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Ring of Honor [23683]
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5 decommitments this year.
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What the heck is going on?
We are losing our top recruits to the likes of Georgia Tech, and I hear that Michigan is coming hard after Jordan Young, too.
We have missed out on our top RB recruits for years and have no functional depth there or at LB and DE.
This has been a 4-5 year decline.
The Dabo cult has gaslighted anyone who has raised any concerns. Losing players to the portal and replacing them with fallback recruits is showing its ugly head now, and it will only get worse.
A recruiting class of 8? Awe, don't worry; here comes a slew of offers to 2-star safety projects from Daniel High School.
Cue the TD from Tigerthing and posts from Francis talking about the glory days of Clemson Football. I'll wait.
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Since the coaches can't speak publically about a prospect until the...
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LOI is signed there is no way to know if the commit has changed his mind or if the coach his.
It makes no sense to get upset knowing that there's a good probability that before the LOI is signed our coaches withdrew the offer. It can happen over grades or newly discovered, behavior or attitude.
We almost never have problems between our players and the authorities and we graduate 99% over all. That isn't an accident, it takes a lot of diligence and hard work to accomplish such a feat as being #1 at graduation and we're probably the school with the lowest number of arrests.
Relax and enjoy being on top of that mountain.
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Re: Since the coaches can't speak publically about a prospect until the...
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No, it’s happening because our head coach doesn’t take NIL seriously.
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Re: Since the coaches can't speak publically about a prospect until the...
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Nov 23, 2024, 7:49 AM
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Sort of like I don’t take you seriously.
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National Champion [7831]
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Re: Since the coaches can't speak publically about a prospect until the...
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Nov 23, 2024, 7:56 AM
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Rude.
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Ultimate Clemson Legend [102348]
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As I said, when you post speculation as fact people don't take you seriously.***
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Re: Since the coaches can't speak publically about a prospect until the...
Nov 23, 2024, 10:27 AM
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Yep 😁
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Re: Since the coaches can't speak publically about a prospect until the...
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Clemson has had excellent coaching for the most part during
rise to the top but has reversed coarse after its rise to the
top of College Football Supremacy and now facing an ever
downward trajectory due to not taking advantage hiring
excellent seasoned coaches and playing the current system
in college football ie NIL and Transfer Portal. Upon early
retirement exit I was told because of ever changing climate
in the industry that I was welcomed back anytime due mainly
to adaptability. I fully understand guide lines are needed
in the sport we all love and support but IMHO adaptability
is key to successfully move forward.
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Varsity [104]
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You can't coach people that won't join your team******
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Nov 28, 2024, 8:43 AM
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Amare Adams. It was a pleasure having you committed while it lasted!
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NIL
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We can't pretend that our players are somehow different than all other CFB players. NIL offers are going to be the #1 factor in recruiting most players going forward. You might convince a player to take slightly less money if they really like the staff or the campus or the team atmosphere or something, but the starting point for recruiting pretty much any blue chip player is going to be a competitive NIL offer.
And that number is often going to be fluid too. A player might "commit" to Clemson when he's being offered around 100k by all of the schools recruiting him, but if one of them decides to up the offer to 300k, Dabo and company are likely going to get a phone call asking them to match and if they don't do it we get the decommitment tweet.
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Re: Since the coaches can't speak publically about a prospect until the...
Nov 28, 2024, 8:30 AM
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Are you a Tiger graduate?
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Clemson Icon [24742]
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
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Nov 23, 2024, 6:22 AM
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How do you come up with 8?
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Ring of Honor [23683]
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By the time this is over, it could be 8 but said in jest.
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Clemson Icon [24742]
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Re: By the time this is over, it could be 8 but said in jest.
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I bet we end up with 15, but we won't know who 4 or so of them are.
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Ring of Honor [23683]
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Rather stay at 10 than to sign 5 more RBs that won't play.***
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Clemson Icon [24742]
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Re: Rather stay at 10 than to sign 5 more RBs that won't play.***
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Me too.
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Clemson Conqueror [11587]
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just stick your head in the sand like all the pumpers........
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then you won't see the utter disaster that's playing out right before our eyes.........
4 years straight and people all of a sudden wondering "what's happening?"
