers not given to delegated or prohibited to the states remain with the states. Thus the states can then delegate other powers to how it incorporates and delegates to municipal and county governments. Thus you have Dillon and Home Rule states. Depending if it is home rule (south carolina is, nc is dillon) will help determine what types of powers a local government can use and what laws it can pass.
Zoning in this case is clearly law and supported by Supreme Court cases although it has limits. See Euclid vs Amber Reality. The key to all zone is it can't take everything without compensation (Lucas vvs South Carolina (although flood zones etc might have some effect) and they have to be within the police power. Health Safety, Morals and General Welfare.
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Dynasty Maker [3354]
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Well, the color of a building code violation quickly
Sep 21, 2021, 12:23 PM
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Escalated to immigration laws ?? ??
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 10:46 AM
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Interesting they pick on a DJ sponsor.
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Valley Protector [1475]
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 10:46 AM
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Does this town have a name?
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Ultimate Tiger [33249]
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Pendleton***
Sep 21, 2021, 10:54 AM
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Clemson Icon [24064]
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Wonder why they haven't received notice ?
Sep 21, 2021, 10:57 AM
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May not be as against the law as the local political hack told TV ? Typical. Paperwork will have to cite the law,not opinion and feelings LOL
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Re: Wonder why they haven't received notice ?
Sep 21, 2021, 11:42 AM
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http://www.town.pendleton.in.us/wp-content/uploads/158.10.pdf
Here is my guess (bold)
158.10.07 Permanent Nonexempt Signs - Regulations by Sign Type A. Ground Signs 1. A ground sign which is 16 feet or more in area may be displayed only on a frontage
of 100 feet or more, and may not be closer than 100 feet to any other ground sign
which is six feet or more in area.
2. All ground signs must be set back at least 5 feet from the edge of the right-of-way.
B. Wall Signs 1. Wall signs may be painted on or attached to the wall but must not project from the wall by more than 12 inches and must not interrupt architectural details.
2. A wall sign that is either a boxed sign or individual letters, placed in a space between
windows, may not exceed a dimension two-thirds of the distance between the closest
edges of the windows.
3. Wall signs may extend to 20 feet from ground level or to the peak of the building,
whichever is lower, on highways with posted driving speeds of 45 miles per hour or
less. Wall signs may extend to the peak of a building on highways with posted
driving speeds of 45 miles per hour or more with the following height limitations:
a. A wall sign displayed by an activity on the first story may not extend above the
window sill of the second story.
158.10 b. A wall sign displayed by an activity above the first story may be no higher than
the window sill of the third story.
c. If a building has two or more stories, a wall sign displayed by activities
featuring live entertainment on the premises and by places of assembly seating
200 or more may extend up to but no higher than the peak of the building.
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Re: Wonder why they haven't received notice ?
Sep 21, 2021, 11:54 AM
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Correction - this is the issue. I think... not my area of expertise but I try and do my research
Maximum area of any advertising sign is sixty (60) square feet. Other provisions of this code may reduce that area.
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Oculus Spirit [39224]
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Not permanent, and not advertising.***
Sep 22, 2021, 4:59 AM
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Re: Not permanent, and not advertising.***
Sep 22, 2021, 8:53 AM
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Its a vinyl wrap, not chalk. It is actually "permanent" aka durable even it might not be intended that way.
Oh yeah, its advertising.
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1st Rounder [645]
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Re: Not permanent, and not advertising.***
Sep 22, 2021, 1:31 PM
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Paint is permanent. A wrap? No.
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110%er [6825]
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Re: Not permanent, and not advertising.***
Sep 22, 2021, 1:44 PM
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Depending on the quality, vinyl wraps last 5+ years and can even bake in on southern facades. That is considered permanent. Really anything that could last "a season" can be considered permanent. Really, anything that stands up to weather could be considered permanent. Some paints don't even last that long.
Just because if a property owner makes something out of non-treated lumber vs treated lumber does not make it permanent or temporary.
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All-TigerNet [5860]
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He may be referring to legal notice ....
Sep 22, 2021, 8:31 AM
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which is something in writing, whether a warning letter, or warning citation .. that cites the zoning ordinance code violation ...
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Ultimate Tiger [33372]
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Wouldn't wanna be that guy's voice mail or email inbox...
Sep 21, 2021, 11:05 AM
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Bet he is hearing it lol
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Re: Wouldn't wanna be that guy's voice mail or email inbox...
Sep 21, 2021, 11:22 AM
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davidp@townofpendleton.org
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Legend [6780]
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 11:17 AM
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I would imagine Bojangles is all in because I bet they have plans for stores in other college towns to “bid” on which one gets to be associated with the university when there are several in an area.
As for vinyl signs, I don’t see how anything affixed to the building and not breaking the physical outline of that building qualifies as a sign.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 11:37 AM
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Bojangles should be allowed to keep this just the way it is. Go Tigers! Go Bojangles!
