Re: Snowden dropping bombs.

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Re: Snowden dropping bombs. Didn't watch it, but that's OK

Nov 7, 2022, 7:35 PM [ in reply to Re: Snowden dropping bombs. ]

Glad you watched it; I'll expand upon your interpretation.

It's not just the CIA that cleverly spreads lies and disinformation. It's possible that, as far as formal education in lies / dis-info, they are the MIT / Oxford of this craft.

Again, referring to your interpretation, the techniques which you described can (and are) widely cultivated via less-rigorous scam / con-man schooling than what comes from the CIA.

Vast majority of politicians? Check. . Penny stock brokers? Check. . Bitcoin propagandists? Check. . (Many) financial planners? Check. . High-interest rate lenders? Check. . Herbalist / faith healers? Check.

But there are plenty of 'learned it on the street / trial-and-error' artists in the realm of the refined lies & disinformation business. These people can be very dangerous to your (financial) health.

Check out if you've had enough ... my example of such a 'learned it on the street' con artist is long.

Example is the stereotype 'historic' American family (husband & wife, three kids, pet dog and cat, hobbies such as cooking on the grill and wood working). This family is a nest of con-artists. Smart people, but no apparent formal education beyond HS. The first tip was this family's arrival into a good condo community ... as renters. We know the owner of the condo, and are friends with 2 other families in the condo community. This family had 4 of the too-fancy for your life-style image type of automobiles; i.e., too fancy for the people that are renting a Condo and then start housing their adult married children (who also possess his & her luxury cars, despite having no apparent regular job). We circumstantially know these people and have had (and continue to have) numerous casual encounters with them.

They are charming, appear to be open, and readily 'present themselves' as down-to-earth people (and do a really good job of it). Smooth at conversation without sounding 'slick,' never pushy or in a hurry. At least with their (rented) condo, they offer their neighbors the key to their place (show the hiding spot for the key) ... they demonstrate their 'trust' in others, which in turn leads others to trust them. Never proactively discuss politics, but are easily 'induced' to echo political / social leanings of their new neighbors.

Oh yes, and their excuse for renting in the nice condo community is because "Covid" caused their business (singular ... not plural) to fail. They really want people to know that they are 'not just your average renter,' instead striving to create a stronger socioeconomic connection with their neighbors ... but all the while, never showing any cracks in their demeanor of humility.

My wife did some sleuthing, and these people had ~ 10 different corporations which had opened and then either closed or went inactive since 2006. Clever aliases were used to detail the 'officers' of these businesses (i.e., the following is not the real life for this family, but for illustrative purposes: Alias along the lines of Schmidt being 'modified' to Schmid and then to Schmit; aliases for the corporate name ... something like from "XYZ Inc" [no period] to "XYZ Inc." [with period]. Also, a bewildering number of different residences, scattered around the upper MidWest and Florida; moved into and out of each homes more than once per year ... sometimes even moving from home to home to home in the same county during a year (and this being before 2020).

Among their 'businesses' had been a variety of very different (at best, loosely related) types of corporations: Property management, finance, green energy, environmental, and 'gadget / gizmo type' names for their businesses.

My wife and I don't have an 'ending' or 'moral to the story' yet, but this whole deal is quacking like a con and smelling like a con operation.

We suspect people are waiting for someone to reveal some financial component of their lives that can be exploited ... when the circumstances and timing is right. Can't prove it yet, looking to share the info that we have gathered with our friends in hopes that they will in turn share it with THEIR friends and neighbors.

The moral to (yet another long) the post is that people can learn how to be con artists if they are smart, pay attention to human nature, have the discipline to be patient for the big kill. It is both fascinating and a bit terrifying to have enough touch points to 'experience' their behavior. If something looks a bit odd, then be wary. Con artists don't have to have training via the CIA or other institutionalized semi-con organizations to be hazardous to your financial health.

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The 9 - 5 journalists are nothing special. Not 'bad people' but either in jobs where the editors don't want them doing real investigative stuff, or where the journalist doesn't want to do the dirty work of real investigative journalism.

My real life example is an uncle who worked as a sports reporter for a 2nd tier city daily paper in the Northeast USA.

Every work day, he'd write his article, with the 'hard hitting' stuff being an interview with a local sports figure whom he could quote and therefore meet his quota of words to contribute to the paper, and to meet the deadline for submitting the article.

The enormous percentage of journalists are these kind of people. They are not stupid, they are not immoral, they are good people who just want to make a decent living and not 'save the world.'

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There are also those apparent 'save the world' type journalists who, by 'doing research' that allows them to write the kind of articles that their editor wants them to do, pass themselves off as smart and resourceful investigative journalists. These writers are no better than the daily rag journalists such as my uncle.

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Not all investigative journalists are fools. Karen Kingston and Sharyl Attkisson come to mind as journalists who really do their homework instead of spouting off the popular cliches of the day.

Regardless of the rare good ones, I'll go with Tom's assertions that 99.99% of investigative journalists are either fools or quasi-con artists who make a good living via selling their editor's false virtues to their readers.

Snowden dropping bombs.

Blasphemy!***

They didn't just fool enemies. They fooled Congress and the

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On the scales of justice the weight and volume

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Re: They didn't just fool enemies. They fooled Congress and the

Re: They didn't just fool enemies. They fooled Congress and the

NIST never explained how WTC I & II collapsed... The only

Re: NIST never explained how WTC I & II collapsed... The only

19 w/boxcutters (8 of whom are still alive) You know NOTHING***

Re: 19 w/boxcutters (8 of whom are still alive) You know NOTHING***

Re: They didn't just fool enemies. They fooled Congress and the

BS.***

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I disagree with the "credibly explained". If so, please post

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Take the blindfold off. Check the players. Follow the money.***

Re: Snowden dropping bombs. Didn't watch it, but that's OK

Re: Snowden dropping bombs.

How do you always find a way to make

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Just 99.9999999 %***

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Re: Snowden bombs. False virtues of most journalists

Yep, it's all about who owns the medium. They dictate 'news'***

Re: Yep, it's all about who owns the medium. They dictate 'news'***

These days "investigative" journalists just repeat gubment

..."according to unnamed sources..."***

Re: ..."according to unnamed sources..."***

He's got more rhymes that the Bible's got Psalms...

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