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Valley Protector [1498]
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Re: just stick your head in the sand like all the pumpers........
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Money money money. Total explanation for the condition of college football. Evidently all the kids don’t consider an education is worth anything. Before long it will be just like the pro games with a walk around the campus we all love. I been in the game since 1968. Next year I’m out. I can spend my money on other things that doesn’t infuriate me.
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CU Medallion [20876]
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Smart
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Nov 23, 2024, 8:01 AM
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Take a break.
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Paw Warrior [4830]
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Re: just stick your head in the sand like all the pumpers........
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I mean, the purpose of getting an education for most people is getting a good paying job afterwards.
If someone is being offered hundreds of thousands per year for 4 years while in college that can set them up for life.
and it's not like you can't get an education at Ga Tech and Michigan and other places that are paying players more than us.
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Re: just stick your head in the sand like all the pumpers........
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Maybe they are savvy and realize they can get money, and education, and play football? Can't blame them at all. They are making great decisions if that is the thinking for some. It sucks for us fans though.
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Re: just stick your head in the sand like all the pumpers........
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The whole NIL thing has turned me off too. I’m not “out”, but I may not be real enthused about the football season next year. Now that teams can just buy a quarterback, it takes some of the excitement out of the game
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Dynasty Maker [3381]
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Dabo needs to lose the commitment to the kids
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They all wanted a business now they got it and you have to play the game ruthlessly. You get an NIL and you are a bust. You pull the NIL and let the kid walk away. Then you go to pay someone else to get them. This year has proven Dabo must adapt. If not he needs to retire. We are getting crushed in recruiting.
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I hate to say it but a family I am close to has a highly ranked son committed to Clemson that I thought up until this week was an unwavering commitment.
Probably going to be adding 1 more number to that list of de-commits. Georgia or S. Carolina is my understanding now.
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Tiger Titan [50655]
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Not to worry, the Dabo cult has several responses ready to go.
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1. Remind everyone that Dabo has won two national championships here and knows what he’s doing.
2. Cite examples of diamonds in the rough like Renfrow as evidence that recruiting rankings aren’t everything.
3. Generalize that all the good players require lots of money, portray paying them with NIL as cheating, and claim holier than thou status that we don’t do that.
Basically, don’t question Dabo, and paint him as a martyr.
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Paw Warrior [4830]
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Re: Not to worry, the Dabo cult has several responses ready to go.
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Crump®
Time to take out the trash again...
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Orange Elite [5159]
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3, 2, 1 ...
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1. Dabo Swinney has won two more national championships than most active coaches in any sport, including, say, guys like Brad Brownell.
2. Hey speaking of basketball, recruiting rankings indeed aren't everything. Who can forget Milton Jennings for crying out loud?
3. All good players are increasingly demanding a lot of money. It ran Nick Saban off. It may very well run Dabo Swinney off. And if he goes, he'll still leave with two more national championships than most everyone else.
Dabo Swinney is no martyr. He's just a man of some principles. I wonder why having those is seen as such a weakness anymore.
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Re: 3, 2, 1 ...
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I’ll try to answer the last question.
Because some of us love Clemson Football and don’t want to see it completely slide off the map due to a factor that IS correctable and that basically EVERY other team is practically doing. That, and yes, winning does matter for our program. Why accept mediocrity when it can be avoided? Our success, and absolutely credit Dabo for that, has put Clemson on the map and done wonders for all of our sports and the University. Why would we want to see that decline when it’s fairly clear what needs to be done to compete? I understand sticking to the principles to support our culture, and many of those I wouldn’t sacrifice, because it is important to do what’s best for the young men he is leading, but I feel like this one is more about being right to some degree, as opposed to, say, a clear moral issue.
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Orange Elite [5159]
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You're assuming because everyone else is doing it,
Nov 24, 2024, 9:02 AM
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it must be the best thing for college football.
And since when is 9-2 mediocre?
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Re: You're assuming because everyone else is doing it,
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You're looking at it wrong. Every other conference's best two or three teams would be 11-0 or 10-1 against our schedule. We have ZERO quality wins. South Carolina would be our first if we can manage that. Instead of saying "what's wrong with 9-2?" we must look at this as "there are 12 top teams playing for a championship and 100 that are not. We are part of the 100."
