Re: solution for Tillman Hall controversy.

Motor City Bengal · 2015-07-08T19:25:22.374Z

Since we all know that the Pitchfork Ben legacy is not going to go away, especially now with the rebel flag issue, why not go ahead and rename Tillman Hall the Dabobama Center. That way the most beloved and revered football coach in Clemson history has his Alabama roots recognized, and also credit and honor is given to one of our most successful (successful in pushing through his agenda and programs), modern presidents. Looks like a complete win-win to me, and not one person could object to that name while playing the race card.

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Jul 8, 2015, 8:33 PM

Over many decades Duke, Davidson and Furman all have received significant money from the Duke Endowment which was founded by James B. (Buck) Duke. Buck's daddy, Washington, fought for the South in the Civil War. After the Civil War Buck's initial fortune was made raising tobacco on the family's farm in NC. He expanded that business into making machine-made cigarettes which led to the formation of the American Tobacco Company, the largest cigarette company in the world at that time.

So if we (Clemson) are suppose to "cleanse our history" (sarc) then these other fine institutions should do likewise for having founders who actually fought in the Civil War AND made their foutune by making and selling cigarettes which undoubtedly contributed to major health problems to millions of unsuspecting people.

Obviously, I don't expect such a response from Duke, Davidson or Furman, nor do I advocate any changes at Clemson, & nor do I have a real problem with how the Duke Endowment was started. Buck Duke also invested in energy by forming Duke Power Co. which allowed him to grow the endowment. My point is that historically our founders were not perfect people. Changing building names won't change history. Our focus should be to learn from the past and live our FUTURE lives in the best way possible.

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being alive today will be long gone to the hereafter or whereafter or no after, depending upon one's beliefs, and hence, what we say or do now may well be considered to be irrelevant to our succeeding generations.

They no doubt will cast wary eyes toward our history, while considering themselves lucky to be living in their own time.

Meanwhile, our ashes will be melded into the ages of the earth signifying the relative brotherhood of all men, for as the old saying goes: we rise from the earth, and we return to the earth...and the earth makes no distinction between men.

With that in mind I imagine a whole lot of folks probably should cast a little more friendly glance at their neighbors before uttering certain words usually considered highly inflammable.

And as for ole Ben Tillman...I wouldn't be at all surprised if that old pitchfork might be somewhat redhot with flames leaping from the tines, for as another old saying goes: The Devil must've been in him...."

solution for Tillman Hall controversy.

here's a better one

Re: here's a better one

Grandpa, did you forget to take your meds again?

Go get a job

Posts like this help me understand why there was lynching

Here's one

I remember a gamecock poster from FGF

Dabo wil NEVER be as revered in Clemson football......

Even if he wins multiple NC's?***

Re: Dabo wil NEVER be as revered in Clemson football......

An entirely premature assessment....

Re: Dabo wil NEVER be as revered in Clemson football......

Don't know, but he is off to a good start and is

That may be true today, but he is well on his way !***