Re: So when will the mountain be torn down?

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Jun 27, 2015, 4:36 PM

> The Confederate battle flag is not a symbol of the
> Confederate military? The first, second, and third
> National flags were symbols of the Confederate govt.
> The battle flag was a symbol of the military.

Actually it's not. The "Confederate Flag" that is generally accepted as the symbol of the "Confederate" military is quite wrong. What is known as the Battle Flag was in fact the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia which was surrendered at Appomattox Courthouse.

In so far as the removal of the Cherokee Nation you bring up and interesting point. The treatment of the indigenous peoples of the this country can best be described as genocide. It is, along side of the slavery of African Americans the darkest chapter in American history. As an illustration the Phips Proclamation of 1755 struck in Massachusetts offered a bounty of 20 pounds for, among others: "For every Scalp of such Female Indian or Male Indian under the Age of twelve years that Shall be killed and brought in as Evidence of their being killed as aforesaid, Twenty pounds." The scalping was continued though not officially well after Independence from England and beyond the Civil War.

My great grandmother was full blooded Cherokee from Western NC. I am particularly aware of the tragedy of the Cherokee removal. But surely, as a Cherokee yourself, how can you in good conscience advocate the confederate flag, the very symbol of White Supremacy from the 1860's too modern day. It represents the precise mindset and thinking that resulted in the devastation of our own thinking.

Surely, as civilized men we can recognize the mistakes of our past and move forward without the burden of certain unfortunate elements of our "heritage". The American Flag has always and will forever stand for hope and the finest qualities that men are capable. It is the symbol of a promise that one day all men can live together in peace and freedom.

I respect your right to your view, though I disagree with it that doesn't men that we can't be friends. But I will end on this one point. You love Clemson as much as I do. You sit down with Artavis Scott, Deshaun Watson, Mike Williams, Shaq Lawson or any of the other African American players on our team; and you ask them what they feel when they see the confederate flag? If any one of them says it reminds them of the noble "confederates heritage" then I will never argue against the confederate flag again.

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> Since the KKK ALWAYS carried white crosses, will you
> advocate for the removal of all crosses in National
> and State cemeteries? What about the removal of all
> crosses from churches as they are readily in view and
> will surely remind all people of the KKK? Isn't this
> getting silly?

Actually no. The cross has been and will always be the symbol of Christ's suffering on the cross. It has been a global symbol of that for over 2000 years. That's what people see when they see the cross. In spite of it's misuse by the KKK the cross itself has never been confused with racism. The Confederate Flag was adopted by the states in modern time as their symbol of a "states rights fight to keep and maintain Jim Crow laws of segregation. It wasn't just the klan. It was, and some would argue, still is used as a statement of white supremacy and purity. I was raised in SC and I remember bathrooms labeled Men, Women and Colored. I remember "Colored Only" on water fountains and the balconies at movie theaters. And I certainly remember "White Only" signs on the doors of restaurants.

Yours seems to be an all or nothing argument which makes no sense. By the same logic the question could arise "should we ban all white sheets" or "all open fields because they klan used them for ceremonies. Should we ban all travel to Germany because the Nazi's once ruled there. Your "all or nothing" argument is simplistic and extreme.

So when will the mountain be torn down?

renaming Richmond to Leningrad

I've actually been to Leningrad

I've actually been to Leningrad

Think of all the schools that need to be renamed...

dsp ain't gonna like this.***

Who is she?

I think he helped build the place.....***

We could change the name to Fort Jesse Jackson

Here in GA, Dodge County still files the Confederate Flag

I haven't heard anything here in Atlanta yet..............

he leaves ATL alone, he's known in too many strip clubs ther***