Re: Someone finally asked my question....but not fully. Answer given, again not

Tiggity® · 2025-04-28T16:34:08.501Z

addressing the issue. But it's a good start. Trump still is in the mode of not expecting further elections. Interesting how he sees Canada as a vast store of natural resources, yet he completely ignores the people. "Given Canada breaks 80/20 for the dems (Harris against him specifically) in multiple polls), and would pick up about 44 House seats, how do you feel about that?"....is the full question I'd ask. https://x.com/stevegrubershow/status/1916886953720508650

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In other news....where's the "art" in this deal?

Apr 28, 2025, 12:39 PM

Russia has officially declared its conditions for ending the war, according to MFA Lavrov in an interview with a Brazilian newspaper:

1. Demilitarization and denazification of Ukraine;
2. Ukraine must not join NATO;
3. International recognition of the annexation of Crimea, Donetsk, Luhansk, Kherson, and Zaporizhzhia;
4. Lifting of sanctions against Russia and the return of frozen assets;
5. Rejection by Russia of the U.S. proposal to transfer control over the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant to Washington and Ukraine;
6. Cancellation of language laws in Ukraine, especially those that "restrict" the use of the "Russian language, culture, and church".

https://mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/news/2011929/

Question: On what terms would Russia agree to come to the negotiation table with Ukraine at this point?

Sergey Lavrov: I have already given you part of the answer to this question. It was Kiev which withdrew from the negotiating process in April 2022. It acted this way at the request of its Western curators. In September of the same year, Vladimir Zelensky outlawed all talks with Russia. This piece of legislation remains in force. It must be cancelled. Otherwise, talks cannot resume. In his recent interview with CBS, Vladimir Zelensky once again spoke out against talks with Russia. Let me quote his words: “We can't trust Russia. It's that we can't trust negotiations with Russia.”

We have made no secret regarding our position on the settlement. Russia proceeds from the premise that Kiev’s non-accession to NATO, as well as reaffirming its neutral and non-aligned status as per the 1990 Declaration on Ukraine’s State Sovereignty – these factors form one of the two pillars for a final settlement to the Ukraine crisis that would meet Russia’s security interests. The second pillar consists of overcoming the legacy of the neo-Nazi regime which took power in Kiev after the February 2014 putsch, including the initiative by its perpetrators to eradicate and cancel, in both physical and legislative terms, everything Russian, be it the Russian language, media, culture, traditions, or the canonical Orthodox faith.

The international recognition of Crimea, Sevastopol, the DPR, the LPR, the Kherson and Zaporozhye regions as part of Russia is another imperative.

All the commitments Kiev assumes must be legally binding, contain enforcement mechanisms and be permanent.

Demilitarising and de-Nazifying Ukraine is also on the agenda, along with lifting sanctions, withdrawing lawsuits and cancelling arrest warrants, as well as returning Russian assets subjected to the so-called freeze in the West.

We will also insist on obtaining solid security guarantees for the Russian Federation in order to shield it from any threats emanating from hostile activities by NATO, the European Union and some of their member states along our western border.

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This list is just surrender. I guess credit Russia...they know that Trump is

In other news....where's the "art" in this deal?

Trump, Vance & Rubio can co-author The Art of Surrender.***

desperate for a deal and has no moral compass. They know he just wants credit for ending the war...any future attacks will be someone else's fault, naturally. If it's during his administration, it will be Zelensky's (or whoever replaces him) fault. If it is after he leaves, obviously it will be someone in the next administration (especially if it isn't his guy).

So, might as well shoot for maximalist terms. Run until you're tackled, as they say.

The terms are, of course, laughable.

1. Demilitarization and denazification - fantastic. They put the home run hitter in lead off. Demilitarization because they have the right to attack it (and they will) whenever they want, and they'd rather not have another hassle. Denazification might as well be "All closets must be certified as boogeyman free". It means nothing. There's no specific Nazi issue in Ukraine. Russia's leadership knows that but they also know their citizens see Nazis in their Nutty Buddies...if they could afford Nutty Buddies.

2. Ukraine in NATO...another laughable criteria, bold in its obviousness. Russia does not (so far) invade NATO. Until recently, he knows he'd get his ### kicked. At this point, exactly one country in NATO is against Ukraine joining NATO...and that's us. And since we are an unreliable ally, I see no reason why Ukraine couldn't agree to this...Europe needs to drop NATO and adopt a European Security Alliance and invite Ukraine to join immediately.

3. Surrender. Plus a green light to go further once Russia has recovered from this war...if they recover.

4. Of course.

5. Of course.

6. Of course.

Europe...led by UK, France, Germany (with the new leadership) and Poland must take firm, bold action to ensure Ukrainian victory. It can be done and the whole world will be better off when they do.

Someone finally asked my question....but not fully. Answer given, again not

In other news....where's the "art" in this deal?

Re: In other news....where's the "art" in this deal?

This list is just surrender. I guess credit Russia...they know that Trump is

Trump, Vance & Rubio can co-author The Art of Surrender.***

This list is just surrender. I guess credit Russia...they know that Trump is

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