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Letterman [190]
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WR Jordan Hudson from TCU
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Enters transfer portal. HMMM?
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Clemson Conqueror [11368]
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Re: WR Jordan Hudson from TCU
Apr 19, 2023, 2:06 PM
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No chance, we have 88 scholarship players and need to shed 3 and no one is transferring.
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Ultimate Tiger [33641]
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again. BYU proved scholarships are not a hard limit
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Apr 19, 2023, 2:14 PM
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for a footbabl roster. and near as i can tell Power 5 football has no roster limit.
IF you got enough NIl you can literally have 150 5star athletes on your roster.
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Clemson Conqueror [11368]
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Re: again. BYU proved scholarships are not a hard limit
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We don’t have a billionaire alumnus that owns a company that can do that, so BYU proves THEY have no roster limit.
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Ultimate Tiger [33641]
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Clemson also has no roster limit
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Apr 19, 2023, 2:56 PM
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if you can convince 150 people to be on the team.. you can have 150 football players.
DIV II has a cap of like 130.. but i couldn't find anything on DIV 1.
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Solid Orange [1381]
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We already do have 100 to 110 on the roster.***
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Apr 19, 2023, 3:00 PM
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Ultimate Tiger [33641]
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there must be some hidden reason why schools like
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Apr 19, 2023, 3:07 PM
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UGA who are wiling to sell their soul to the devil for football wins don't have 170 kids on the team.
probably a logistics thing.. you do have a limit on the amount of coaches allowed. Probably dont want each coach to have to deal with 35 kids.
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CU Guru [1501]
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UGA doesn't make the playoffs without Stetson Bennett playing like an elite QB.
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All we need a good QB.
The end.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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LMAO nobody's afraid of our current "depth" at WR
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get a clue. You've lost all rational thinking b/c of your orange colored glasses.
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CU Guru [1501]
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We have perhaps the best conglomeration of WR talent in the ACC, and obviously
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enough to go to the playoffs, as evidenced by missing it by a FG with perhaps the worst QB we've had in the Swinney era, and yes that includes Cole Stoudt.
If you're clueless just say you're clueless. Not fooling anyone either way.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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LMAO!.........stop embarassing yourself
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Apr 19, 2023, 5:09 PM
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winning in the ACC doesn't prove anything.
we went 0-3 OOC last year.
Our WR talent SUCKS compared to 2015-2019 era WRs..........again........get a clue
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Game Changer [1801]
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Re: We have perhaps the best conglomeration of WR talent in the ACC, and obviously
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—You arrive at such an absurd conclusion b/c you suffer from a limited perspective brought on by chronically burying your head in the sand. All that sand has left you cripple brained, clueless to the reality that we played weak a$$ schedule; dimwitted & oblivious to the fact we were blown out by ND & Tennessee—
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DJ didn't have Tee Higgins, but he had plenty of talent.
Apr 23, 2023, 10:51 AM
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I think the dude is right
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I don't understand. The guy is right.***
Apr 23, 2023, 10:54 AM
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Ultimate Tiger [33641]
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this seems like a new and interesting development***
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Re: this seems like a new and interesting development***
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I still believe there will be some transfers. I thought it would have happened by now after the Spring game.
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If Dabo & Co. were as good at roster management as
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Apr 19, 2023, 2:33 PM
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they think, we would have room for this guy.
But they aren't, and we don't.
Not that Dabo would use the transfer portal to get a player of consequence, because he has shown that he won't. But it would be nice to know that we were in a position to do so.
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Paw Warrior [4836]
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Re: If Dabo & Co. were as good at roster management as
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Piece of ####...
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Since when does acknowledging Dabo’s limitations equal hating him?!?***
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Paw Warrior [4902]
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Re: Since when does acknowledging Dabo’s limitations equal hating him?!?***
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Because there’s too much good that he’s done for someone to call our roster management out of all things.
You could call him out for real things like keeping in DJ too long. There’s zero wrong with his roster management. He gives every player the opportunity at some point and some have ended up as legends, like Renfrow. Way more so than other coaches who never let their walk ons play a snap.
And I have never seen one post including any exposure of Brownell’s flaws. Picking on the better coach, and standing up for the coach with nothing to show.