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Orange Elite [5159]
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Peering into the future is not a gift of mine.
Nov 25, 2024, 9:53 AM
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But you seem to have it, and know that Clemson is actually not playing for a championship.
I will now move forward in the certainty that Clemson will not beat the cacks and thus be denied an auto-bid.
And that if they do beat the cacks, they'll be a 10-2 team that no one respects enough to give an auto-bid.
I will also accept that Syracuse is about to pull a Bobby Fisher (They've lost, they just don't know it yet) against Miami, thus denying Clemson a shot at the ACC championship and auto-CFP berth.
Thank you for sharing your special gift with the rest of us.
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Re: 3, 2, 1 ...
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Do you not realize that even if Clemson jumps into NIL and portal with both feet, it like bringing a knife to a gun fight compared to OSU, UGA, MICH, etc. We just can't compete with them for big money. So this simple minded solution from many on Tnet is delusional.
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Since you and others seem to be admitting defeat
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let’s stop paying our coaching staff so much and spending so much on our football program in general. Let’s devote more money to programs that have a shot at competing for championships.
It makes zero sense to treat our program like an elite one if it isn’t possible for that to happen.
Right?!?
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Hall of Famer [8225]
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1. Remind everyone that Brad has won nothing and doesn’t know what he’s doing.
2. Cite examples of other teams losing and rankings aren’t everything.
3. Generalize that anyone who thinks Brad is not a good coach doesn’t understand basketball, and therefore their opinion is invalid
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
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Raise your hand if you have donated to the 110 Society. I have. Go Tigers!!
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All-TigerNet [5854]
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What are donation levels for the 110 society? ..
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do you get anything in return? points? trinkets? swag?
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Ring of Honor [23683]
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Didn't Dabo brag about his culture not getting decommittments?
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More proves my point that his style does not work in the modern-day era of recruitment.
And again, 99% of those teams don't pay their coach 11M.
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Ring of Honor [23683]
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I see TigerThing has woken up.
Nov 23, 2024, 10:03 AM
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I hope you're not a grown man because your behavior is childish for a 5th grader. Grown-up.
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Orange Elite [5159]
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Georgia has 8 decommits.
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Alabama has 14.
Texas has four.
Ohio State four.
Florida State seven.
But Clemson has five.
Woe is Clemson.
Am I doing it right?
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Solid Orange [1320]
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Re: Georgia has 8 decommits.
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No you have to mention how Clemsons are all because of Dabo, his mindset, and his salary.
If you don’t the “Dabo is over the hill” cult will be all over you.
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Re: Georgia has 8 decommits.
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Yeah but A1 those programs either get other highly ranked recruits to replace them or talent from the portal. Heck even the dumpster fires at USC real one, OU and FSU all got commitments from highly rated QBs this week after losing commits.
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Forgive me if I don't look to USC, OU and FSU for validation.
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Look to Oregon, Ohio State, Texas, Penn State, Indiana, Miami, Boise State, Bama, Tennessee, Georgia, Ole Miss, BYU, SMU, etc, for the center of the Bell curve.
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Orange Elite [5159]
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Not at all.
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I was responding to someone suggesting that USC, OU, and FSU were worthy of consideration.
Some of the other schools you named do merit some consideration.
Please refer back to your no doubt unread copy of Ali's "Statistical Outliers and Related Topcics" for a refresher on what is an appeal to outliers.
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National Champion [7522]
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Try again - Georgia has #1 class per 24/7 sports
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#2 Ohio State
#3 Alabama
#4 Texas
FSU has one win this season
Some of you people…
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Orange Elite [5159]
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And Clemson is #17.
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Woe is Clemson.
(I think I'm getting the hang of it now.)
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Ring of Honor [23683]
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10 recruits and about to lose more probably.***
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Orange Elite [5159]
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Ok. Keep us all posted.
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"Probably."
"Dabo probably can't adapt.
Therefore, Dabo probably won't produce the way an $11M coach should produce.
And since $11M coaches should probably produce national championships, Dabo probably shouldn't be coaching at Clemson anymore. At least, probably not for $11M. Probably more like $5M. But that's probably too much, too."