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 12:13 PM
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Bojangles Should just demand a religious exemption.
Dear Lord, please protect our boys, make our coaches smart and allow our can of whoop-ass to forever overflow. Amen, pass the chicken.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 12:36 PM
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I wish I was close by so I could run over there and put in a big order. I love what the franchise owner did here and would love to support them. To me, it’s stuff like this that makes college football as special as it is. I see this as the flip side to the NIL coin, local businesses supporting local teams in their own communities. If anyone is local and can stop in to place a bunch of $2 (bill) orders and help this business out, that’s some all in support and a positive way to stick it to David Poulson and his crew. Go Tigers!!
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 12:48 PM
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They should just ask for a temporary waiver (60-90 days) from the city council. Football season will be over in a couple of months.
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Recruit [-100]
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 27, 2021, 12:12 PM
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Correction; football season is pretty much over, now. (LOL)
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"Town"
Sep 21, 2021, 12:52 PM
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To be fair, David Poulson is NOT synonymous with the entire city of Clemson, SC.
Let it go, or let Bojangles pay the fine & give Clemson a little extra bread. Go Tigers!
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Orange Blooded [2517]
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 1:41 PM
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Beat them at their game: Put “Bojangles” and “Clemson” on the same sign.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 4:24 PM
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Laws separate us from other nations.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 5:45 PM
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My question is , is the Town of Pendleton questioning the banners that were on side of road, or the new paint scheme on the building? Banners and canopy up along side of road I can understand, because they did hinder the view of northbound traffic on Hwy. 76 leaving Bojangles. I picked up tailgate from there at 1030. It was difficult to see around banners to get out of their parking lot.
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Team Captain [482]
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 21, 2021, 5:45 PM
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My question is , is the Town of Pendleton questioning the banners that were on side of road, or the new paint scheme on the building? Banners and canopy up along side of road I can understand, because they did hinder the view of northbound traffic on Hwy. 76 leaving Bojangles. I picked up tailgate from there at 1030. It was difficult to see around banners to get out of their parking lot.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 22, 2021, 2:26 AM
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I done sent David Poulson, Town Planner/Administrator, an email to let him know that Clemson Fans will, henceforth, be skipping right over Pendleton, to visit the Bojangles in Clemson, on their way to ballgames.
PLEASE DO NOT MAKE ME A LIAR ON THIS ONE!!!
SKIP IT!!! If you normally stop at Bojangles (a Tremendous Corporate of College Football) in Pendleton, just keep goin' and hit the one in Clemson!
If you're comin' from Greenville, hit the Smokin' Pig in either Easley or Williamston. Dat stuff's yummy!
Let's make sure this bureaucrat is made to see the error of his Anti-Capalist, Anti-Business, Anti-Clemson, Anti-Clemson Tiger Football, Anti-Fried Chicken, Anti-Dirty Rice, Anti-Sweet Tea ways.
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Freshman [9]
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 22, 2021, 3:03 AM
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Okay. Can't edit/correct my post.
You know what I'm sayin', though. Right?
And, by the way... The Murdaugh Family were (and the two of them that are left are) Gamecocks Fans.
Gotta admit... That makes me happy!
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Ultimate Tiger [33249]
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WAIT ! ! !? ? ? Are you saying to SKIP OVER the Bojangles
Sep 22, 2021, 2:00 PM
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in Pendleton that has this awesome Clemson wrap - cut into that store's sales - to PUNISH the City of Pendleton ? ? ?
If so - YEP - your User Name checks out COMPLETELY ! ! ! !
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 22, 2021, 7:04 AM
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Tell him to go pound sand.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 22, 2021, 9:32 AM
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You all are making way too big a deal over this. I'm sure the City of Clemson has similar restrictions over sign size and what buildings look like. Most cities do. They want their towns to not be an eye sore with out of control advertising and signage. The same people on here complaining every time downtown Clemson changes with a mid rise apartment building.Probably why the Clemson Bojangles wasn't wrapped. Its all temporary anyway. Not like they painted the brick.
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Re: TNET: Bojangles responds to town wanting them to take down Clemson-themed design
Sep 22, 2021, 1:02 PM
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The city council was voted in and they can be voted out. You can't tell me that the city couldn't amend the ordinance for such a cause
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Game Day Hero [4121]
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Where is this Bojangles again?
Sep 27, 2021, 12:00 PM
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I assumed it was in Clemson, but I don't see Clemson having an issue with it.
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Recruit [-100]
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Karen Theory
Sep 27, 2021, 12:01 PM
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According to this post below...a single complaint was made.
https://www.thestate.com/news/state/south-carolina/article254461338.html
I'd put MONEY on it that this "complaint" was from some Karen that works in or with the office....
Look for the usual suspect: fatty, drives a large SUV, carries a larger phone, social-media rat, has no clue how to mind own business.
If seen, please kick in the box.
Go Tigers!
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