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Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:07 AM
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Who takes BV spot from within ?
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Game Day Hero [4455]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:08 AM
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I’ve seen Todd Bates name tossed out there.
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 1:22 PM
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I would hate to lose Bates. He's one of THE best recruiters in the nation. A part of me also doesn't think he would be anywhere near BVs level as coordinator. Position coaching is not the same as team strategy and play calling. So promoting him just to keep him I'm not sure about...
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Game Changer [1750]
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If Bates has been earmarked as Brent's replacement
Dec 5, 2021, 1:31 PM
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It would stand to reason that they've been perparing him for some time, and hopefully assessing his ability to do the job along the way. Dabo might not be an Xs and Os coach, but his strength sure has been managing his choice of personnel who do.
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Orange Blooded [2279]
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Legend [6777]
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I'm Sure Dabo Has been preparing for BV to leave for a while
Dec 5, 2021, 9:09 AM
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He has a stack of resumes to choose from and probably has had a short list of people for some time
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Orange Immortal [65852]
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Absolutely. Plans "B" and "C" have been in place for a
Dec 5, 2021, 9:25 AM
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while. What is wrong with people?
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Team Captain [494]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:09 AM
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Bates is taking over of BV leaves, already a done deal.
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All-Pro [762]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:14 AM
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So the nepotism continues? I guess so will the slide. This is not a “cutting teeth” job. We don’t need guys learning how to be a DC on the job.
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Dynasty Maker [3419]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:16 AM
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This is a stupid take considering our coach learned on the job. He didn’t turn out too bad. But y’all cry about every move he makes.
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All-In [10856]
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Not true. He used to make good hires
Dec 5, 2021, 9:35 AM
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Now his ego has gotten bigger. He just gonna do it his way
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All-Pro [762]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:36 AM
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Yes. He learned on the job in 2008. Many conference and national championships ago. We also had nothing to lose at that point as a program as we consistently underperformed and even had a term to describe our performance. You don’t go with a couch learning on the job if you’re a NC contender.
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All-TigerNet [10134]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 11:10 AM
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Yes. He learned on the job in 2008. Many conference and national championships ago. We also had nothing to lose at that point as a program as we consistently underperformed and even had a term to describe our performance. You don’t go with a couch learning on the job if you’re a NC contender.
Isn’t all of the coaches we’ve had the last several years been NC contenders?
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 1:24 PM
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Dabo learned on the job but was smart enough to hire the best coordinators in the country with a blank check. Dabo isn't a offensive or defensive specialist he NEEDS the best coordinators and just promoting within to teach them is going to be a huge mistake.
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 10:59 AM
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I’m ok with Bates. For replacement after that we need the very best recruiter we can find who would fit with our culture. With Kirby at UGA, Mack in NC and Napier at UF, recruiting is going to be tougher going forward in areas we have excelled previously. Wonder if Dre Bly would consider leaving UNC? Doubt it, but that’s the direction I’d be going. Same if Elliott goes or Caldwell retires. Hire the best recruiters who will follow the rules.
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All-In [10119]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:16 AM
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Todd Granthum?
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Orange Blooded [2421]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 11:24 AM
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You are kidding about Todd Grantham right? Dude has no clue.
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Scout Team [157]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 3:34 PM
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i would hire Ted Roof before i would hire Todd Grantham who is already on staff as an defensive consultant
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:18 AM
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Needs to go out of the program to get a top notch proven coordinator.
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Letterman [170]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:31 AM
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Needs to go out of the program to get a top notch proven coordinator.
Lazy post without giving names of top notch proven coordinators to consider.
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Letterman [170]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:31 AM
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Needs to go out of the program to get a top notch proven coordinator.
Lazy post without giving names of top notch proven coordinators to consider.
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 11:32 AM
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This reminds me when folks on Tnet wanted Ralph Freigen as our OC instead of Morris since he was a proven OC. Whoever Dabo picks I’m good with because he’s proven he makes good hires and he has a lot more at stake for continued success of this program than we do.
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Hall of Famer [8538]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:19 AM
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How do we know that? BV, Bates, Reed, and really Conn were external hires. Dabo will hire the best person for the job. Dabo proved that when he fired good friend Billy Napier to hire Chad Morris.