The classic hedge. Probably I'm wrong. Probably I'm right. Either way, I'm probably not going to have to admit that I was probably wrong about being right.
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With the total # of recruits 14 Clemson can't afford
decommits compared to the total # of recruits its
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Yeah it's a little cold right now.. but the
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Sun is up and super bright. It Will be a great day in clemson.
I have some tent walls and a propane heater ready to go just in case.
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Paw Warrior [4795]
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
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Who were the decommits? I can only think of 3 and Harris hasn't been made official so really 2.
The DE to Duke, the corner to Texas.
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Paw Warrior [4795]
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
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I forgot about the qb(tbh I was not excited about him anyhow)
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Orange Elite [5159]
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You seem to be rightly asking after the quality of the
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decommitments. Three four stars (DB, DL, Edge), two three stars (QB, OT).
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TigerNet Icon [152496]
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Its ok to want to discuss Clemson football
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Nov 23, 2024, 9:33 AM
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But if you want to be taken more seriously…
1) Don’t call out posters who make respectful counterpoints to your points, even if you don’t like the way those exchanges make you feel.
2) Don’t post incorrect information. We currently have 14 commits, nearly double the number you reported. Making up stats undermines your entire argument and is exactly what you are accusing others of, gaslighting.
If you want to talk football, let’s talk football.
https://247sports.com/Season/2025-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/
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Ring of Honor [23683]
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Fair enough.
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Nov 23, 2024, 10:05 AM
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I just thought of your name, but it's true; you are respectful, and I don't take any of this personally. This is a small recruiting class, and we will be filling them with fallbacks soon, just like the last 4 years. You always defend Dabo, no matter what, it make you sort of a pumper, admit it.
And you'll join in the fun, not just thumbs down every post without adding any insight. That would be your boy, Tigerthingy.
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I dont defend Dabo because hes Dabo
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Nov 23, 2024, 10:29 AM
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When/If I defend him, it’s because I find fault with the argument being used against him.
You can leave up the part about me being intelligent.
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Re: Its ok to want to discuss Clemson football
Nov 23, 2024, 10:31 AM
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Peeps who have former genocidal, bolshevik leaders as their avi are probably gonna fudge some numbers from time to time.
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Paw Master [17024]
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
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Nov 23, 2024, 10:12 AM
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Apparently we are being outbid cording to David Hood. He claims Dabo has caved and is offering big six figure deals to recruits. The example used was Tae Harris flipping to Ga Tech for what amounts to $100k. In my opinion getting coached by Mike Reed makes up the difference. We also lost Hebert to Notre Dame because they offered him $350k. That’s $350k to a three star that may never get any playing time. I understand why the kids do it. That’s life changing money at that age. As an adult we understand that $350k isn’t a lot of money.
It’s disgusting and sickening. This Wild West free agency and bidding has ruined the game. It’s the NFL on steroids. It’s hard to pull for NFL teams because personnel changes every year. When I first pulled for the Falcons, Steve Bartkowski was a given. Nowadays it’s rare to have someone play an entire career at one team. It’s worse thanks to the modern free agency and chasing dollars. I understand it. I just don’t like it.
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Ring of Honor [23683]
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I think the argument is, does Dabo have the ability to adapt to producing teams.
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Nov 23, 2024, 10:18 AM
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...that are worthy of an 11M salary (second highest in the NCAA).
If not, do fans have a right to be critical? I say heck yes. Many on here don't agree, and Dabo could go 1-9 as long as he graduates the 5-heart players he is reduced to recruiting.
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Re: I think the argument is, does Dabo have the ability to adapt to producing teams.
Nov 23, 2024, 10:24 AM
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How many coaches do you think deserve their lofty contracts? I'd wager to say there's about 10 and id say Dabo is one of them, he's still winning 10 games a year and ranked most of them.
How many players do you think deserve money upfront without playing a snap?
You like to compare Dabo to your business model, well do the same with recruits. Who do you pay first a kid with 0 experience coming out of say Stanford or some prestigious business school or the guy who's been producing for you already? Retention is priority.
