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That sucks you should post a number where fans can call.***
Dec 13, 2014, 3:48 PM
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Maybe we can send him some bowl faxes. Jerk***
Dec 13, 2014, 5:01 PM
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I lived in the Groves for a year, and the guy is a jerk.***
Dec 13, 2014, 4:15 PM
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Comments sent. What a jerk.***
Dec 13, 2014, 5:00 PM
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Re: My comment was submitted too C/O Scrooge***
Dec 13, 2014, 5:50 PM
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Lol , get half of the story and pass judgment. I hope in time it comes out how long the man in the military stayed there and what he failed to do.
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Re: My comment was submitted too C/O Scrooge***
Dec 13, 2014, 5:53 PM
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Or maybe it will come out what his wife failed to do
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yeah, facts really help a lost PR case these days
Dec 13, 2014, 6:05 PM
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do you even pay attention to current events? This is a lost cause for the landlord now that the media has grabbed it.
All for a couple extra bucks. Shame.
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18 posts total. 14 in the last few days responding to threads
Dec 15, 2014, 9:37 AM
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about this d-bag landlord. You must either be the landlord or close to him. Either way:
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My wife lived there when we were dating
Dec 13, 2014, 6:35 PM
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When the place was first built. The rule then was something like no one could stay that was not a tenant more than 3 nights and if you knew someone was going to be staying there was a form you filled out and turned in prior to their arrival.
This was written in the lease agreement in a small section that nobody read. We found out about it after a letter was left on the door and we had to pay extra for the time I had already stayed without giving notice (and I was helping pay rent even though I was not living there as I was working and she was still in school).
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I get why they have this rule-it is necessary near a campus
Dec 13, 2014, 6:52 PM
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or you'd have 12 students living in a 2 bedroom apartment. Very applicable rule in most cases, and the property management is wise to have such a stipulation.
But with a married couple - a military man on leave seeing his wife and child -- AT CHRISTMAS --- this rule is just not applicable and should be waived, or just looked past in this instance. With all the kind things people around the country are doing for military personnel these days, this just looks awful.
A free months rent would be the first step in making amends here. Landlord is NOT gonna win this PR battle.
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Re: I get why they have this rule-it is necessary near a campus
Dec 13, 2014, 7:24 PM
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This.
I agree with the rules and I said on another thread, if I was responsible for paying water, electric, etc in my rental units, I'd probably have the same rules.
But, the guy in question is on leave from the military. He won't be there long. Just look the other way, landlord.
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Re: I get why they have this rule-it is necessary near a campus
Dec 13, 2014, 7:26 PM
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I also wonder if the landlord worries about discrimination suits. If he allows the soldier to stay rent free, someone WILL claim discrimination if he doesn't do the same for them.
Sucks but that is another thing to worry about when renting properties.
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Re: My wife lived there when we were dating
Dec 13, 2014, 7:29 PM
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I have visited a friend that lived in similar apartments up in Asheville. I couldn't even park my car on the premises without a parking pass.
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Re: Soldier Visiting Wife Living @ The Groves in Central booted
Dec 13, 2014, 6:43 PM
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Find a better source than Faux News and I might be a little more upset.
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Re: Soldier Visiting Wife Living @ The Groves in Central booted
Dec 13, 2014, 6:47 PM
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wis in cola also reporting it
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You're a special kind of stupid
Dec 13, 2014, 7:52 PM
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It isn't spun like a typical mainstream media story and is reported from Fox Carolina out of Greenville. If the story is legit, which this seems to be, the source doesn't mean ####.
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This is their response on apartment complex web page
Dec 13, 2014, 7:36 PM
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THE GROVES CLEMSON RESPONDS TO ACCUSATIONS
We are a military family and we welcome veterans and others who follow proper procedures to stay in our community which is federal law regulated. We are an exclusive student community that takes pride in the country we live in and our veterans who serve past, present and future. We are also a business that runs by rules, regulations and contracts. It is our responsibility to provide the safest environment possible to our students/tenants. Proper procedures were explained to both the tenant and the gentleman living there recently. The particular section that applies to this couple was set aside and initialed by the tenant as part of a signed contract. As it stands right now the tenant and her guest have refused to comply with a very simple procedure. Parents, guardians and grantors respect and appreciate our guest polices for the safety of their students who choose to live in our safe community. It is our goal to provide all of our tenants the same treatment no matter what gender, race, age, school or career they are or have chosen. Safety is our ultimate goal and we can not and will not jeopardize it.
We apologize that the media has misrepresented this entire situation based solely on the statements of only one individual and made it appear to be something it is not.
The Groves Clemson
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Re: This is their response on apartment complex web page
Dec 13, 2014, 11:32 PM
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Good way of saying the landlord uses zero tolerance policies to manage his properties because he is not capable of making smart case by case decisions because he has ZERO common sense.
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This may be unpopular but...
Dec 14, 2014, 8:32 AM
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The letter on the website makes a good point. Without such a contract there would often be 10 students in a 2-3 br apt. That being said it would seem that exceptions could be made for certain circumstances.
There is one piece of information missing here. Is this a 1 bedroom apartment? Is she the only tenant? If she has roommates then should they have to take on an additional roommate bc her husband is on leave? If there bf isn't allowed to stay longer than 3 nights then why should the visiting husband.