Don’t give me, “This isn’t even about Brad.”
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Tiger Titan [50728]
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So Dabo having to pull scholarships from players to make room is good roster management?
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I’m not sure what Brownell has to do with this or any other football thread, but he has his faults which I have pointed out many times.
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CU Guru [1501]
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You're a fraud lady, and we all know the only reason you're allowed to pollute this site
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is because you're a personal friend of Crump's. The jig is up loser, nobody wants you here.
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Re: If Dabo & Co. were as good at roster management as
Apr 19, 2023, 2:37 PM
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If there were open spots…wouldn’t that also mean he was bad at roster management?
Isn’t the goal to be full…no more, no less?
And he’s three over right now because 3 sure fire NFL draft picks decided to stay in college one more year.
I’d say that’s pretty dang good roster management. It would be poor to not fill your roster completely after a recruiting cycle.
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Paw Warrior [4902]
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Re: If Dabo & Co. were as good at roster management as
Apr 19, 2023, 2:42 PM
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He’s just trying to expose the flaws of Dabo’s coaching to somehow make people realize whatever Brad’s success is.
If you’re somehow overlooking the majority of overly successful years by Dabo and calling out his roster management, that says something. It’s BS. Just because a dynasty of a program steps back for a couple years doesn’t mean Dabo is immediately bad at roster management.
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Tiger Titan [50728]
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I criticize Dabo sometimes because he makes mistakes.
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Apr 19, 2023, 4:10 PM
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Has nothing to do with Brownell or basketball.
In what weird universe would me criticizing Dabo or any other Clemson coach somehow make Brownell look better? That’s an odd way to view things.
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Paw Warrior [4902]
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Re: I criticize Dabo sometimes because he makes mistakes.
Apr 19, 2023, 4:33 PM
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Judge, you don’t criticize Brownell for ANYTHING. On the contrary, you actually applaud him.
Just saying man, no one in their right mind criticizes Dabo before or more often than Brownell.
Some of your criticisms of Dabo, except this one, have been kind of true. I’d like to see some criticisms of Brownell equally instead of riding, well you know.
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Tiger Titan [50728]
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I’m not going to keep a tally of how many times I say something less than flattering
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Apr 19, 2023, 4:52 PM
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about one coach versus another.
It’s funny and sad that some of you keep such a close watch over what I say though.
I readily admit that Brad is not a great recruiter. And a few end of half/game decisions were not what I would’ve done. He’s not perfect and I’ve never said he is.
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Paw Warrior [4902]
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Re: I’m not going to keep a tally of how many times I say something less than flattering
Apr 19, 2023, 7:32 PM
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You’re the only Brad supporter here. People remember that, therefore they remember your opinions more. Not like anyone stresses over it. You’re not that special. I’m not. No one is.
You’re good at dodging the real questions by dancing around. I’m just simply stating that I don’t understand how you criticize Dabo for this kind of thing, but don’t get bent over Brad missing the tournament every year.
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Tiger Titan [50728]
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Clemson Conqueror [11512]
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Re: Last offseason, we were scrambling to fill our scholarships.
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The ostensible reason for Dabo’s ‘poor’ roster management is because of his reluctance for ‘encouraging’ underperforming scholarship players to leave.
(Please don’t tell me that you don’t understand the meaning in this frame of reference behind the euphemistic term ‘encouraging.’)
After 2021 season: The exodus of three asst coaches led to us scrambling to fill out our recruiting class.
This was an unusual circumstance.
Accordingly, we put a few walk-ons (Phillip Florenzo … now our starter at LS, others) on scholarship.
After 2022 season: Totally against expectations, two NFL ready DTs and a 5th year Senior DE who never RS’d decided to come back.
This was an unusual circumstance.
(*). Rather than tell some under performing scholly players to hit the bricks (look to the OL for 3+ and to the DE for another) by telling them that they will never amount to more than a water boy, Dabo encourages those players to work harder and realize their potential.
(***). By adhering to priorities and not succumbing to the temptation of selling out the ‘family’ aspect of our culture, Dabo finds the roster with 88 on scholly. There is a plan: Rescind scholarships to former W/Os according to the needs of the roster.