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
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Nov 24, 2024, 11:10 AM
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$350K sure was a lot of money to most of us coming out of high school. It sure beats where I and many others on here started out. Don't blame the recruits at all. I'd do the same.
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
Nov 24, 2024, 11:50 AM
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We as fans and supporters can't forget besides the young man
trying to figure out his best option he has family members and
his agent talking to him this is your best option, no this is
your best option, it could be a very vicious cycle in the short
run pays immediately but long term costs the young man in various
areas of life.
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Game Changer [1869]
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
Nov 23, 2024, 10:25 AM
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Yawn
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Dynasty Maker [3459]
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
Nov 23, 2024, 10:31 AM
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Nothing more than Money being paid , why College football is losing its luster .
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
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Nov 23, 2024, 10:47 PM
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This has got to be a deep fake gamecocks board..no way the guy running this is a Clemson fan, and just lets this constant trashing dominate the site. We're 9-2 thru 11 games, with a legit shot to make the playoffs...sounds like it's about time to continue the HAMMERING of The Coach that got us here. No more x's and O's..no more digging into the next team up. That's the fan site model. This has just become a place to bash all things Clemson football.....it has lost the plot. I'm a Clemson fan. I leave the bashing to the guys pulling against us.
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
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Nov 26, 2024, 9:35 AM
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Regardless of Dabo's positions this is objectively a major issue.
Gone are the days of selling the program. Now, it's investment banking: the athlete's want to play for whomever will pay the most... It's like Kentucky/Duke basketball.
I don't disagree with Dabo's stance. He's right: consistency and doing things with high character build better men and programs than cash and boom and bust cycles.
If we were 2-8 or whatever FSU is we would be LIVID right now. That's like a self-imposed death penalty.
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What I wish Dabo would do:
Tell fans to start giving to 110 Society/Our Collective. If he started doing that he could sell just about everyone one of us on it and we'd be raising a lot more.
I think the House settlement is going to be a big boon but I think Coach could really help tip the scales with his influence on people like me.
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
Nov 26, 2024, 9:45 AM
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We are not winning the bid for these players in the auction when they put themselves on the block and are willing to pit one team against the other and go for the highest dollar not considering anything else but the money. Simple as that. LSU lost their longtime QB in getting outbid from 10.5 million to 12 million by Michigan. Not an easy game to play for a very small alumni base.
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
Nov 26, 2024, 9:57 AM
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This is something they have to straighten out with NIL. Signing needs to be a contract. With any contract there needs to be a penalty for breaking that contract...like perhaps losing a year of eligability or sitting out for a year (meaning not even being on the team sort of sitting out). Something has to stop with the poaching of players. Right now if you get a kid to sign you have to keep spending costly recruiting time and money on him right up to the day he shows up to his first practice and then some. This is not sustainable for 95% plus of schools.
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How,exactly, is anyone going to do that?
Nov 28, 2024, 12:02 PM
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To an athlete has never registered for school? You don't owe anyone money for their efforts to recruit you, in any business.
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I think that, more and more, a Clemson offer and Commitment is just like
Nov 26, 2024, 10:16 AM
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an "opening bid." Like, the recruit has that to fall back on until a more lucrative offer comes along.
All the decommitments were more or less IMMEDIATELY followed by commitments to a new school, were they not?
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
Nov 26, 2024, 1:07 PM
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georgia has had 3. are they shutting down their program also.
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Thats a ridiculous argument.
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Nov 28, 2024, 9:17 AM
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Georgia currently has the #1 class with 26 commitments.
Clemson is #27 with 14 commitments.
It’s not apples to oranges it’s a minnow to shark comparison right now.
Not to mention Kirby uses the Transfer Portal.
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Orange Elite [5204]
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BUT we just picked up an ELITE QB!
Nov 28, 2024, 9:12 AM
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He switched from Alabama! Oh wait, nevermind. Coastal Carolina.
I’m not sure how we turn this around. It’s gotten pathetic. I’m also afraid we’ll begin offering kids who have no right to be getting an offer from us.
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Re: 5 decommitments this year.
Nov 28, 2024, 9:34 AM
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Yea man. Do you follow college football or just Clemson? You might want to find a hobby where you can stay more informed.
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