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If the Tigers beat Wake, are we slone in 4th with a double bye, or ..
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If the Tigers beat Wake, are we slone in 4th with a double bye, or ..

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:34 AM

is Pitt a factor?

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Yes...Clemson holds the tie breaker over Pitt and Cuse.***

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:39 AM



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We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does.

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:39 AM

We beat Pitt both games this year so we have the tiebreaker.

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Re: We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does.

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:51 AM

and Cuse also

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Re: We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does.

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:52 AM

I thought Cuse was done with their season.

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They are and Clemson holds the tie-breaker***

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:54 AM

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We wont be tied with SU if we win -12-8 vs 11-9***

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Mar 6, 2024, 9:08 AM



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Re: We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does.

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Mar 6, 2024, 8:54 AM [ in reply to We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does. ]

I was definitely confused last night. Wasn't even thinking about more teams with same record.

If I read the article correctly, since wake lost last night, wake has no chance at the bye? Or am I wrong. Doesn't matter since we're going to beat wake, but just in case we didn't... we still get the bye. So we're definitely 4th.

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Here is my understanding...

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Mar 6, 2024, 9:07 AM

The battle for the 4th seed and a double bye in the ACC Tournament comes down to Saturday’s matchup with Wake in Winston-Salem on Saturday. The Tigers hold the tiebreaker with Pitt, so if they win Saturday, they will grab the 4-seed regardless of the outcome of the Panthers’ weekend game with NC State. If Wake wins, they would be tied with Clemson and would hold the tiebreaker and would get the 4th seed regardless of the outcome of the Pitt game.

The really frustrating thing is, if Clemson doesn't **** the bed at Notre Dame last week, or against Miami, NC State, Virginia Tech or Georgia Tech earlier in the season, the outcome of Saturday's game against Wake would be irrelevant and meaningless in terms of an ACCT double-bye for Clemson.

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Pitt gets the 4 with a win and Clemson loss

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Mar 6, 2024, 9:11 AM

Pitt would be 12-8. Wake, Clemson, and SU would be 11-9.

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You are correct my friend!***

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Mar 6, 2024, 9:22 AM



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So we could actually end-up in 3rd, 4th or 5th?

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Mar 6, 2024, 10:30 AM

3rd = a Clemson win, a UVa loss, and Pitt win
4th = a Clemson win and a UVa win
4th = a Clemson loss and a Pitt loss (forces 4-way and Clemson holds the tiebreaker)
5th = a Clemson loss and a Pitt win (Clemson holds the 3-way tiebreaker over Wake & Syracuse).

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Re: So we could actually end-up in 3rd, 4th or 5th?

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Mar 6, 2024, 10:37 AM

Incorrect...

4th is the highest we can finish.

Clemson win - 4th seed
Wake win/Pitt win - 6th seed
Wake win/ Pitt loss- 5th seed

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Re: So we could actually end-up in 3rd, 4th or 5th?

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Mar 6, 2024, 10:40 AM

besides IF Virginia loses then we get into tiebreakers and possible coin flips.

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Re: So we could actually end-up in 3rd, 4th or 5th?

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Mar 6, 2024, 10:41 AM

3rd, 4th or 6th but not 5th.

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Re: So we could actually end-up in 3rd, 4th or 5th?


Mar 6, 2024, 10:50 AM

You are correct on 5th seed. Tiebreaker with pitt and wake has them using record of highest standing win which would go to their games against UVA was pitt is 1-0 vs 1-1 for wake.

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there is no way to tie just Pitt and WF. WF can't get to 12 wins and if those


Mar 6, 2024, 11:25 AM

teams all have 11 then so does SU and the 4 way tie goes to Clemson for 4th. We can not finish 5th.

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Re: So we could actually end-up in 3rd, 4th or 5th?

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Mar 6, 2024, 10:46 AM [ in reply to Re: So we could actually end-up in 3rd, 4th or 5th? ]



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Or, to look at this more positively (since I know you have trouble with that)

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Mar 6, 2024, 11:40 AM [ in reply to Here is my understanding... ]

if we hadn't gotten screwed at Duke or against NC State, we wouldn't be in this position.

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Here's the thing...

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Mar 6, 2024, 12:04 PM

if you win the games you're supposed to win (i.e., Miami, Virginia Tech, Georgia Tech and Notre Dame), you don't have to worry about getting ****** by the officials.

You'll get no argument from me about the Duke game. If the roles were reversed and that game was played in Cameron, Duke absolutely gets that foul call on the final drive 100 times out of 100.




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Re: We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does.


Mar 6, 2024, 9:35 AM [ in reply to We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does. ]

UVA holds tie break over Clemson.

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Re: We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does.


Mar 6, 2024, 9:38 AM

UVA one point victory in head-to-head matchup. I figured Brownell had you filled in on cocktail night

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Re: We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does.


Mar 7, 2024, 4:15 PM [ in reply to Re: We would be 3rd or 4th, depending on what UVA does. ]

Yes, but in a 3 way tie with VA and Pitt, we own tiebreaker


Clemson 2-1
UVA 1-1
Pitt 1-2

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Re: If the Tigers beat Wake, are we slone in 4th with a double bye, or ..

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Mar 6, 2024, 11:35 AM

How refreshing! Several weeks ago it seemed we couldn't shake 10th place. Now I understand why this season has been successful and doing it in February too. Thanks All!

Go Tigers!

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Re: If the Tigers beat Wake, are we slone in 4th with a double bye, or ..

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Mar 6, 2024, 12:52 PM

I think it is succesful no matter what happens, but we have missed opportunities and we will see how we finish. The ranges now is slightly succesful to whatever happens moving forward. Reality is we will end in a loss, but let's see how it all goes down.

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Win and Get 4th with a Shot at 3rd***


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Unfortunately Clemson has no shot at 3rd, Virginia holds head to head


Mar 7, 2024, 4:25 PM

with that crappy 1 point win over our Tigers. One of several that just did not go our Tigers way.

Just win Saturday and lock up 4th is enough for that double-bye!!

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See the thread below for a synopsis


Mar 7, 2024, 4:49 PM

https://www.tigernet.com/clemson-forum/message/updated-acc-standings,-schedule-for-saturday.....-34560134#34560134

We can end up 3rd, 4th, or 6th depending on the three games: Clemson - WFU, NCSU - Pitt, and GT - UVa.

CU - Wake NCSU - Pitt GT - UVa Clemson Seed
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CU NCSU GT 4
CU NCSU UVa 4
CU Pitt GT 3
CU Pitt UVa 4
Wake NCSU GT 4
Wake NCSU UVa 4
Wake Pitt GT 6
Wake Pitt UVa 6

I think that's right...

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