If she is the only tenant in a 1 br apt than the property manager is an ### however I would guess that is not the case.
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There is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law..
Dec 14, 2014, 8:43 AM
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This was obviously not a case where 12 students were trying to game the system...
Also, It doesn't matter if it were one bedroom or not because married people only need one bedroom.
This is such a bad case of lack of common sense and plain decency that it is incredible.
This could have been a PR home run for this complex had they done the right thing rather than being jerk-wads at Christmas
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Re: There is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law..
Dec 14, 2014, 8:55 AM
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Agreed. What about the roommate though? Can she move her bf into the other br? A bf/gf only require 1 br as well.
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my understanding is that this place has multi-BRs and the
Dec 15, 2014, 12:23 AM
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tenants sign separate individual leases and share the common space, den etc. If that is the case and roommates are involved then the landlord is totally doing the right thing here. The other roommates would likely sue or use it as a precedent to do the same; other students in other apartments would then follow that lead; if my kid or I had been in that apartment and didn't know going in that that a roommate was having a baby, I'd be demanding out of the lease or contract enforcement because of that much less the husband moving in also. Totally in the landlord's corner if this is a shared space apt.
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is he kicking the child out also?
Dec 13, 2014, 11:23 PM
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it has probably not signed the lease either and has overstayed its allotted guest period.
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Very Good Point***
Dec 14, 2014, 8:20 AM
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all residents in an apartment go on the lease. If you have
Dec 14, 2014, 4:58 PM
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animals, they get mentioned as well. I honestly cannot figure out why presumably intelligent Clemson fans are this panty-twisted over this. The guy IS NOT ON THE LEASE. Would you like to extend permanent residency to anyone that anybody on a lease with the landlord would like to have come live with them? It's not a question of the spirit of the law, or the landlord's humanity. The guy has a right to know who is living in his apartments. When the apartment complex burns down, you don't want firefighters finding bodies of a bunch of people who weren't accounted for because they weren't actually known to be living on the property.
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agree, huge liability risk also***
Dec 15, 2014, 12:26 AM
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Re: Soldier Visiting Wife Living @ The Groves in Central booted
Dec 14, 2014, 10:13 AM
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The most obvious question to me is why isn't the husband also on the lease? I've been married for almost 20 years and both are names are on EVERYTHING we own or lease. Seems to me this whole thing could have been prevented with a little common sense on the couples part as well. It's pretty common for leases to at least require the names of everyone over 18 living there. This would have been specifically asked for during the application/lease process. Its important if for no other reason than doing the proper background checks...i would sure want to know my daughter wasn't living next door to a sex offender...wouldnt you?Lastly, the guy being in the military is irrelevant...I appreciate his service but he should be held to the same rules as everyone else.
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Re: Soldier Visiting Wife Living @ The Groves in Central booted
Dec 14, 2014, 10:25 AM
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Really, who gives a crap. Go Tigers
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Well..the wife is a Tiger...
Dec 14, 2014, 1:00 PM
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So I guess "Go Tigers" only applies to athletics...Gotcha
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Re: Well..the wife is a Tiger...
Dec 14, 2014, 4:29 PM
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Nope...I pull for all Tigers...but that doesn't mean a Tiger gets an automatic pass no matter what.
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Re: Soldier Visiting Wife Living @ The Groves in Central booted
Dec 14, 2014, 1:55 PM
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I'm not that familiar with the whole story, but it is likely that his name isn't on the lease because she moved after he deployed. He wouldn't be able to sign the lease from overseas, and if she is just going to be living there until his deployment is over, he would never need to be on the lease, as he won't be living there. The Groves deserves all of the bad PR they get for making such an issue over a husband staying with his wife and kid at their apartments while he is home for two weeks of R&R.
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Re: Soldier Visiting Wife Living @ The Groves in Central booted
Dec 14, 2014, 4:44 PM
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If she is a student at Clemson with a newborn, while his name isn't on the actual lease his paycheck is most probably paying the rent.
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that's irrelevant***
Dec 15, 2014, 12:29 AM
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Re: that's irrelevant***
Dec 15, 2014, 9:34 AM
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Not in the court of public opinion it's not.
There's no amount of financial/legal justification to bring this much bad PR on yourself. This is stupid business point blank.
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Well wait - do we know the whole story?
Dec 15, 2014, 9:32 AM
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I mean if this chick has a dude living there already I can understand the landlord not wanting some kind of salacious reverse Three's Company situation going on in there.
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My generation, 1960's suffered the same condition.
Dec 15, 2014, 9:43 AM
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We found problems and loved to point them out. It became habitual to search for problems because we so enjoyed protesting them. I think that some of us evolved into the loathed groups know as PETA and the tree huggers' society, but I digress.
How about you starting a group to gather funds for this couple to live somewhere else until the young gentleman has to return to duty? A solution so close to hand could resolve this.
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How about the Landlord easy up...It's only 2 weeks also..
Dec 15, 2014, 11:05 AM
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They are husband and wife with an infant baby...Dear Lord where the heck is common sense?..2 Flipping weeks for a married couple to be together for Christmas.
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Re: Soldier Visiting Wife Living @ The Groves in Central booted
Dec 15, 2014, 10:48 AM
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The excerpt of the lease sounds like the Sgt could stay for 7 days, then go stay in a hotel for one night, then stay for 7 more. Rinse & Repeat.
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