Xxxxxxx
The alternative is to do what all of those other ‘we too are also all about family’ schools that motivate underperforming players to leave by telling them that they’ll never sniff the field, and that their chances of actually playing are at some other school.
(!!!). I realize that you are opposed to leaders who openly profess their Christianity. I am sorry that your loathing of overt Christian leaders … especially those whose secular success is too obvious to ignore … blinds you to the special ‘for good’ qualities that Dabo possesses. This blindness is leading you to create a caricature of yourself. There is nothing to prevent an atheist to be open minded about the performance of others. In general, atheists are not biased about weighing performance attributes on their own merit. You can be this way.
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Tiger Titan [50728]
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How on earth did you conclude that I have a problem with overtly Christian leaders?!?
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Apr 19, 2023, 7:04 PM
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Just wow, dude.
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He is a great coach
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Apr 19, 2023, 4:17 PM
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which unfortunately doesn’t seem to help him with roster management.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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Clemson Sports Icon [55399]
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Hey Daniel High, got any receivers we can have?***
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Paw Master [16640]
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You can't shade both ways. Either he's not going to use
Apr 19, 2023, 2:44 PM
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the transfer portal or he's not good at roster management. You can't knock him for not having room for something you claim he'll never use and knock him for never using it. If you believe he'll never use it, then saving space for transfers would be poor roster management.
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Tiger Titan [50728]
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It’s not “shade,” it’s reality.
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Last year, we had space to fill but Dabo went out of his way to tell everyone who would listen that his transfer portal is our locker room.
He doesn’t get credit for using the portal to bring in a fourth string QB who had a connection to Dabo and supposedly reached out to Dabo to ask about coming to Clemson.
This isn’t about checking off a box to say that Dabo has used the portal. It’s about him being willing to aggressively use the portal to improve our talent level and bring in players who can help us in meaningful ways.
This year, we can’t even entertain the transfer portal because we are over the scholarship limit. Dabo is now faced with yanking scholarships from former walk-ons or strongly encouraging scholarship players to leave.
In both cases, it’s poor roster management. He is paid $10.5 million a year to not get into these situations. This is something I would expect from a young coach who has never managed a team before, not a guy who is a super successful veteran head coach.
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Paw Master [16640]
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Lol. It's obviously shade and you know it. Everyone knows
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it. There's no value in doing that silly dance.
And you're right - Dabo avoids using the portal. And we know you don't like it. Or more accurately, you use that as a reason to act like Dabo isn't great in a bewildering attempt to take heat off of Brad Brownell.
All coaches run into this sort of situation. Unforunately, Dabo ran into it because too many high quality seniors or draft-eligible players want to continue to play for him rather than move on. High quality coaching and a fantastic culture is a curse, I tell ya.
Other coaches, when they run into this, tell kids to go packing...no matter what he told them and their families when they were asking them to commit to the team/school they lead. Dabo doesn't. I like that. I like that more than a program that treats players like pawns.
To sum up, you're trying to make the argument that Dabo isn't doing his job because too many upper classmen want to stay at Clemson, leading to a possible removal of a scholarship from a walk-on, which is exactly what Dabo told those kids could happen.
You're doing great, JK.
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Tiger Titan [50728]
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I’m not trying to take any heat off of Brownell.
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Moreover, the notion that criticizing Dabo somehow makes Brownell look better is incredibly stupid.
It’s not surprising that you and others in the Dabo Fan Club are trying to spin his roster mismanagement as a byproduct of players loving him so much and not wanting to leave Clemson. LOL!
The bottom line is that if Dabo and his staff had recruited or developed players better, we wouldn’t need to consider the transfer portal. So if he’s going to go “all in” on developing and keeping the guys he has, he’s failing lately.
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Re: If Dabo & Co. were as good at roster management as
Apr 19, 2023, 2:46 PM
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Another thing, we’ve literally taken in a transfer from Alabama at QB. And I remember pursuing the Center from Virginia last offseason. Ended up at Michigan and may have won a national award I’m not sure, but he was a big piece of their season.
Anyways, Dabo prefers not to, but clearly it’s happened, and he will use it if he clearly must. Just like firing Streeter.
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Re: If Dabo & Co. were as good at roster management as
Apr 19, 2023, 3:25 PM
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Is this at JK?