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Ultimate Tiger [35664]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:28 AM
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How do you know that coot? Did a Todd Ellis tell you?
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CU Guru [1548]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:35 AM
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You may be correct but I can't help but think back to his recruitment of Morris for OC and Venables for DC. They were game changers for Clemson. Hoping he can do it again...
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All-TigerNet [5726]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 9:42 AM
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I have no issue promoting within if someone picked up the system under BV. If at all possible it means keeping the same scheme in place then go for it.
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Clemson Icon [24894]
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Tell 'em u7c coot, no one knows losing better than you
Dec 5, 2021, 9:50 AM
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Tiger Titan [50943]
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Promoting from within, either someone currently on staff
Dec 5, 2021, 11:03 AM
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or someone from outside with a Clemson degree, is Dabo’s strategy recently.
I personally think it’s a nice idea but one that has a lot of potential pitfalls.
I would prefer that he hire someone not part of the program, especially for a position as critical as DC.
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All-Pro [714]
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Re: Promoting from within, either someone currently on staff
Dec 5, 2021, 11:36 AM
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Don’t blame you, Judge. I wouldn’t want to talk basketball right now either ??
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Asst Coach [810]
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Re: Promoting from within, either someone currently on staff
Dec 5, 2021, 11:50 AM
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or someone from outside with a Clemson degree, is Dabo’s strategy recently.
I personally think it’s a nice idea but one that has a lot of potential pitfalls.
I would prefer that he hire someone not part of the program, especially for a position as critical as DC.
Well said. Too much group think and inbreeding can lead to a lack of new ideas and innovation. When Rich Rod starting scoring 40 per game at Clemson with players that previously could only muster 10 points it was like whoa, this is fantastic. When Chad Morris said his high school team had more foot speed than Clemson's offense that was a breath of fresh air that eventually paved the way to a vertical passing attack. We need a DC that want's to do it his way and is not a yes man. Dabo is the boss but it's healthy to to get different perspectives and inputs. Confident that with an unlimited budget Dabo can lure the next BV.
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Game Changer [1900]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 11:03 AM
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If not internal, I'm hoping for Elko.
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Oculus Spirit [44985]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 11:15 AM
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Not really questioned many of his decisions. Not sure why people bring up Dabo’s ego. I’m not seeing any issues. He is the head coach shouldn't he be able to hire who he wants without being called egotistical. I must be missing something.
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Orange Blooded [2410]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 11:51 AM
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Troll ignored
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Rival Killer [2805]
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To me, this would be a take a step back and consider moment
Dec 5, 2021, 12:26 PM
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Not to do anything hastily. Whether you hire within or look for the type of person you want . . take a deep breath and consider all possibilities. I personally want someone with a lot of vigor, like BV. It has become a good mantra for us. I like the energy and want the same.
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Valley Protector [1460]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 1:17 PM
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There's a proven DC in Athens right now not doing anything...
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CU Guru [1898]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 6:01 PM
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Well I for one don’t know. He may go on a National hunt but probably has had someone in mind for quite a while. Dabo knew Venables would get an opportunity at some point.
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Game Changer [1683]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 5, 2021, 6:19 PM
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Wouldn't surprise me if Dabo asks BV for suggestions, sometimes it takes one to know one. And I think they have that kind of relationship.
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Orange Elite [5241]
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Re: Since we know Dabo won’t do a true search for DC..
Dec 6, 2021, 11:14 AM
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I'm sure Dabo will hire the best he can get.
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Heisman Winner [86750]
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Are you actively TRYING to commit bored suicide? You should
Dec 6, 2021, 11:20 AM
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join the Support Group "CalmDownCoots". Help You , they could. Or, if not, you will at least memorize the Group Slogans "Never Again", and the old standby "Wait 'Till NEXT Century".
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Valley Protector [1437]
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Re: Are you actively TRYING to commit bored suicide? You should
Dec 6, 2021, 2:45 PM
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Not sure if the coots need calming down. Haven't heard a "peep" out of any of my coot friends since the game. They act like the game never happened. But then again, for them, it didn't. ZERO
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