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Tiger Titan [50728]
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Why can’t some of you listen to criticism of Dabo without bringing up basketball?
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Apr 19, 2023, 4:19 PM
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It’s really childish.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [101287]
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Oh, the irony.***
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I can stay on topic. Some of you obviously can’t.***
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How exactly is my criticism of Dabo inaccurate?
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LOL
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Who would we move out of the rotation to guarantee anyone a shot?
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Apr 19, 2023, 4:46 PM
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You portal folks are not looking at the big picture.
That, and hasn't Brad shown us plain as day transfers guarantee nothing?
You just keep swinging and missing at the same exact pitches. You struck out long ago, sit down already, hag.
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Re: If Dabo & Co. were as good at roster management as
Apr 20, 2023, 11:34 AM
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Roster management is fine. His record proves he has a clue to most of what is his job responsibilities. Some folks don’t pan out. Nature of the game.
The DJ’s fault poster. Yes.. DJ’s fault. You really believe hitting less than 10 passes against your rival says he is/was capable. I blame a lot of it on his inabilities to get rid of the ball and accuracy. Receivers can’t stay open for long. They need the ball on them faster than what DJ could process.
Some love to be negative. Try on a pair of garnet glasses and see how that works out for you but some of the negative BS is what it is BS.
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Re: If Dabo & Co. were as good at roster management as
Apr 23, 2023, 11:00 AM
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Maybe I’m in the minority here but I don’t for a second think that we won’t see any more transfers … where we are in college football now that would be crazy. I could be wrong but I will be very surprised if we don’t see 4-5 at minimum transfer before too long, kids just don’t wanna fight for it anymore and I would be shocked honestly if “pulling scholarships” happens. And even if they did happen unfortunately like Dabo said that’s the life of a walk on … they are told that from day one , there’s no guarantees and I’d bet the percentages are WAY higher on walking never getting a scholly than it is then having to have them taken away bc of limits…. It’ll
Work itself out I don’t understand how you could say it’s poor roster management, honestly that’s just lazy ignorant talk
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Is he better than EJ Williams, or Frank Ladson? If so, why?
Apr 19, 2023, 2:47 PM
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And if he’s an answer to our prayers at WR, why is he not the answer at TCU?
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Maybe it's the other way around
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TCU's no longer the answer for him. Different team next season...perhaps he doesn't like what he sees, especially compared to '22's successes.
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I suppose that could be …sadly, it’s the new normal.***
Apr 19, 2023, 3:03 PM
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Interesting … I dunno. Maybe he was was too impatient.
Apr 19, 2023, 5:35 PM
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Maybe Ohio State didn’t realize the potential.
There are certainly numerous examples of QBs flourishing after a transfer.
I will say that QB seems rather a different situation than WR given that only one guy is going to start at QB while as many as 6 guys can get significant playing time at WR.
Oh well … that’s all I got.
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Re: Is he better than EJ Williams, or Frank Ladson? If so, why?
Apr 19, 2023, 6:38 PM
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DueWest Great question!
I think he is compelling to a lot of people because of his star rating of 5.
But, I recall very clearly the year people were all in a "tizzy" because we lost Malachi Dupree last minute to LSwho and had to settle on, "MIKE FRIGGIN WILLIAMS" who was only a 4-star people complained.
I will take that same deal any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
I admit; it's intriguing to see what he has.
He should know the system under Riley. Being a FR I suspect more experienced WR's just beat him out. But, we would be getting him a year older/wiser.
He went to TCU and I do not believe they offer a bunch of "thug types"! So, I think he fits in that way at Clemson.
But, to your point, can he beat out who we already have "when fully healthy"?
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CU Guru [1501]
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Not even thinking about him. No room, no need.***
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Apr 19, 2023, 4:42 PM
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TigerNet Immortal [176589]
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"No need"
Apr 19, 2023, 5:42 PM
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Ring of Honor [23757]
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He's happy with who we have...
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Apr 19, 2023, 6:21 PM
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which disqualifies him for ever being taken seriously again.
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Orange Elite [5212]
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Unfortunately we won’t pursue any WR portal
Apr 20, 2023, 9:45 PM
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Options. We should but we’re not. It’s frustrating.
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